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Season ONE OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

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I just can't believe how Picard, or anyone for that matter, didn't contemplate that this decision may have just turned the Ornaran's entire planet into a war zone.

It isn't his job to dictate societal change for the Onarans.
 
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I just can't believe how Picard, or anyone for that matter, didn't contemplate that this decision may have just turned the Ornaran's entire planet into a war zone.

It isn't his job to dictate societal change for the Onarans.
Isn't that what he's doing by cutting them off from the drug supply?
 
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Just watched "Symbiosis".

This has got to be one of Picard's biggest blunders. The exchange he has at the end where he states that the Ornarans will go through a tough period of withdraw is just so wrong. Picard doesn't consider what a planet wide drug shortage will do to a civilization, especially one where every person is addicted to the drug. Picard talks like the civilization is like a person who will experience withdraw and eventually overcome it. This isn't a person though. This is an entire planet full of people addicted to a substance that they'll readily die for. There isn't going to be a moment where the planet will one day lose their supply and everyone will just go through the withdraw process. There's going to be planet wide CHAOS. And what's worse? Picard willfully doesn't give the the Ornarans the coils so this drug shortage will happen.

I just can't believe how Picard, or anyone for that matter, didn't contemplate that this decision may have just turned the Ornaran's entire planet into a war zone.

Crusher: "I just hope it was the right one."
Picard: "And we may never know."

I just love it when Captains make that conclusion about the Prime Derective. We may never know, so let's pick the worst possible solution.

Well I'm sure Picard expected there would be some violence and chaos during the withdrawal process, but that still didn't change the fact that his hands were tied by the Prime Directive.

At least if you're going to follow the Directive to the letter. Personally I always thought TNG was way too rigid about the whole thing, and should have let Picard stretch the rules a lot more than he did.

After watching Kirk and company rush in and help people left and right, it just seemed odd to see the TNG crew suddenly being so hard-assed and inflexible about the whole thing.
 
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I just can't believe how Picard, or anyone for that matter, didn't contemplate that this decision may have just turned the Ornaran's entire planet into a war zone.

It isn't his job to dictate societal change for the Onarans.
Isn't that what he's doing by cutting them off from the drug supply?

But he wasn't cutting them off. They still had two working vessels and with the Brekians now knowing there bread and butter could evaporate, they will likely push the Onarans towards learning how to repair the technology.
 
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Moving on, I watched Heart of Glory yesterday, and while I enjoyed it, I'm really starting to see why Denise Crosby was unhappy. In this episode more than any I've seen so far, she had so little to do and barely spoke at all. At this stage in the show, Worf was still little more than a recurring guest star, but he got his own episode before Yar did. I have to assume though that she'd made her decision to leave by this point anyway.

Excluding Yar, this season has given each of the main cast their moment in the spotlight.

I think you may be suffering from Code of Honor-nesia, where all memories of that episode are blocked out (I suffer this too). While it is a horrible episode, it's Yar centric and episode 3 of the series.
 
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I think the way they had the characters situated in their roles on the ship, Worf and Yar were redundant.

-Chris
 
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Well I'm sure Picard expected there would be some violence and chaos during the withdrawal process, but that still didn't change the fact that his hands were tied by the Prime Directive.

If only his hands were as tied during Justice when the good white whitey people of planet white wanted to kill Wesley.
 
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Also, I have a new favourite actress in TNG. It's this extra from Coming of Age:

relvaviiskirtedpersonne.jpg


I need a time machine, stat.

Very nice! I don't remember her, but then I haven't seen that episode for years.
 
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It isn't his job to dictate societal change for the Onarans.
Isn't that what he's doing by cutting them off from the drug supply?

But he wasn't cutting them off. They still had two working vessels and with the Brekians now knowing there (sic) bread and butter could evaporate, they will likely push the Onarans towards learning how to repair the technology.

Agreed. Picard merely declined to give them the replacement parts. If he had given them the parts, that could potentially be seen as a PD violation. As it is, his decision not to give them the tech was perfectly justified by the circumstances.
 
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Just caught "Too Short a Season", another one that gets knocked. People mention the bad acting but, I don't know, Jameson didn't seem that bad. The makeup does not hold up well though but that's no fault of anyone.

Anyone else notice the scene where Riker follows Picard into the forward bridge turbolift to greet Jameson at the beginning of the epsiode and right as Picard enters the turbolift he appears to yawn or open his mouth wide? I remember seeing this years ago but it's really easy to see now in HD.

Another cool shot from Bowman in this episode was the shot right over Picard's shoulder as he exits the aft bridge turbolift and, a few minutes later, re-enters it. The camera is very active and not static like it often is for those types of shots.
 
