Awesome stuff...
For someone with such an uneasy relationship with the English language, that's pretty good right there.
Not as good as "Varitek splitting the uprights," but close.
Chick-fil-A digging themselves a hole
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For someone with such an uneasy relationship with the English language, that's pretty good right there.
Not as good as "Varitek splitting the uprights," but close.
How is it sudden? People have been talking about Chick-Fil-A's anti-gay corporate mindset for years. This recent incident is just more out in the open than some of their other practices have been, and is therefore getting more attention.
This is a pity, because they have the best chicken sandwich going.
Actually, I'd given up eating there a while ago because of a previous flap along these lines.
That the organization is conservative has been obvious for as long as I've been eating there; they wear it on their sleeve (it's the only restaurant in this area that sells the Washington Times and only the Washington Times). Being conservative, however, does not automatically make people bigoted assholes. Sadly, it's clear that these folks are both.
Actually, I'd given up eating there a while ago because of a previous flap along these lines.
That the organization is conservative has been obvious for as long as I've been eating there; they wear it on their sleeve (it's the only restaurant in this area that sells the Washington Times and only the Washington Times). Being conservative, however, does not automatically make people bigoted assholes. Sadly, it's clear that these folks are both.
Awesome stuff...
I don't mind this Boston one (it's just words), but Chicago is threatening to deny Chick-fil-A a permit, which would be a First Amendment violation. My view is to be vocal, to criticize them, and to boycott them. Hopefully, the backlash will at least prompt them to soften their view. Given the owner's personal beliefs, I don't expect them to advocate for same sex marriage. But it would be great if they became agnostic on the issue. More accurately, it would be great if he only expressed his personal opinion and didn't actively donate to anti-gay marriage causes. That strikes me as a middle ground to keep most people content.
This is disingenuous.
When I buy something from them, they spend a fraction of that money furthering the legal suppression of the rights of people close to me whom I care about.
I'll therefore give them no more of my money.
Why pretend that you don't understand that this is right?
Pffft. Tuberculosis is older and has survived worse.
I've never been much of a fan of Chick-fil-A or their food to begin with, so steering clear of the company because of this awful discriminatory behavior won't be a problem for me. All of this just further reinforces the lackluster view I had of them to begin with. Companies like this are going to have to grow a pair, grow the hell up and enter the 21st century if they're going to have any hope of competing and surviving in a society that's growing more tolerant all the time, even if progress often seems slow.
Besides, even if Chick-fil-A weren't acting like bigoted knuckle draggers regarding the gay community and same-sex relationships, have you tasted their chicken salad sandwiches? America ought to boycott the company for that reason alone.
Shit tastes like someone mixed vinegar with bellybutton lint and spoiled sandwich meat.
Besides, even if Chick-fil-A weren't acting like bigoted knuckle draggers regarding the gay community and same-sex relationships, have you tasted their chicken salad sandwiches? America ought to boycott the company for that reason alone.
Shit tastes like someone mixed vinegar with bellybutton lint and spoiled sandwich meat.
A quick Google Search pulls up tons of websites with recipes for Chick-Fil-A chicken. The nice thing about this is, aside from not having to support an organization you don't agree with, you can tweak the recipe as you see fit.
I'm getting tired of the whole "First Amendment" argument. Yes, it does apply in the cases of the government refusing to give them permits, but that's not what I'm talking about. Anytime a member of the public complains about this, someone immediately pops-up and argues that Chick-Fil-A is just expressing their Free Speech Rights.
That always seems to imply that people have the right to express their opinions, but others do not have the right to express the opposing viewpoint. Boycotting Chick-Fil-A is an expression of free speech as much as Dan Cathy saying he is "guilty as charged" of being in favor of supporting "traditional marriage" (ie one man and one woman) or people going there on "Chick-Fil-A" day.
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We have a little IGA store a few blocks away that sells chicken sandwiches that taste just like Chick-Fil-A's, and they're half the price. Now if only they would sell waffle fries, and sugar free lemonade, I'd be all set.
Yep.
One's right to express an opinion is protected and should be respected.
It's not necessary to respect the content of the opinion itself, or to show the speaker unearned respect for expressing it.
If one can't stand the heat, one should shut the fuck up.
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I see. So do you honestly think that everyone who eats at a Chick-Fil-A is a bigot?
FWIW, the exactly two times I've eaten at one (once in Atlanta proper, the other at Turner Field), I didn't know about any of this. This thread is the first I've learned of it.
