Should Voyager have started using the new uniforms?

[Guy Gardener]

The Maquis should have been set aside with their own colour coding trimming their starfleet uniforms as second class citizen prison labour.

Black?

Purple?

orange?

Silver?

Brown?

Pink?

 

[Sindatur]

The Maquis should have been set aside with their own colour coding trimming their starfleet uniforms as second class citizen prison labour.

Black?

Purple?

orange?

Silver?

Brown?

Pink?

Heh, Be'lanna and Chakotay in Pink Uniforms

 

[exodus]

I think it would have been good for them to change to the newer uniforms, story wise, it could have made the crew feel a little more in touch with the fleet, despite being so far away.

I don't think Chakotay, B'Elanna, Tom and the others that purposely quit Starfleet would care if they were more in touch with Starfleet. I don't see having a new uniform from an organization they didn't want to be part of, would make their morale any better.

If fans biggest complaint about Voyager is the lack of conflict between Starfleet & Maquis, why would the Maquis crewmen want a new uniform to remind them further that Starfleet turned their backs on them?

 

[Timewalker]

Yes, let's stick to the topic. There are more than enough other threads about what was inherently wrong with the show

IMHO, the entire crew should have stopped wearing uniforms totally. Have them wear regular clothes. Have them paint the walls. Have them put up a bunch of potted plants on the bridge. Give the whole ship more of a "generational starship" feel, instead of the Starfleet vessels we've already seen with the Enterprise, Enterprise-D, and the Defiant.

The Maquis should have been set aside with their own colour coding trimming their starfleet uniforms as second class citizen prison labour.

Black?

Purple?

orange?

Silver?

Brown?

Pink?

Heh, Be'lanna and Chakotay in Pink Uniforms

Old-fashioned black-and-white "prisoner stripe" uniforms!

 

[NCC-1701-B]

Yeah but there's still over 100 other people who would

 

[Guy Gardener]

The provisional rank badges in place of pips was really subtle.

Voyager was over for two years before I noticed the page about rank insignia in my encyclopaedia.

 

[exodus]

Yeah but there's still over 100 other people who would

B'Elanna is Chief Engineer with a bad temper and the understanding of how to build a bomb, do you really want to piss her off any worse than she already was?

 

[NCC-1701-B]

She was always angry, I doubt it would make much of a difference, the idea of them being former maquis was largely forgotten a few seasons in, with only a few references here and there.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Episodes. A few episodes in.

 

[exodus]

She was always angry, I doubt it would make much of a difference, the idea of them being former maquis was largely forgotten a few seasons in, with only a few references here and there.

I don't think anyone forgot they were Maquis just because there was little conflict.

 

[NCC-1701-B]

Off the top of my head, I can only recall one episode when there was any trouble from an existing crew member about them being maquis, but then again it has been quite a while since I watched through all of them.

 

[exodus]

Off the top of my head, I can only recall one episode when there was any trouble from an existing crew member about them being maquis, but then again it has been quite a while since I watched through all of them.

What does it have to do with them not wanting to officially be part of Starfleet?

 

[Guy Gardener]

They're willing to blow up Starships to not be part of the Federation.

Priorities dude.

 

[NCC-1701-B]

Off the top of my head, I can only recall one episode when there was any trouble from an existing crew member about them being maquis, but then again it has been quite a while since I watched through all of them.

What does it have to do with them not wanting to officially be part of Starfleet?

To be honest, in a situation like that it's tough shit xD If they were so bothered they'd never have put on the uniform in the first place, updating it with the rest of starfleet is no different.

 

[Lynx]

No, no, never!

The uniforms used in Voyager and the first seasons of DS9 were the best ones. Good looking uniforms.

Those used in FC were just ugly. I never understood the reason for the change. Just another example of changing something for the sake of changing, just like when New York Islanders changed their classic logo for one with a sardin salesman.

 

[Guy Gardener]

If they didn't spend their wardrobe budget, they wouldn't get a wardrobe budget for their next film.

And what if they needed a wardrobe budget in the next movie?

Basically, if you save money or lose money in Hollywood, you're punished.

Which is practically the same everywhere.

 

[MacLeod]

^Very true, take an ordinary buisness if you are budgedt for personel costs of 8% one year and you only spend 6.5%. Next year it'll be well you can manage on 6.5% so that's what you get.

 

[Lynx]

Yeah, it's all about money. As usual!

Everywhere where there is big money involved, it ruins everything. No matter if it's about music, sports movies, TV or whatever. It kills creativity and interest and I'm sick and tired of it.

Humanitys worship of Mammon will probably lead to the end of the world. But who cares as long as there is profit to be made. Humans are the real Ferengis of the universe.

 

[TommyR01D]

There's something else which nobody seems to have mentioned yet:

TOS had different uniforms in different seasons (mostly trying to get the colours right).

The TOS films started out with the body-hugging TMP uniforms, then switched to completely different maroon jackets.

TNG began with the spandex jumpsuits, then switched to similar but looser two-piece versions.

DS9 had half the cast in TNG uniforms for "Emissary", then put all the Starfleet characters in the then-bespoke variant up to "The Ascent", after which they switched to the First Contact uniforms.

The TNG movies began with TNG uniforms, then mixed/matched them with DS9 versions throughout "Generations", and finally went for the FC ones for the other films.

ENT, of course, needed a completely different uniform system due to the new setting.

Voyager, meanwhile is:

A. The only Star Trek show not to have introduced its own uniform variant.

and

B. The only Star Trek show to stick with the same wardrobe throughout its entire run.

Having Janeway switch the crew to FC uniforms would have spoiled that.







On an unrelated note, I no longer seem to be able to start new threads -since my one about the bridge designs on powerpoint- the button for it has gone!

 

[C.E. Evans]

There's something else which nobody seems to have mentioned yet:

TOS had different uniforms in different seasons (mostly trying to get the colours right).

To be fair, the Enterprise was never too far from a Federation starbase in any season in TOS, so new or modified uniforms would be easier to come by. Ditto for the Enterprise-D in TNG.