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(2011)-2012 NBA Season

My goodness, the silence. We have that many Miami Heat fans here? :evil:

That, gblews, is what I mean by resilient. :) Everybody will crow about Durant. The player that deserves the kudos most is Thabo Sefalosha. I don't care if James got 30, Thabo shut his ass down in the fourth quarter. Durant is the soldier, but Thabo is the spark.

Russell didn't suck too much. You might say he finished a tad strong. :cool: They all sucked during the 1st half. How many damn free throws did they miss? They never miss that many. Never. It was like watching them play while running in molasses. God, Harden must have been up all night having sex because his legs were worthless. I don't know what the hell was the matter with him. Just as well, his ineffectiveness brought Thabo back into the game. All for the best. :)
 
My goodness, the silence. We have that many Miami Heat fans here? :evil:

That, gblews, is what I mean by resilient. :) Everybody will crow about Durant.
Heh, heh, speaking of crowing. :vulcan:

Anyway, in the 2-3-2, unlike in the 22111, the team with HCA has to win both of the first two in order to stay in control of the series. If the Thunder does that on Thursday, they might be on their way. In any case they would be in good shape. But if they lose, then it's a series, one which might not make it back to OKC, in a bad way, for the Thunder.

Greg
 
You have to wonder how hurt Wade is... The Heat will not win a track meet against the Thunder, and Bosh needs to find his mid-range game (and start) for them to have any chance. I just think OKC is too deep and poised even at this young of an age for Miami to have any chance...
 
The Heat has a height problem too, something they've had all season. They got killed on their defensive boards. They are going to have to do a better job of boxing out and being aggressive on the defensive boards.

We'll see how or if, they adjust.
 
Wade had his knee drained again before the series. It's tender though he claims otherwise. Makes one wonder why Spoelstra kept Bosh coming off the bench in favor of Battier. Perhaps he thought Bosh was more effective that way, but it's clear that Wade cannot keep up in a track meet with the Thunder for 48 minutes. This is not something Scott Brooks hasn't noticed. He'll continue to have Sefalosha out there as much as possible to make LeBron nuts and have Westbrook keep running right at Wade.
 
They showed clips from The Flu Game with Michael Jordan during game 1 yesterday.

Damn, Jordan really was a basketball god wasn't he?:rommie:
 
I missed the first half so I didn't see the defensive assignments for the Heat to start the game, but having Wade guard Durant was a huge problem. Can't remember who Battier was checking in the second half (Westbrook, perhaps) but he seems better suited to guarding Durant with his size and defensive skill. Wade, if he is hurt especially, should be on Sephalogia (or however it's spelled), or even Harden when he's in with Wade.

The Heat needs to spread the floor better in order to get LeBron and Wade more room in the lane and for rebounding position. With their lack of size they need to force the OKC big men as far away from the basket as possible.

Don't know what the answer is on the defensive boards for the Heat considering their lack of size. Probably should start though with keeping Westbrook and Durant out of the lane which should force more outside shots which are harder for the offensive team to rebound after misses.

I do expect the Heat to play better in game 2, but they can't just play better. They will need a win.
 
I guess I'm not understanding your line of reasoning. Why would you want a hobbled Wade guarding Sefalosha of all people? Thabo is quick. Thabo gave Kobe Bryant and Tony Parker fits with his quickness and length. Thabo missing those layups was not typical for him. He's a better shooter than that.
 
I guess I'm not understanding your line of reasoning. Why would you want a hobbled Wade guarding Sefalosha of all people? Thabo is quick. Thabo gave Kobe Bryant and Tony Parker fits with his quickness and length. Thabo missing those layups was not typical for him. He's a better shooter than that.
He's not a scorer. Not to say he can't score, but his thing is defense. He is not the No. 1, or 2, backcourt option. He is not as big as Durant. He is not the player that Durant is. Same goes for Westbrook (by comparison). Given the choice between Durant, Westbrook, and Sefalosha, you play the percentages and put him on the lesser of the 3.

Put Battier on Durant or LeBron except I think he is guarding Ibaka. This is the difficulty of not starting Bosh who would take either Ibaka or Perkins. I'd put him on Ibaka because Perkins won't hurt you scoring.

Wade may not be 100% but he did not in any way look "hobbled' to me. Besides, if it's true he just had his knee drained, he should be better physically for game 2. But you still take no chances with him on defense and leave him on Thabo.
 
