First time watching Enterprise!

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by Merlanthe, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. Merlanthe

    Merlanthe Commander Red Shirt

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    Okay so i recently acquired the complete all 4 seasons of Enterprise on dvd. I've only ever seen a handful of episodes from the first season back when the show first premiered on tv (gosh it seems so long long ago) and a couple episodes that were on my borg/time travel/alternate reality fan collectives.

    So i wouldnt say i was a complete stranger to the series but apart from the aforementioned handful of episodes i have a lot of unseen material and am quite excited at the prospect of the many many epsiodes (entire seasons of episodes!) of unseen trek that i have yet to discover :)

    Im going to post my thoughts on each episode on this thread in case any one is interested to read them starting with my thoughts on the pilot Broken Bow tomorrow.
     
  2. teacake

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    I'll be happy to read along.. and I envy you all that Trek unseen!

    I love Broken Bow, a real kick ass pilot.
     
  3. jespah

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    W00t! I am here and I brought the clam dip.
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  4. teacake

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    I just made two cakes.

    They came out completely flat so I'm going to glue them together with frosting. Unlabeled flour ftw.

    Anyway.. I would rather have the clam dip. I haven't made a cake in at least 5 years but I found a bag of bananas in hiding and they needed to be used so I threw all the vaguely remembered ingredients that go into cakes in a bowl and whipped up these flat things.

    Maybe I'll glue them together with Nutella.

    :: dips a carrot into the clam dip ::

    We don't even have clam dip here, in fact we barely have clams.
     
  5. Shanndee

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    I'll read along as well!

    Maybe by the time you reach the end of season 2 I'll even watch along with you. I was trying to do a re-watch/first time watch of the series, but Hubby gave up before the end of season 2. I wasn't having fun watching alone [and its hard to get the TV to myself when he's home] so I stopped too.

    I was going to try to watch along with S/UF, but she moved through the series really fast! We'll see how this goes!

    Should I bring some spinach dip?
     
  6. teacake

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    Yes, bring spinach dip.

    Tell your hubby it all changes in Season 3.. or better yet just start him on that one!
     
  7. Merlanthe

    Merlanthe Commander Red Shirt

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    Clam dip? sounds nice but i will stick with my strawberry jelly mmm :)

    Shanndee that is a great avatar you have there i dont think you have to worry about me watching too fast as when i watch series i have a tendancy to watch a bunch of episodes in one sitting then have a gap of a week or two inbetween. Thought i should mention that now so that if i end up not posting anything for a week or more people wont worry that ive abandoned the series.
     
  8. Shanndee

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    Thanks Merlanthe! The only way I could like it more would be to have Damar in the shot as well...but, alas, I have not been able to find a decent shot of the 3 of them together. Sadness.

    Ok, I'll try to start watching with you when you get to the end of season 2.

    Teacake, I've tried to tell Hubby that season 3 changes all...he doesn't seem to believe me. He often counters with "is that code for 'but Jeffrey Combs is in it' "

    I guess he knows me too well!

    I'll work on convincing him that the last 2 seasons have more to offer than just Jeff Combs!
     
  9. teacake

    teacake Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Tell him about how..

    Hoshi sleeps with Archer and then murders him. Leave out the Mirror Universe part.
     
  10. R. Star

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    ^
    I'd call that a happy ending.
     
  11. teacake

    teacake Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Imagine if it happened in Season 1.

    :: fans self ::
     
  12. lurok

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    One watch thread ends; another begins. How cosmic is that? ;) Now I'll have to find something new and different to say.
     
  13. jespah

    jespah Taller than a Hobbit Moderator

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    Cosmic trippin', man!

    Nutella makes everything better, tc. Except for clam dip.

    I also offer homemade turkey soup with matzoh balls (the delicate parts of matzoh creatures, dontcha know).
     
  14. Merlanthe

    Merlanthe Commander Red Shirt

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    Well here are my thoughts on Broken Bow.

    I quite enjoyed this as pilots go its pretty solid storywise. I think the whole future guy trying to manipulate the past stuff adds an interesting twist to what would have been a fairly straightforward mission of returning an injured dignitary to his homeworld whilst avoiding bad guys.

