Conflict with My Neighbor's Family

[TremblingBluStar]

Well I would certainly have negotiated for a few things.

1.>Lower rental agreement
2.>Longer rental agreement at the lower price
3.>as well at what referbishments had to be made to.

Would have been nice, but since his whole motivation in expanding my old place was to get extra money from it ($100 more in rent), he wasn't going to negate that by lowering my rent. The good thing is, he allows me to sign rental agreements in six month increments, so I won't be committed to the place if I decide to leave.

But I do have to say, again, after the refurbishments the place is damn nice!

Did you sign a new agreement for the apartment? Would suck if you ended up being responsible for anything she screws up in your old one.

Yes, I did.

Maybe someone here can answer this question for me - I had suggested to the landlord, and he agreed, that we should simply switch the apartment numbers so we can use the same mail boxes, and won't have to have our mail forwarded, ect. According to my neighbor, she contacted the city (who handles our utilities) and they said we cannot do that because their system is unable to change addresses!

We both called Mediacom Friday to have our cable switched over. Mediacom told us that they couldn't simply transfer them to a new address, that she would have to have her's canceled then transferred, and pay a cancellation fee of $25. I'm not sure why they only made her do this.

Friday she was telling me I owe her $25. That isn't gonna happen.

 

[doubleohfive]

Dude.

The less you talk to this girl, the better. Don't worry about her anymore. Take care of your own stuff and be done with it.

 

[TremblingBluStar]

The less you talk to this girl, the better. Don't worry about her anymore. Take care of your own stuff and be done with it.

I'm not talking to her. The last time I did so was Sunday, when I moved the rest of my stuff out.

I said hello to her cat when I got home, though. He sits in the open window.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Yeah, I couldn't see agreeing to something like this unless I got a significant benefit out of it. Sounds like you're happy with your new apartment, though?

 

[Mr Awe]

Friday she was telling me I owe her $25. That isn't gonna happen.

No, it's not. Don't give her another penny. Make sure you tell her this too in no uncertain terms.

She has this expectation that you'll cover for her in various ways. You need to change this notion of hers.

I'm suspcious of how she came to this mindset, but it's possible she's just a needy, irresponsible person.

Mr Awe

 

[TremblingBluStar]

Yeah, I couldn't see agreeing to something like this unless I got a significant benefit out of it. Sounds like you're happy with your new apartment, though?

Yes. I'm happy with the apartment for the most part. I wish there was a newer stove, but after cleaning it up, it isn't too bad. Nice, retro feeling.

The AC works much better than in the other place, and I enjoy having ceiling fans. Plus, my cats have finally come out of hiding and are acting like themselves!

No, it's not. Don't give her another penny. Make sure you tell her this too in no uncertain terms.

I haven't ever given her money.

She has this expectation that you'll cover for her in various ways. You need to change this notion of hers.

Well, she knows I won't cover for her. I have always been willing to help her in various ways, like moving furniture, and I have watched her baby a few times so she could run to the store.

However, I know how to draw a line. One time she asked me to watch her two daughters so she could work overnight at her hotel job. I felt bad for her, but was not going to get her in the habit of making me her go to babysitter.

I'm suspcious of how she came to this mindset, but it's possible she's just a needy, irresponsible person.

Oh, yeah. I don't want to make this discussion about her, but I will admit she is a mess. She works hard to support her daughters, and has no history of drug use, a good head on her shoulders (for the most part), but is incredibly naive. For example, she had two daughters out of wedlock with two different fathers. Not that this makes her a bad person, but it shows she doesn't exactly think things through.

Plus she tends to meet guys online and allow them to stay the night when her daughters are around. Yet, she had the balls to complain when I started seeing my current girlfriend because she was single.

 

[Mr Awe]

^^ It sounds like your neighbor views guys as a means to an end. Basically a resource. When you started seeing your girlfriend, it threatened your neighbor's supply chain, so to speak. The resources that you provide (babysitting, etc) were now less certain.

Mr Awe

 

[TremblingBluStar]

^^ It sounds like your neighbor views guys as a means to an end. Basically a resource. When you started seeing your girlfriend, it threatened your neighbor's supply chain, so to speak. The resources that you provide (babysitting, etc) were now less certain.

Yeah. I knew she used people from the moment I met her, seeing how one of her kid's fathers used to come by and help her out all the time, changing her brakes, fixing her fridge, ect. That is when I made it clear to her that I'm not going to be used. I don't mind watching the baby for a little while, because I enjoy babies. But she knows I'm not going to do anything for her that doesn't in some way benefit me. I know that sounds selfish, but I have bad experiences with being used by friends.

The one thing I used to do for her, listen to her complain and give her advice I've stopped doing simply because she doesn't value anybody's opinion. I warned her that dating a guy who is unemployed and who she has to drive from DM to see is a bad idea. I even told her that moving into a more expensive apartment when she takes home around $1200 a month is a bad idea. But, of course, she has to learn things the hard way (assuming she is capable of learning).

Anyway, enough ranting about her. Time to put it out of my mind.

 

[TremblingBluStar]

Had an amusing text conversation last night with the neighbor. It went something like this:

Her: Tell your son to turn down his music! You know it is rude!
Me: Okay. I'm not home.
Her: Then call him! You know it is rude and unacceptable!
Me: Yes, mom. I will do that.
Her: Oh, grow up!
Me: Hmmm... okay.
Me: Called him. He will turn it down.
Her: And stop slamming doors late at night! I'm trying to sleep with my daughters and you guys are slamming doors as loud as you please at 11pm!
(I leave all of the doors in my house open so my cats don't get stuck anywhere. I have no idea where this is coming from)
Me: I don't slam doors, but I will tell my son. Night.
Her: You slammed the door when you left! I don't think he slams doors at 11pm!
Me: Why not?
Her: You just think you can do whatever you want and slam doors at all hours! Do you want me to start slamming doors when I get up for work!
Me: Like I said, I will keep an eye on it. Good night.