Well, that was certainly unsatisfying. I'm sure I'll hear copious whining from my fellow Thunder fans about that last non call on LeBron when he hammered our shooter. I don't give a shit and I don't want to hear it from them. Yes, it damn well should have been a foul on LeBron and it could have swung the game. It doesn't matter.

I don't care that Miami started Bosh. I don't care that it made commendable defensive adjustments and had a brilliant effort. I don't care that they had excellent ball movement and made the Thunder look very bad. I accept that the Thunder played like shit. What I cannot accept is that the Thunder--even after playing like a dog turd on a 105 degree sidewalk all night--couldn't hit their freethrows and the points missed were the difference. There is ZERO excuse to miss a shot where you're not being defended. ZERO. That's not Miami's fault. That's the Thunder's fault, 100 percent. You make your free throws, you're not in a position where a non call can make a difference at the end of the game. That is a crying shame and it may have swung the tide against them. Scott Brooks may look like a pasty dough boy, but he's going to rip them a new one for that, make no mistake. Now they've dug a hole and have to play three in Miami.

There's just no excuse. They have no one to blame but themselves. I love my team to death but I won't make bullshit excuses for them. Hopefully they'll learn from it and get angry enough to win on the road. They have no choice if they want this series to come back to Oklahoma City. What a vile thought to be the team that finally gave LeBron his ring and rewarded the Heat for the lousy way they put that team together.
 
No lie, Borgminister. They'll be done before they know what hits them. Including game one of this series, they've come from double digit deficits successfully a combination (regular and post season) of 14 times this season. They're so good they've gotten accustomed to the fact that they can take their time, not panic, and figure it out during the game. They can't get away with that anymore.

They've had too much good fortune so soon that they were do for a reality slap sooner or later. The reality is that Bosh is healthy now. Yes, it's a bitch that they're the only team that has to face him healthy but if they want a championship that's the reality they have to deal with and overcome. Can they do it? Yes. I'm convinced they can take at least one in Miami. The Thunder were awfully proficient at adjusting after losses this year. They're coachable and they learn quickly. I'm hoping that trend holds true. Durant was fuming in the post game press conference. Did you see him? The reporter was bound and determined to get him to whine that LeBron hacked him on the last shot and he wouldn't take the bait. "No, I MISSED THE SHOT." Leave me alone, asshole. I don't want to get fined.

Good. I hope that's a nice, healthy steady anger that simmers and festers until Sunday and they all carry it. 4 point loss. 5 missed free throws. They never missed that many during the regular season. Never. Free throws. They couldn't make their free throws and it may cost them a championship. I hope Brooks hammers that into their heads over and over and over. With all their lousy play, they still put themselves into a position to win.....if only they could make the shots when no one is defending them. Inexcusable. :thumbdown:
 
Well, look, it's not about "getting fined", it's that no-calls at the end of close games are historically common. Durant is probably enough of a student of the game to realize that, and knows that that particular moment wasn't what lost the game.

Yes, it is too bad the refs bailed out LeBron and the ill-advised 3 pointer that he took with time running winding down, but that's the way it is. I'd still want the ball in Wade's hands at the end of games rather than LeBron's, but anyway.

Also, Westbrook simply took too many shots--26 to hit 10? The guy should have a double-double in scoring and assists every single game. And your savior Harden just gets 11 shots even though he hit 7?

Maturity. Do they have enough of it?

There's still some growing up to do; it'll be interesting to see if they can take that step in Miami.
 
I don't know what's up with Harden. His presence has been sorely missed in this series so far. He is only 22 years old until August. They're all just on the cusp of greatness. I'm hoping that it doesn't elude them by a whisker. Second chances at championships are not guaranteed, no matter how much talent you have. If Miami played in the West, they might not have made it. As for Russell, what makes him great and explosive is also what's most exasperating about him. They're an eclectic mix, to say the very least.

I take it you saw the post game. Durant was bristling. He can usually cover, but it came to the surface this time. Hopefully that serves him well.
 
Yeah, he was pissed. But that only means that he has to not just 'let the game come to him', but 'bring the game to himself', i.e., score more earlier, and aggressively in the paint--make the refs call fouls.
 
As Pat Riley once said, "a playoff series doesn't start until the home team loses". We now have a series.