    I really love the ship design. More so the interior and the technology which gives me a retro vibe for some reason. Maybe that’s cause it is pretty retro compared to the technbology in other trek series. I like that the crew have to share quarters which are small and cramped. Makes it seem more like an exploration vessel out there on the edge of known space. The only annoying thing about the ship and retro tech is the idea of hull plating instead of shields. The hull plating is the hull isn’t it? So when someone says that the hull plating is offline what that means is that there is a huge crack or hole in the hull and the air and stuff in that part of the ship is getting sucked out into space right? Casue that’s how I interpreted it

    I do really love the phase pistols and the quarantine room is a good idea it makes sense they should have one though I hope it isn’t just there for fan service even though Conner Trineer has a nice physique I think that whole heated conversation would have had more weight to it if they hadn’t been rubbing decontamination gel all over each others half naked bodies. Another bit of retro tech that I like is the transporter or rather the characters attitude towards it. So its finally been given the okay for transporting living organic matter but naturally no one wants to be the first to try it. Reminds me of Galaxy Quest when they test the never before used transporter on an alien pig beast.

    ‘It turned inside out…..and now it exploded!’

    Of course its fairly obvious form the general reluctance to try out the transporter that its gonna get used at some point probably for a last minute dramatic rescue :p

    That said there were a couple things that annoyed me. For a start Archer and to some extent Trip come of as kinda obnoxious and unreasonable in their prejudice against and distrust of Vulcans. Its not like the Vulcans physically restrained humanity form exploring space they just strongly advised against and the earth government chose to defer to the Vulcans judgement. Also why did they kill off the female suliban mere moments after she was introduced? She would have been a cool character to keep around it would have been interesting to have her backstory and motivations for working against her people more fully explored.

    Okay this one is gonna sound nitpicky but I have trouble with T’pol’s outfit and hairstyle. I don’t think it fits the era that the series is set in as its clearly based on the clothing and hairstyles favoured by female Vulcans in the later trek series e.g. later TNG, DS9 and VOY where they had short hair and favoured dark sombre colours. In TOS series and movies and early TNG Vulcan women favoured long hair and more brightly coloured clothing. Personally I found it horrifying how skinny she is in that catsuit makes her look like she’ll disappear if she turns sideways. I bet she had to be sewn into it and probably felt she couldn’t eat or drink during filming like poor Jeri Ryan. Given the way the top was designed they could very easily have made it a wrap around dress rather than a catsuit I think it would have looked better and the actress would have been able to breathe without worrying about splitting a seam.

    Anyhow those annoyances aside I felt that it was a pretty decent episode considering they had all those characters to introduce and future plotlines to set up :)
     
  15. lurok

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    "Polarize the hull plating!"
    Whatever that means; I'm almost certain it's been done in TrekTech. I always imagined it was running some kind of energy charge through the hull which made things bouncy-bouncy off. Could be wrong but not that bothered :)

    Now fashion; that's different. Poor old T'Pol's ca(rpe)tsuit being the first of many faux pas. :scream:
     
  16. F. King Daniel

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    "Polarizing the hull plating" basically means running an electric charge through the plates, which hardens their molecular... somethingorother... makes them stronger. While charged.

    I learned that on this site. It's NEVER explained on the show!
     
  17. R. Star

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    Enterprise went way to far with the primitive names for the same technologies the TOS/TNG era had.

    Phase cannons, polarize the hull plating, and what not. Even though they essentially did the exact same thing in the other shows, just not as well.
     
  18. teacake

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    Polarize the hull plating cracks me up. Seven syllables when a torpedo is coming right at you.

    "PLATES!!!" that's what should have been said when in an attack situation. You can save the shmancy stuff for when you're slowly making your way ithrough a potentially dangerous zone.
     
  19. R. Star

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    I always love in Trek in general, not just Enterprise, that the tactical officer always has to be TOLD to raise the shield/polarize the plates when they're under attack.

    I'd have just loved for Worf to snap back, "Oh it's a good thing you TOLD me to raise the shields, otherwise I was just going to let this Klingon ship continue blowing the crap out of us."
     
  20. Melakon

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    In every single series, approaching a planet for the first time, a captain always said "Standard orbit, [helmsman]." Rarely did a helm officer volunteer that they were initiating standard orbit, though it must have been part of normal approach procedure.