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I think you may be suffering from Code of Honor-nesia, where all memories of that episode are blocked out (I suffer this too). While it is a horrible episode, it's Yar centric and episode 3 of the series.

It would seem so, even though I only watched it two weeks ago. I'm having a hard time remembering what she actually did in that episode. I think you might be confusing "Yar-centric" with "Yar had some lines". She threw a couple of guys around, then went missing from half the episode after being kidnapped, and then had the silly fight at the end. The best Yar episodes came after she died - Yesterday's Enterprise, Legacy, and Redemption II (even if Yar didn't even appear in some of those).

Also, I have a new favourite actress in TNG. It's this extra from Coming of Age:

relvaviiskirtedpersonne.jpg


I need a time machine, stat.

Very nice! I don't remember her, but then I haven't seen that episode for years.

Blink and you'll miss her. She's walking down a corridor, just before Wesley is tested by the rude alien. Not so much her 15 minutes of fame as her 15 frames!
 
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Also, I have a new favourite actress in TNG. It's this extra from Coming of Age:

relvaviiskirtedpersonne.jpg


I need a time machine, stat.

Blink and you'll miss her. She's walking down a corridor, just before Wesley is tested by the rude alien. Not so much her 15 minutes of fame as her 15 frames!

;) Personally, I've been noticing McFadden's photo double/stand-in, Lorine Mendell a lot more in HD. Her character is Lt. Diana Giddings.

dianagiddings2c2364.jpg
 
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;) Personally, I've been noticing McFadden's photo double/stand-in, Lorine Mendell a lot more in HD. Her character is Lt. Diana Giddings.
Yup, noticed her in almost every episode of season one. Most of the times she seems to enter or leave the main bridge turbolift in the background.

That girl from "Coming of Age" is a cutie, too, however. I'll have to look out for her the next time I watch that episode. :bolian:
 
Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread

Also, I have a new favourite actress in TNG. It's this extra from Coming of Age:

relvaviiskirtedpersonne.jpg


I need a time machine, stat.

Blink and you'll miss her. She's walking down a corridor, just before Wesley is tested by the rude alien. Not so much her 15 minutes of fame as her 15 frames!

;) Personally, I've been noticing McFadden's photo double/stand-in, Lorine Mendell a lot more in HD. Her character is Lt. Diana Giddings.

dianagiddings2c2364.jpg

Can't believe she was in so many episodes!
 
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Has anyone noticed, but during the opening credits, you can see that they actually put the name 'Enterprise' on the neck just below the torpedo launcher and just above the deflector dish. Just freeze the ship when the neck/deflector is the main thing on the screen and you can't miss it.
 
Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread

Has anyone noticed, but during the opening credits, you can see that they actually put the name 'Enterprise' on the neck just below the torpedo launcher and just above the deflector dish. Just freeze the ship when the neck/deflector is the main thing on the screen and you can't miss it.

It's always been there (part of the plans/design for the ship), it's just more readable in HD.
 
Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread

Anyone else notice the scene where Riker follows Picard into the forward bridge turbolift to greet Jameson at the beginning of the epsiode and right as Picard enters the turbolift he appears to yawn or open his mouth wide? I remember seeing this years ago but it's really easy to see now in HD.

Yeah, this is a clip in "Great TV Mistakes" show over here, one of the biggest laughs in it for me, actually.

The way it looks is that Picard is actually stunned that a turbolift arrived as he was walking towards the door.
(Never mind the ten thousand other times that has happened ;) )

Maybe Dr Pulaski was in there, wearing not much "You know you want me on your ship next year, Jean-Luc!" :rofl:
 
Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread

Has anyone noticed, but during the opening credits, you can see that they actually put the name 'Enterprise' on the neck just below the torpedo launcher and just above the deflector dish. Just freeze the ship when the neck/deflector is the main thing on the screen and you can't miss it.

Yeah, I've been able to notice that for many years. What you may find harder to see are all the other places the ship's name is written, like the inner side of the nacelle pylons, the shuttlebay entrance, and the section of the saucer that's exposed when the ship seperates. I love the level of detail Andrew Probert gave to the Enterprise-D. He seems to have thought of everything, including putting transporter emitters on the outside of the ship, and connections on the spine for deuterium refeuling.
 
Re: The OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Season 1 Discussion Thread

Has anyone noticed, but during the opening credits, you can see that they actually put the name 'Enterprise' on the neck just below the torpedo launcher and just above the deflector dish. Just freeze the ship when the neck/deflector is the main thing on the screen and you can't miss it.

It's always been there (part of the plans/design for the ship), it's just more readable in HD.

But in the SD it's just been a streak of black/shadow because of th generational loss; even on the DVD's when they are upconverted you can't even read the name.
 
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