The Thunder now must win not just a game in Miami, specifically, they MUST win either game 3 or 4. They're fully capable of doing that.

The 2-3-2 is a weird format. I still haven't quite figured out it's full impact. It appears to put an added burden on both teams. Now, Miami, in order to take full advantage of HCA, has to win 3 (well actually 4 gams) in a row. How's that going to happen against a team against whom, they are relatively evenly matched? If they don't do that, they are faced with having to return to OKC and win another one. Not impossible, but in the 22111 HCA is not nearly so hard to hang onto.
Well, that was certainly unsatisfying. I'm sure I'll hear copious whining from my fellow Thunder fans about that last non call on LeBron when he hammered our shooter. I don't give a shit and I don't want to hear it from them. Yes, it damn well should have been a foul on LeBron and it could have swung the game. It doesn't matter.
Your position re: not complaining aout the refs is comendable. It is a position I wholeheartedly embrace...so why even bring it up. The calls even out over the course of the series, so why even talk about them?
There's just no excuse. They have no one to blame but themselves. I love my team to death but I won't make bullshit excuses for them. Hopefully they'll learn from it and get angry enough to win on the road. They have no choice if they want this series to come back to Oklahoma City. What a vile thought to be the team that finally gave LeBron his ring and rewarded the Heat for the lousy way they put that team together.
Dorian, you see everything from your team's standpoint. Understandable, still do it myself sometimes. But you aren't giving the Heat proper credit.

If the Heat had played the same way in game 2 that they played in game 1, the missed free throws would not have mattered. OKC probably still would have won. The fact is, that the Heat played a lot better especially down the stretch -- especially defensively while continuing to score. Bosh, in particular, made a big difference along with the "hobbled" DWade.
Well, look, it's not about "getting fined", it's that no-calls at the end of close games are historically common. Durant is probably enough of a student of the game to realize that, and knows that that particular moment wasn't what lost the game.
Agree.
Also, Westbrook simply took too many shots--26 to hit 10? The guy should have a double-double in scoring and assists every single game. And your savior Harden just gets 11 shots even though he hit 7?
I didn't see the first half so I don't know how he shot, but I saw him take only 1 (what I would call) bad shot in the second half. I think it was a 3 too early in the shot clock. Most of Westbrook's shots in the second half were right at the rim or wide open from mid-range. He should take those shots even if he misses some. If I'm Scottie Brooks, I tell him to keep on keepin' on. Westbrook is one hellava player. He might have more upside than Durant (I think KD nees to work on getting to the rim from any spot on the court. He settles for the J too often, IMO) If Westbrook can become a "knock down" shooter from 20 and beyond, I'm predicting first ballot HOF. He gets to the rim like Kobe used to when he was a kid, meaning -- any time he wants.
I don't know what's up with Harden.
I think what happend was that Miami made an adjustment and D'd him up proper in the second half. Harden is used to being able to get into the lane almost as easily as Westbrook, but the Heat defense got to him -- and led him into 2 (I think) offensive fouls in addition to turning him backonce he crossed the free throw line.

Finally, I know Scottie Brooks keeps saying that the Thunder can, and even like, to play small and no doubt this is true. But the Heat play small out of neccessity and have done it this way all season. It would seem, maybe in a "small" way, that the Thunder are playing Miami's game. I think this situation slightly favors the Heat.
 
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I got no dog in the fight, but what an entertaining set of playoffs so far.

I wonder what the folks in Seattle are thinking right now, with the former Sonics in the Finals. It seemed like an ugly divorce.
 
Phil Jackson; Heat fan? It has to do with the fact that Phil has let it be known that he is interested in coaching again, but only for the right team.

This Bleacher Report article speculates that if OKC doesn't win the championship this season and of OKC thinks he's interested, they might ease Scott Brooks out for the best coach in NBA history.

People are speculating that the Heat might want hom too, but Phil and Riley have some bad history and Miami is just as far from Montana as Orlando is.

I think the Clippers or the Nuggets or Trailblazers are better candidates.

http://tinyurl.com/7lxp6ul
 
Second best coach in history (and I'm not a fan of the best, but I want to give Red Auerbach credit where credit is due).
 
The Bleacher Report is full of shit. Sam Presti and Clay Bennett are not going to get rid of Scott Brooks. :rolleyes: The Bleacher Report is usually full of shit.
 
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