I get the impression she was trying to goad me into a fight. I find it amusing she is bitching about slamming doors and music now, of all times, when she has never mentioned this before. Further, I have to hear her baby crying until at all hours because she throws her in the play pen instead of paying attention to her.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Man. Stories like this make me glad that all my neighbors do is deal cocaine and leave me in peace.

 

[wissaboo]

yeah, she sounds like trouble. I'm glad you like your new place, but seriously, who just walks over to the neighbours and tells them to switch apartments

 

[Tora Ziyal]

Friday she was telling me I owe her $25. That isn't gonna happen.

The move was for her benefit, and she wants you to pay the $25?! That takes a lot of gall. I'm glad you're happy with the new apartment. But mostly I'm with these guys:

For me it boils down to one simple thing - this woman's situation should have not had any impact on the OP, legally or living situation-wise. The OP didn't move in to the property under the spectre of someday having to trade apartments like it was an episode of "Friends."

You sign a lease and you stick to it. That's what I do as a tenant and as a landlord. When the lease is up, that's when you can negotiate or make changes. Anything in between allows room for someone getting screwed.

Exactly. There's a reason for a contract: it protects both tenant and landlord. Like you, as a prior tenant and current landlord, I do my negotiating before signing the contract, and then expect the other party to honour it.

Obviously, sometimes shit happens but in this case, I can't actually figure out what it was that triggered the OP to agree to move. At the very least, if I was going to agree to a move, I'd only have done so if I renegotiated to a lower monthly rent to compensate for the inconvenience.

 

[Mr Awe]

Personally, I'd move out just to get away from such an annoying neigbhor! It does sound she's barged into your life. You should keep interactions to a minimum. Don't text back, etc. You're not required to. Do tell your soon to be respectable in all ways, for sure. But, you don't need to discuss anything with the neighbor.

Mr Awe

 

[sojourner]

It sounds to me like she's starting to build a bad neighbor case against you. She'll eventually escalate and complain to the landlord about other things you're "doing" and include the slamming doors and loud music as part of an "on going problem".

 

[Holdfast]

Man. Stories like this make me glad that all my neighbors do is deal cocaine and leave me in peace.

Plus, you're guaranteed snow at Christmas...

Personally, I'd move out just to get away from such an annoying neigbhor! It does sound she's barged into your life. You should keep interactions to a minimum. Don't text back, etc. You're not required to. Do tell your soon to be respectable in all ways, for sure. But, you don't need to discuss anything with the neighbor

*nods*

Yup, set some boundaries.

 

[TremblingBluStar]

Man. Stories like this make me glad that all my neighbors do is deal cocaine and leave me in peace.

My neighbor at UNI was an opera singer. I would listen to her sing all day. Especially when she was in the shower!

 

[TremblingBluStar]

Personally, I'd move out just to get away from such an annoying neigbhor! It does sound she's barged into your life. You should keep interactions to a minimum. Don't text back, etc. You're not required to. Do tell your soon to be respectable in all ways, for sure. But, you don't need to discuss anything with the neighbor.

I don't plan to. I am looking for new places right now, but I'm not moving until I find something I like better. I won't be drive from my home by her bullshit.

It sounds to me like she's starting to build a bad neighbor case against you. She'll eventually escalate and complain to the landlord about other things you're "doing" and include the slamming doors and loud music as part of an "on going problem".

Could be. She did something similar with her baby's father, making a list on him so she could get custody.

I can talk to the landlord about her behavior. Not that he will do anything, but just so he knows I'm doing my best to avoid her.

 

[ed629]

Man. Stories like this make me glad that all my neighbors do is deal cocaine and leave me in peace.

My mom liked her drug dealing neighbors, they would mow her lawn, help her out with anything she needed, or if they couldn't do it they would have one of their 'clients' do things for her. On one occasion she had 2 very tall palm trees that died in her front yard, and had a couple tree removal companies look at them to give an estimate. The drug dealing neighbors had someone cut the palm trees down, and haul them away in a roll-away dumpster. They told not to worry about it. She missed them when they moved.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Man. Stories like this make me glad that all my neighbors do is deal cocaine and leave me in peace.

My mom liked her drug dealing neighbors, they would mow her lawn, help her out with anything she needed, or if they couldn't do it they would have one of their 'clients' do things for her. On one occasion she had 2 very tall palm trees that died in her front yard, and had a couple tree removal companies look at them to give an estimate. The drug dealing neighbors had someone cut the palm trees down, and haul them away in a roll-away dumpster. They told not to worry about it. She missed them when they moved.

This says an awful lot about general society, and it's not good that we'd rather live next to the drug dealers

 

[ed629]

Man. Stories like this make me glad that all my neighbors do is deal cocaine and leave me in peace.

My mom liked her drug dealing neighbors, they would mow her lawn, help her out with anything she needed, or if they couldn't do it they would have one of their 'clients' do things for her. On one occasion she had 2 very tall palm trees that died in her front yard, and had a couple tree removal companies look at them to give an estimate. The drug dealing neighbors had someone cut the palm trees down, and haul them away in a roll-away dumpster. They told not to worry about it. She missed them when they moved.

This says an awful lot about general society, and it's not good that we'd rather live next to the drug dealers

I agree, I have a feeling they did all that so she wouldn't call the popo on them. But she did say they were really nice to her.