Katie Holmes got tired of Scientology?
- Thread starter Gil T.Azell
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Still peanuts compared to the mass murders perpetuated by Christianity and Islam. Shit the Vatican during the period of the Renaissance probably murdered and tortured more people in a year than Scientology has since its inception.
Not to diminish her story , but that's one death due to the withholding of medical care. By that measure, it's immensely more dangerous to be a child of Jehovah's Witnesses than an adult Scientologist, and JW is just a tiny piece of traditional monotheism.
Jehovah's Witnesses is a fucking dangerous cult as well.
Is there such a church? How do I sign up?
"Did I do that?"
Anyway, here's an interesting read posted on Yahoo, about an email supposedly sent by the church's "Office of Special Affairs"...
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/church-scientology-asks-followers-censor-comments-160104800.html
"The message instructs followers to visit media sites, including Microsoft, Google or any other that requires users to agree to a code of conduct that prohibits comments that threaten, defame or degrade any group or individuals.
Followers should hunt for any comments about the Cruise-Holmes divorce, click the "Report" tag, and report the comments as violations of the site's code of conduct, the email instructs:
You can write something like "Violate Your Code of Conduct". 'defames or degrades a group for any reason including on the basis of religion."
Seems perfectly reasonable and rational to me....
Comparisons like these are always pointless. Catholics nowadays are child-molesting mass murderers, if one wants to see it that way. There are thousands of documented cases. Don't mix up the institution with the acts of individuals and individual groups, that's always meaningless. In other words, Star Trek doesn't suck just because "Spock's Brain" was the greatest turd ever produced.
Why not? What makes a "new" religion less valid than an "old" one? If I remember right, Christian church started with a tiny group of people following a poor carpenter who critized an "old" religion.
And that the church has an "Office of Special Affairs" is another red flag. Their organizational chart probably lists the office right above the intelligence and interrogation section and the bio-weapons division.
A local Pentecostal preacher down the road set fire to his church during a dispute with part of his congregation. Another Pentecostal (part-time) preacher had both his part=time and full-time jobs terminated when he was arrested for incest. A few years ago a clergyman up near Charleston beat his wife to death at Babcock (a state park.) My uncles by marriage, a chaplain, was revealed finally after his death to have beat his wife, my father's sister.
Yes, I do think that religion is BS and never helps its members, even, or perhaps especially, the professionals, lead moral lives.
The highly esteemed Rick Warren (the Purpose Driven Life salesman) was exposed as an associate of clergymen in Uganda calling for the death penalty for homsexuality. The late but unlamented Jerry Falwell was associated with CAUSA, an umbrella antiCommunist front group, some of whose members operated death squads. The number of Christian clergymen who justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestine because "GOD" gave the land to a bunch of immigrants from the US and Russia is too numerous to count. Or, if you want to think about the role of a church in really massive bloodletting, think about this:http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1252/is_n10_v124/ai_19962921/
So far as Scientology's responsibility for Lisa McPherson's death goes, up thread I advocated that those religious groups who offered psychotherapy should be held accountable for their actions, regardless of the religious label. As I pointed out then, that would be harsh but well-deserved justice for such outfits as Focus on the Family. Only religious bigotry keeps their victims from being called victims. Scientology shouldn't get a free pass but singling them out is part of giving other a free pass.
Um, no. Nothing like Scientology. I speak from inside knowledge.
In many ways Scientology sounds like an ingenius refinement of communism. Instead of the KGB having to grill you about your capitalist tendencies and suspicious associations (while the state takes most all of your money in perpetuity), scientology members spend weeks or months hooked to a lie detector willing spilling their most intimate secrets, brainwashed into being a tool, and then living under nearly constant surveillance. Leaving the church is as difficult as shaking KGB handlers, making it to a US embassy, and defecting.
gt, I rarely agree with anything you say, but I concede that's a perceptive observation. If someone had told the Russians that confession to the State was good for their soul, they would have lined up to do it... and those who didn't, why, they are the ones you take away.
Were you baptised? I work with several JWs and they are good guys, but that doesn't change my opinion of their religion.
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