Snow White and the Huntsman: Grade and Discuss, Sequel, DVD, ect.
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Though I haven't seen the film, I think I may have an answer for why Ravenna didn't kill Snow White. My speculation is based on a historical figure - Elizabeth Bathory.
Elizabeth Bathory (1560-1614) was obsessed with being young, and, in her obsession, she believed that bathing in the blood of virgins would keep her healthy and living longer. This countess and her servants killed hundreds of peasant girls. When she ran out of peasant girls, she crossed the line that was unacceptable in her era - she killed a noble woman. This was her downfall, and she and her servants were captured and tried. She was confined to a room in a castle for the reminder of her life, and her servants were killed.
Applying this history to the film, I would say that Ravenna knew that killing Snow White would arouse the aristocracy to turn against her.
For more on Elizabeth Bathory, see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Báthory
Elizabeth Bathory (1560-1614) was obsessed with being young, and, in her obsession, she believed that bathing in the blood of virgins would keep her healthy and living longer. This countess and her servants killed hundreds of peasant girls. When she ran out of peasant girls, she crossed the line that was unacceptable in her era - she killed a noble woman. This was her downfall, and she and her servants were captured and tried. She was confined to a room in a castle for the reminder of her life, and her servants were killed.
Applying this history to the film, I would say that Ravenna knew that killing Snow White would arouse the aristocracy to turn against her.
For more on Elizabeth Bathory, see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Báthory
She already killed the King in their wedding bed. I doubt killing the princess would cause any more grief.
I've not seen the movie but I would assume that the Queen wouldn't have to kill SW until she reached the age of maturity and her being "fairest" was more clear.
I admit I only vaguely knew of this person but appreciated the refresher.
However, as far as the movie goes Ravenna killed the king in bed on his wedding night.
Also, the Duke and his son William(the Prince) already thought SW was dead. They were already engaged in an uprising. So killing SW at any earlier point would've been moot, they thought she was dead already.
When she first took over the kingdom the Mirror told Ravenna that Snow White would eventually grow to rival her as fairest in all the land, and that once that happened if she consumed Snow White's heart she would gain immortality. That's why she kept her alive and imprisoned her in the tower. It wasn't until the film jumped ahead several years and young Snow White grew into Kristen Stoneface that the Mirror told Ravenna the time to sacrifice Snow White had come because she was now the fairest of them all. That was when Snow White escaped the tower and turned into Joan of Arc all of a sudden.
I thought the mirror just said that "another is destined to surpass you" not anything specific to SW. Can anyone else help cause I'm not going to see it again to satisfy my curiosity.
once was enough.
Kristen won best kiss for twilight at the MTV movie awards, Rob wasn't there to accept it with her and reinact the kiss... She asked for Chriss "My huntsman, where's my huntsman?" and then for Charlize... "C'mon do a sister a solid!"
They both sayed seated.
Was Kristin the only one who didn't know that Snowwhite and the Huntsman was shit?
Kristen won best kiss for twilight at the MTV movie awards, Rob wasn't there to accept it with her and reinact the kiss... She asked for Chriss "My huntsman, where's my huntsman?" and then for Charlize... "C'mon do a sister a solid!"
They both sayed seated.
Was Kristin the only one who didn't know that Snowwhite and the Huntsman was shit?
I enjoyed seeing a more grounded Prince of Thieves-style take on Snow White. I give it an A- for that. But yeah, it did feel overlong at times.
Kristen Stewart: Very attractive. I heard she was miscast, but I enjoyed her in the role. Pretty enough to be Snow White, but still believable as a girl who's been locked away and left to rot. I suppose you could say that she lacked charisma, but that didn't stand out for me as glaringly problematic.
Charlize Theron: Sometimes she was very good and convincing as an evil old hag and other times her performance was too over the top.
Chris Hemsworth: He plays these noble warrior types very well. Reminds me a bit of Heath Ledger too.
The Dwarves: Someone said that they didn't get real dwarves and I was disappointed when I heard that. Then they show up in the movie and I'm like... Ya there's dwarves!
I even noticed that one looked like Ian McShane and another looked like Bob Hoskins. Then lo and behold, their names appeared in the credits.
The Ending: Looks like they were trying to set this up for a sequel. There was a bit of a love triangle that was left dangling.
Kristen Stewart: Very attractive. I heard she was miscast, but I enjoyed her in the role. Pretty enough to be Snow White, but still believable as a girl who's been locked away and left to rot. I suppose you could say that she lacked charisma, but that didn't stand out for me as glaringly problematic.
Charlize Theron: Sometimes she was very good and convincing as an evil old hag and other times her performance was too over the top.
Chris Hemsworth: He plays these noble warrior types very well. Reminds me a bit of Heath Ledger too.
The Dwarves: Someone said that they didn't get real dwarves and I was disappointed when I heard that. Then they show up in the movie and I'm like... Ya there's dwarves!
I even noticed that one looked like Ian McShane and another looked like Bob Hoskins. Then lo and behold, their names appeared in the credits.The Ending: Looks like they were trying to set this up for a sequel. There was a bit of a love triangle that was left dangling.
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I just think she's an awful actress. I'm not sure what reaction they were hoping for with her big rally the troops speech, but I doubt it was raucous laughter.
Not that Charlize Theron lit up the screen with an Oscar-worthy performance or anything, but she's usually pretty good. Here she spent most of the time showing how evil she truly was by screaming everything at the top of her lungs. That probably was a director's decision though or in the script, so it may not have been her fault.