But don't worry, since there are no Chick-Fil-A's around where I live, I won't be going to one in the foreseeable future. (I honestly don't know if I would go, knowing what I know now. I have always been wary of boycotts because I doubt they have an impact.)
Probably not, since he didn't say anything like that.
OTOH, here's an interesting wrinkle:
Chicago Chick-fil-A owner wants to talk with Emanuel
Rahm would be smart to meet with her and show her respect. These people are franchisees, after all. If the Cathys give her heat for taking public stands like this - well, that's another nail in their coffin. Other franchisees who feel similarly (or recognize the business value of behaving well) ought to be encouraged to follow through. Their contributions to the community will more directly offset the effectiveness of the corporation's political donations than a boycott probably will.
I assume you have no clue how land development and municipal approvals work if you are naive enough to make a comments like that.
I've seen my clients have to scratch a few backs to get the town to sign off on their projects plenty of times.
They hold the cards and you gotta play by their rules.
Holy straw man, MLB! How is that remotely in the realm of what I said?
No, I was referring to your rather dismissive attitude. There's no shame in not knowing the other facts about the company, but when confronted with the CEO's remarks, the only comment you could manage was essentially "Who cares? I like their chicken." You said it gleefully with an emoticon. You couldn't even muster a more low key "I disagree with his stance, but that's not enough to make me boycott their restaurants." I'm willing to bet you'd be genuinely more upset if the founder of Chick-Fil-A insulted the Yankees or baseball rather than an entire group of people.
No, I'm not saying you're a bigot for still eating there, but your nonchalance about this is rather off-putting. At least give the subject half a second of thought before responding.
Yeah, my university student center had one of those mini-Chick-fil-A's to go. I got quite sick of them (along with Quiznos, the other main source of food*). So I have no qualms with not going there, but, since I'm not changing my routine, it's not like I can call it a boycott.
* There also was a Taco Bell, which I oddly never got sick of. Then they decided to replace it with a place that served $7 Burgers. That annoyed me.
Well, it was all I was talking about. I agree completely that a boycott is not a bad idea. It's only when a city is doing it that I get concerned.
I assume you have no idea how First Amendment jurisprudence works. I don't need to be a building contractor to know the significance of Constitutional Law.
Except when those rules involve viewpoint discrimination. If the rules were viewpoint neutral, you would otherwise be correct. In fact, the burden of proving intentional viewpoint discrimination is on those who are seeking the permit so, generally speaking, any facially valid reason would be enough to deny a permit (it's the same rule for racial discrimination, btw). However, when the political actors with the discretionary authority to approve permits state their reason for denying a permit has to do with the views expressed, it becomes far easier to prove intentional viewpoint discrimination. If those people had not said anything, on the other hand, there would be no proven first amendment violation.
He didn't say that. And your attitude is appalling. Do some research about this company's history, and then see how good the sandwiches taste. It's not just his own opinion. His COMPANY actively gives money to HATE groups like the American Family Association. You know, the one Bryan Fischer is from- the guy who has been blaming the Aurora tragedy on liberals, gays, and evolution? They have a history of bigotry against blacks and Jews as well as gays. So if you proudly eat there (general you here), then you may not be a bigot, but your money is going to bigots. And if you're okay with that, I feel bad for you.
And boycotts don't have an impact? Tell that to Rosa Parks.
What a queer name. Is this some East Coast-based corporation?
^South.
Yeah, it was chosen after the first name idea..."Poultry-Palooza"...tested badly.
And don't even ask about "Sal-Meat-Nella."
And don't even ask about "Sal-Meat-Nella."
I've long been appalled by the bigotry they associate with, but I'm appalled by everyone in this thread who doesn't think that their Jesus chicken tastes like a sandwich from heaven. Those with poor taste have had their names logged for future lack of respect! 
I'm going to buy myself frozen chicken sandwiches from target today to console myself.
I'm going to buy myself frozen chicken sandwiches from target today to console myself.
The best chicken sandwiches around come from the Kroger deli section. Their "Grab-n-Go" Tuscan Chicken makes anything fast food joints offer pale in comparison and kneel in respect, and some of their other sandwiches containing chicken are just mesmerizingly awesome. The choices of cheeses and vegetables and the thickness of the meat they use are just superb.
They're not huge...but you more than get your money's worth.
They're not huge...but you more than get your money's worth.
