Home lighting.

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  1. trekkiedane

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    Beginning at the time I acquired my first soldering iron, I've been trying to control the lighting in my abode to suit my needs at any time.

    It was relatively simple to make your own dimmers (and A LOT cheaper than buying them (at that time anyway)) and coloured lamps (~bulps) have been around for, well almost, ever.

    It didn't really occur to me how important lighting was, to anyone but myself, until I read about it in Inge Eriksens SciFi: "The Paradise Machine" (1989) where one of the main characters had the good fortune to have her apartment lights installed by a lighting engineer she could not have afforded any more, at the time of the story, as he had become the favourite specialist of the ruling classes.


    Sure, both Inge and I are Danes and therefore live in a cold and dark forbidding place where good lighting is paramount: Candles are widely used every day around here, as are dimmers (well, they were back in the day before CFLs ruined it all!) and architect-designed lamps (google "PH-lamp" if you don't believe me :p ).

    Whatever, if you ever watched an interior-design show you know what I'm talking about.

    Recently I purchased some of Ikeas "Dioder"-lamps.

    I have installed one between the windows and the shades in my living room, giving the effect that light is coming from outside whenever I have the shades down and it's actually night.

    Here's the modern twist: As LEDs are storming into our homes as primary light source, so are all the properties of the LEDs i.e. the colours!

    Last night I had an AHA-moment when this simple trick was able to fool my mind into thinking it was daybreak when, in fact, it was just the colour, I'd set the lamp to, coming from beyond the shades.

    When I set the light to a different colour (say in the red part of the spectrum) it makes my home appear like a brothel from the outside though :lol:

    I'm curious: how do you light (the inside of) your home? - any tricks you'd like to share?
     
  2. An Officer

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    Wow! Those lights sound great! I think I would like to simulate dawn here in sunny Britain during the winter!

    I have standard energy saving lights at the ceilings... the colour is awful, and to top it off, someone recently told me they are toxic, but I've not looked it up yet...
     
  3. trekkiedane

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    It's not so much the amount of light as it is the colour of light coming from what appears to be outside (the other side of the blinds/curtains) I noticed.

    Older models (especially) of CFL lamps contain (trace amounts of) mercury. Don't smash them and you're fine :)
     
  4. scotpens

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    I use oil lamps that burn baby oil -- from real babies!

    MWAHAHAHA! :devil:
     
  5. trekkiedane

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    ^I hesitate to ask... What, then, do you use for outdoor illumination?
     
  6. Amaris

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    The lighting in our apartment is very poor. We have two table lamps (using 3 way bulbs) in the living room, and I have a floor lamp (using a 3 way bulb) in my room. The apartment itself has 2 overhead lights, one in the kitchen and one in the hallway, and that's it. At night, we get the equivalent of a late evening/early dusk. It sucks.

    In fairness, the apartment is 40 years old, and was built cheap even then.
     
  7. trekkiedane

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    Unfamiliar with the term, "3 way bulb"? -is that like in a car, a bulb that has three filaments for three different settings?
     
  8. Amaris

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    Yes. You can get them in 30/70/100 watts, and 50/100/150 watts.
     
  9. trekkiedane

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    Cool, like a dimmer with presets! I kinda like that idea!
     
  10. scotpens

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    Are three-way bulbs not available in your neck of the woods? They're quite common in America.

    I burn witches. :eek:
     
  11. trekkiedane

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    I've never even heard of that kind of bulb before* :eek:
    I'm guessing the downside (that once one of the filaments burn out the bulb becomes a lot less useful) made us not want them. But that is just a guess.

    ETA: Plus: you'd need specially made fittings and switches... very American solution... I think the most common European way to do something similar is to have three bulbs in a lamp -and three switches (or indeed; a four way switch).

    Maybe The English or the French or... are different though.


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    *And I come from a family of electricians and the like.
     
  12. Amaris

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    Yep, though I think they're a bit more trouble than they're worth. We generally lose the 150 watt filament rather quickly, and then we're not sure whether the lamp is actually off, or just on the 150 watt setting.

    Most of the lamps around here are made for 3 way bulbs. Quite honestly, I only use one setting (when it's not burned out), so it's a waste for me, but others may have different opinions.
     
  13. Mr. Laser Beam

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    There were a lot of dimmers in my house when I moved in, but I had them all removed. I never liked or used them. All the bulbs in this house are standard incandescent 60-watters. And I have the shades closed all the time, it is never very bright in here anyway, by choice.

    And no, I'm not paranoid (anymore :p ) about CFLs, I just know they can't be used in recessed lighting fixtures - CFLs generate too much heat for that - and I have a fair amount of fixtures like that, esp. in my basement. So while I wait for CFLs that *can* be used in recesses to be invented, I've got a decent stockpile of regular bulbs.
     
  14. trekkiedane

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    ^You sound like one of those people that just skipped the CFLs and -eventually- go directly from incandescents to LEDs :)

    I've never even had ANY 'bulb' higher than 100W* -and those I've only ever used for vintage effect lamps: like the ones that have a revolving inner thing that gives the effect that the Niagara Falls on the shade is actually running water.

    But, alas, bulbs over 75W are either illegal or being outphased atm.


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    *Except for very special lighting of course, but there I'm thinking of 1000W and such.
     
  15. Mr. Laser Beam

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    There are some things in my house that can take bulbs of 75 watts or higher, but also some things that can handle a maximum of 60 watts. So to make it easier, I just use 60W bulbs on everything. :shrug:
     
  16. trekkiedane

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    That is strange to hear (to me anyway) as I never had use of more than a 40W lamp -unless I had a dimmer attached.

    ETA:
    Say, do you live in the south? -In my experience people from lower latitudes tend to have higher wattages -or even CFL-tubes- for home lighting.
     
  17. RobertVA

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    Three way bulbs actually have two incandescent filaments in them. As you rotate the switch on the three way socket through its four positions 120 volts of electricity is sent through the low watt filament, the high watt filament and then through both filaments. Of course that fourth position is back to both filaments unpowered. Yes, if one of the filaments burns out you only enjoy an odd sequence of operation when the surviving filament is energized. If you don't have any three way replacement bulbs you can use a regular screw base incandescent or CFL in the three way socket as a substitute. Everything gets the full wave form at 120 volts 60 Hz whenever it's activated.

    Note that in the US household outlets and overhead lighting fixtures might supply voltages anywhere in the 115 to 120 volt range. Central air conditioners/heat pumps, electric ranges, electric water heaters, electric clothes driers and larger window air conditioners are usually supplied with twice the voltage supplied in the ordinary outlets.
     
  18. trekkiedane

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    In case anyone was wondering, here's what it looks like when I set the LEDs to cycle through the colours:

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    As you can see I don't get a lot of light from them in this configuration, but I do get an effect.
     
  19. scotpens

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    So you've never used a safety razor, then?

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  20. IndyJones

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    I just bought some Edison-style light bulbs for my place, and I *love* them. I hate a cool blue light, and these give off a great warm glow that I really enjoy.

    Here's a pic of what I'm talking about:

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