Even animated stuff has a budget, but you can get more bang for your buck since the barriers to creating things are way lower.
STAR TREK: Captain Worf and other recent proposals
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The inherent problem with Dorn's idea is that the only people who would watch it or buy the DVDs of it are people who post on this forum. CBS knows they have to aim higher than that relatively tiny demographic, if they're even interested in producing a Trek series at all, which they aren't.
While I'm not a huge fan of the idea, I certainly think that an animated series would be the best way to go in terms of popularity and demographics (and I'm talking about animation on par with something like Macross Frontier, not something like that "Bob's Burgers" crap). However, setting it in the prime universe of TNG would be a mistake, for the same reason that Dorn's idea is a mistake. Abrams's Trek is what's hot now, so basing an animated series on that would be the smartest way to go.
While I'm not a huge fan of the idea, I certainly think that an animated series would be the best way to go in terms of popularity and demographics (and I'm talking about animation on par with something like Macross Frontier, not something like that "Bob's Burgers" crap). However, setting it in the prime universe of TNG would be a mistake, for the same reason that Dorn's idea is a mistake. Abrams's Trek is what's hot now, so basing an animated series on that would be the smartest way to go.
I agree with this, as long as Orci and Kurtzman don't spread themselves too thin by trying to make the show, the comics, the game, and the eventual novels all fit into one continuity by being producers. Plenty of franchises have done the out-of-continuity cartoon thing, including GhostBusters, Men in Black, and the Broderek Godzilla film.
I watched the Ghostbusters cartoon religiously as a kid, and I always felt it was extremely well-done, even though there were a few contradictions with the film. But it ended up expanding the plots and characters far more than the movie ever did. If they could do something along the lines of that, I'd definitely watch it.
While other shows stuck to the cast of their movies (even though they hired different people to voice the characters), I'm not sure that's the best approach to take with AbramsTrek, because of Orci and Kurtzman's nasty habit of buying way too much into the whole transmedia thing, which they'd probably insist on if the show actually followed the Enterprise crew. I'd imagine they'd be more hands off if it was just some other crew set in the same universe, even a pre-Enterprise Pike crew.
Well I don't think Dorn is proposing a new series. He's talking about producing a niche movie for a niche audience. I am assuming that there is probably enough old fan support of prime universe Trek to warrant taking on such a project. Maybe there isn't, but I can't believe if they spent 2-3 million on a straight-to-video DVD that they can't get that back.
I don't think that has anything to do with a new series and I don't really see why it would have to step on what Abrams is doing since his Trek stories take place in an alternate timeline.
As for the animated show, I'm all for that. It's something Trek should've been doing for a while now. And a Trek animated show based on the Abrams Trek could be pretty fun.
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If he just wanted to make a fan film, then it would be no big deal. But what I got out of that article was that he wanted to pitch a canon direct-to-DVD movie to CBS. Which means that he wants CBS to approve and finance it. As Temis said, it's not really about the money. It's about what CBS wants to do with the brand. And I don't see them approving something like this.
And yet it reeked of fanwankery and embarrassing coincidences (and performances).
I've enjoyed both "Starship Exeter" eps and all of "New Voyages"/"Phase II" (which just gets better and better) over the tedious "Of Gods and Men". They were fan films made to an excellent standard.
I don't see why not? It's not like CBS is doing much with the brand at all these days except waiting for the next Abrams film. What about satisfying the fans' Trek fix in the meantime? I think the Worf idea might could do that, and I can't believe that any corporation is not concerned about money. If anything they might say no because they don't think it would be a profitable venture, but not because it's not about the money. If they thought money could be made from it they would do it.
That's my point: CBS doesn't care about satisfying Trek fans right now. Even cheaply-made, direct-to-DVD schlock is simply not that important to them. But if they did care, I doubt they'd go the DVD route; they'd just commission a new series.
Don't take what I'm saying the wrong way: If something like this actually happened, I think it would be cool, or at least interesting. But I'm a realist, and I know how television producers think.
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