Return of the Narada and Red Matter in future Trek Films?

[M.A.C.O.]

So I just finished reading Volumes 1 & 2 of the IDW comics that feature the rebooted Star Trek series. My disappointment with the first 3 stories aside. the final story was the only one i found interesting. I won't spoil all the details here but it ends with Kirk and crew surrendering the last bit of red matter and a copy of the Narada schematics to the Romulans in exchange for their freedom.

Now I know there is chatter about THESE comics being canon to the film franchise. However do you think JJ will really bring the space octopus back in a later film? Or like Star Trek Countdown and Nero, this comic story is fanfiction by the writers they are selling for the sake of of having something to sell?

Given that the Narada and it's origins are not fully explained in the context of the film and only worked as an antagonist vehicle meant to look intimidating and provide a challenge to protagonist from a the general audience perspective. I don't see JJ reviving the ship or the red matter subplot.

 

[DonIago]

I don't see how bringing the Narada or Red Matter into a future Trek film would be a good idea.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Now I know there is chatter about THESE comics being canon to the film franchise.

No, Bob Orci refuted that about an hour after the interviewer pushed and begged him to say it.

However do you think JJ will really bring the space octopus back in a later film? Or like Star Trek Countdown and Nero, this comic story is fanfiction by the writers they are selling for the sake of of having something to sell?

Canon isn't a statement of worth, it's simply the body of work that prequels/sequels and tie-ins are supposed to follow.

They made the films and episodes for "the sake of something to sell" just as much as they did the comics and other tie-ins. It's buisness. Making money. Not some higher purpose to add to a holy canon of Trek.


I doubt we'll see Narada-type ships and Red Matter again outside of the nuTrek comics and Prime-Trek novels when they reach 2387. I'd hope the new movies have better things to to than be Star Trek XII: The Detailed Backstory of Red Matter and attack of the Narada II.

 

[RoJoHen]

Maybe Red Matter will be the new Genesis Device.

 

[C.E. Evans]

If there's ever a new Trek TV series, we might see Red Matter used again in another story or mentioned briefly in a throwaway line like Star Trek III's protomatter was in DS9 and VOY, but I doubt we'll ever see the Narada or a ship of her class again.

 

[Drago-Kazov]

Won't see it in a movie, they are finished with that storyline.

 

[Set Harth]

Spock Prime to nuRomulus: "Yeah, you guys should probably move."

 

[Mars]

Spock Prime to nuRomulus: "Yeah, you guys should probably move."

There are too many other stories to tell and too few movies to tell it with. These actors aren't getting any younger. So I don't see the Narada making a return visit, and I think red matter and black holes should be left in the past, and Scotty's technique of warp drive teleportation could make starships obsolete, I hope that is dropped and forgotten about. My main problem with the movie was that there were too many technological fixes rather than just clever thinking on the part of the characters. Having scotty do the FTL beaming opens up a can of worms dealing with the obsolescence of starships, if you can just beam anywhere in the galaxy.

 

[FarStrider]

. . . and Scotty's technique of warp drive teleportation could make starships obsolete, I hope that is dropped and forgotten about. My main problem with the movie was that there were too many technological fixes rather than just clever thinking on the part of the characters. Having scotty do the FTL beaming opens up a can of worms dealing with the obsolescence of starships, if you can just beam anywhere in the galaxy.

Did you watch Star Trek? "Trekhnobabble" is a term for a reason. . . clever thinking usually involved techno fixes. . .

And ctually, transwarp beaming does NOT make starships obsolete. . . Scotty got lucky in ST09 (which was part of the point of "Mr. Scott's wild ride" through the pipes). . . you really shouldn't beam into place you haven't been. . . what if the air is toxic? what if you beam into solid rock or a bulkhead? if you are reading the comics, the truth about tribbles actually addresses this issue. . .


~FS

 

[F. King Daniel]

Plus Trek had similar (and similarly dangerous) long-rage "subspace beaming" as early as TNG's "Bloodlines" - yet starships are still very much in use.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Subspace_transporter

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Subspace transporters are apparently a very popular and very dangerous hobby that dates back to at least the 22nd century (ENT "Daedalus") and is better known for vaporizing its passengers then sending them anywhere.

It'd be a bit like putting rockets on your bike with the intention of jumping over a canyon. A certified genius like Scotty would probably be able to pull it off on the first try, and possibly even the second try. But every time you do this you have a relatively high chance of being horribly killed and it remains mostly a rather impressive technostunt.

Kinda like jumping out of a shuttlecraft in orbital space and plummeting into the atmosphere in a pressure suit. Just another addition to the list of "things that Starfleet rarely does because they're really really scary."

 

[C.E. Evans]

Another reason why transwarp beaming won't make starships obsolete is that there are things starships can do that individual people on the ground can't.