I don't think she's anything grand myself, but I thought she worked fine for this role. Certainly not terrible, though obviously mileage varies. Subdued, a bit overwhelmed after being locked away for years. Playing to her "strengths" maybe? 
I actually liked that her big "rally the troops" speech wasn't very good, even if it was because Stewart couldn't sell it (though really, even aside from her delivery it was kinda... ehh...). Played well with the whole "she's subconsciously healing the world and influencing everything and everyone around her" - even with a terrible speech because she's a 20-year old girl with no experience making speeches or leading armies, they'll still follow her. Rationalizing maybe, but I wish they'd explored that idea more than just having the old dwarf saying "Ooh, don't we all feel better?", especially since the dark forest and sanctuary seem to be... genius loci, for lack of a better word.
Good point about Theron. Though really, I think my biggest complaint is that despite it being a 2 hour+ movie I feel like there's a loooot missing.
I actually liked that her big "rally the troops" speech wasn't very good, even if it was because Stewart couldn't sell it (though really, even aside from her delivery it was kinda... ehh...). Played well with the whole "she's subconsciously healing the world and influencing everything and everyone around her" - even with a terrible speech because she's a 20-year old girl with no experience making speeches or leading armies, they'll still follow her. Rationalizing maybe, but I wish they'd explored that idea more than just having the old dwarf saying "Ooh, don't we all feel better?", especially since the dark forest and sanctuary seem to be... genius loci, for lack of a better word.
Good point about Theron. Though really, I think my biggest complaint is that despite it being a 2 hour+ movie I feel like there's a loooot missing.
I read that Lily Collins, who plays Snow White in Mirror, Mirror, auditioned for this movie and lost to Stewart.
I liked the movie, I thought it was a well put together movie I don't quite get all the hate for Kristen Stewart, I thought she was OK as Snow White in this movie. I loved the dwarves the visual effects for the dwarves were better IMO than the Hobbits in the LOTR movies. And I thought that Chris Hemsworth was excellent as the huntsman, he was better in this movie than he was in The Avengers to me.
^ I agree, the dwarf effects were very impressive. There was never a point where they didn't seem completely believable.
After the alien abortion that was Prometheus, I was greatly surprised by how enjoyable I found this movie. I really needed a good movie experience and this delivered. It reminded me of Willow and The Never Ending Story.
I can't stand Stewart in the Twilight films, but I quite enjoyed her in this. He accent was even good, to my admittedly American ears. She's very pretty and I didn't find myself wanting to strangler her for her acting, which is my usual reaction. She has crazy-beautiful eyes. And while I admit, Charlize is like a 12, and Kristen is an 8, I think the idea was that she was the fairest, because her inner beauty magnified her outer beauty.
The costume design, set design and world building were all top notch. It wasn't just simply another generic medieval mudhole. The troll rocked, the ebon-shard warriors were cool, the fairy sanctuary was great, the dwarves all looked believable. I will say I thought dwarf actors get no parts as it is, so to be in the movie but have their heads replaced by tall actors must suck for them.
I gave it an A+. High, yes, but I went in hoping for an engrossing dark fairytale and that's what I got. If I can walk out of a movie not immediately thinking of ten annoying things wrong with it, and instead be open to seeing it again, that's a major win for me. Your mileage may vary.
EDIT: And yes, at several times you see Stewart barefoot and she has pretty feet, so bonus points.
I can't stand Stewart in the Twilight films, but I quite enjoyed her in this. He accent was even good, to my admittedly American ears. She's very pretty and I didn't find myself wanting to strangler her for her acting, which is my usual reaction. She has crazy-beautiful eyes. And while I admit, Charlize is like a 12, and Kristen is an 8, I think the idea was that she was the fairest, because her inner beauty magnified her outer beauty.
The costume design, set design and world building were all top notch. It wasn't just simply another generic medieval mudhole. The troll rocked, the ebon-shard warriors were cool, the fairy sanctuary was great, the dwarves all looked believable. I will say I thought dwarf actors get no parts as it is, so to be in the movie but have their heads replaced by tall actors must suck for them.
I gave it an A+. High, yes, but I went in hoping for an engrossing dark fairytale and that's what I got. If I can walk out of a movie not immediately thinking of ten annoying things wrong with it, and instead be open to seeing it again, that's a major win for me. Your mileage may vary.
EDIT: And yes, at several times you see Stewart barefoot and she has pretty feet, so bonus points.
I gave it an A+
Like Base Delta Zero I found it very reminiscient of Willow, which in my eyes is a great thing. Of course I went in wanting to enjoy it, so I could have been biased a tad, but then again, I went in wanting to love Prometheus and wound up greatly disappointed there (again, like Base Delta Zero...weird).
I did find Stewart a tad wooden at times, but that's made up for by Chris Hemsworth and all the Dwarves. What I found the most interesting is that this film played more like an ensemble film than a film headed by Stewart. In retrospect that might be because she is lacking in presence, but like I just said, it wasn't a huge issue for me.
Like Base Delta Zero I found it very reminiscient of Willow, which in my eyes is a great thing. Of course I went in wanting to enjoy it, so I could have been biased a tad, but then again, I went in wanting to love Prometheus and wound up greatly disappointed there (again, like Base Delta Zero...weird).
I did find Stewart a tad wooden at times, but that's made up for by Chris Hemsworth and all the Dwarves. What I found the most interesting is that this film played more like an ensemble film than a film headed by Stewart. In retrospect that might be because she is lacking in presence, but like I just said, it wasn't a huge issue for me.