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Is Star Trek "done"

Is there hope?

  • Yes there is a good chance of a new series within the next 2-3 years

    Votes: 25 33.3%
  • There is a slim chance but it probably wont happen

    Votes: 29 38.7%
  • No Chance, Abrahms-verse every 5 years is all we have left

    Votes: 21 28.0%

  • Total voters
    75
If TNG came on the air today I dont think it would survive, because audiences just arent that forgiving anymore.
It's not audiences we need to worry about, it's the networks and the advertisers. US TV is a vicious circle of people not bothering to watch new shows because they think those shows will be cancelled after the first season, and new shows being cancelled after one or two seasons because no one is watching them. With every 60mins of broadcast time in the US containing about 39mins of actual programming, I can see why people aren't bothering anymore.


Just get rid of the shows and put on nothing but adverts.
On some level the problem is that the television landscape has changed, but the way the networks gather feedback/make money has stayed exactly the same.

We're living in a hundred-channel universe these days. The amount of choice available to a viewer at home today is staggering compared even to TNG's hey-day, let alone how things were at the time of TOS (when at best you had, what, three or four networks and that was it?). With so many other choices available to them, the viewers are not as fixed on any one concept or another as they used to be. They'll just go away and watch something else instead, and the show (which relies on advertising revenue -- no advertising, no show) suffers as a result.

The way the networks look at their viewers hasn't changed to reflect these modern times. They still look at advertising dollars and plain old ratings, just as they always have done, except they're doing it now in an era when such methods are almost outmoded. Indeed, with internet multimedia at our fingertips, we're not even limited to watching what the television broadcasters all want us to watch. We can programme our own viewing entertainment. You can no longer rely on the factor of 'if enough people watch this then we can sell more stuff and make money', because in this day and age you can never guarantee that enough people will watch anything. To be a success on modern television is harder than ever before.

On some level, I'd say that as long as this old fashioned way of thinking persists, then the television landscape is only going to get less and less, as it slowly eats itself to death. :( At least in the realm of movies, a product has got a fighting chance of making it's money back. I think that Star Trek's future lies fairly and squarely at the box office, not in the living room.
 
I would like to see a new TV star trek series. Is their eny way that fans on the trek bbs can petition CBS television to try and get a new series of the ground.
 
I would like to see a new TV star trek series. Is their eny way that fans on the trek bbs can petition CBS television to try and get a new series of the ground.
 
I would like to see a new TV star trek series. Is their eny way that fans on the trek bbs can petition CBS television to try and get a new series of the ground.
Oh, sure, they could be petitioned, but, calls to bring back series that were cancelled or not to cancel a series, or other similar projects rarely work out.

The best hope is that Star Trek 2 does really well at the Box Office (So there will be 2 Movies back to back in the new series that ahve done well). If the movie series is only intending to be a Trilogy, perhaps after the second one proves it's strength, they may start putting plans in motion to have a TV Series ride the coat tails of the 3rd film. But, since Space Opera is so expensive, and doesn't get the ratings it needs to justify that expense on Broadcast, they'd also need to make deals/arrangements where to air it, because airing it on CBS is highly unlikely, considering they'd need to keep ratings over 10 Million (Which is becoming increasingly difficult for any series, let alone a Space Opera Series) for such an expensive show to survive
 
...Where would it sit though? I think UPN has moved on. CBS could be an option - but it would need to be way more mainstream and command viewers to survive on there...


The United Paramount Network hasn't existed for years. What in the world do you mean?

UPN merged with the WB network and the two became the CW. The company that owned UPN, CBS, pushed Paramount out of the picture, then spun Paramount off into a separate company not even owned by CBS any more.

As for CBS being a home for televised Trek, it was the suits at CBS who cancelled Enterprise after taking over and cutting UPN off from Paramount.

In my opinion, the suits at CBS have no real love for Trek, except with regards to any dollars they can make off it. I seriously doubt they'd give it a chance on TV again. (CBS doesn't have a very good rep where scifi programming is concerned.)
 
...Where would it sit though? I think UPN has moved on. CBS could be an option - but it would need to be way more mainstream and command viewers to survive on there...


The United Paramount Network hasn't existed for years. What in the world do you mean?
I think a lot of Trekkers here didn't really watch UPN for anything other than VOY and/or ENT, and after those shows ended, it went under their radar (that was certainly the case for me).
 
...Where would it sit though? I think UPN has moved on. CBS could be an option - but it would need to be way more mainstream and command viewers to survive on there...


The United Paramount Network hasn't existed for years. What in the world do you mean?
I think a lot of Trekkers here didn't really watch UPN for anything other than VOY and/or ENT, and after those shows ended, it went under their radar (that was certainly the case for me).

Well, because other than Star Trek, UPN might as well have been BET. They had such an odd lineup of programming.
 
...Where would it sit though? I think UPN has moved on. CBS could be an option - but it would need to be way more mainstream and command viewers to survive on there...


The United Paramount Network hasn't existed for years. What in the world do you mean?
I think a lot of Trekkers here didn't really watch UPN for anything other than VOY and/or ENT, and after those shows ended, it went under their radar (that was certainly the case for me).
Plus, it's pretty unfair to expect non-Americans like Antony to keep track of the status of American Networks
 
The United Paramount Network hasn't existed for years. What in the world do you mean?
I think a lot of Trekkers here didn't really watch UPN for anything other than VOY and/or ENT, and after those shows ended, it went under their radar (that was certainly the case for me).

Well, because other than Star Trek, UPN might as well have been BET. They had such an odd lineup of programming.


they got Buffy for the last two seasons.
 
I think a lot of Trekkers here didn't really watch UPN for anything other than VOY and/or ENT, and after those shows ended, it went under their radar (that was certainly the case for me).

Well, because other than Star Trek, UPN might as well have been BET. They had such an odd lineup of programming.


they got Buffy for the last two seasons.

And at least a season of ROSWELL, as I recall.
 
Is their any way that fans on the trek bbs can petition CBS television to try and get a new series of the ground.

There's a greater chance that I will build a rocket in my backyard and fly to Mars before the Curiousity rover gets there.
 
To answer the OP...Yes, it is done. The original flame died when Roddenberry did. I know that sentence alone will spark a flame war that will never end But it is the truth...TOS was made and developed by Gene and subsequently lasted not even a whole season after he left. TMP happened only because he pitched the idea to Paramount and they wanted a movie like Star Wars.
TNG .mostly happened and came about because of him,..he chose the syndicated route so it could be made cheaper. Sure it remained successful after he passed but that was carried well by Berman and crew.
So all in all it is done. the original creator who was the mindset and inspiration of the original "IDEA" of "Star Trek" is gone as is most of the people that made it the way it was.
To even have someone come in and suggest they know what "Star Trek" is what it is... their take on that.
As with "JJ Trek" it isn't "Star Trek" though there is an unbelievable amount of posters on this board that think otherwise.
 
As with "JJ Trek" it isn't "Star Trek" though there is an unbelievable amount of posters on this board that think otherwise.

I disagree. I watched the original series in syndication back in 1973 when I was 10. So far JJ has been the only one to reignite the way I felt while watching original Trek. He captured the relationships and the sense of urgency and adventure than I fell in love with all of those years ago.
 
As with "JJ Trek" it isn't "Star Trek" though there is an unbelievable amount of posters on this board that think otherwise.

:guffaw:

That shit never gets old.

How did I know that was coming?....:rolleyes::lol:

As with "JJ Trek" it isn't "Star Trek" though there is an unbelievable amount of posters on this board that think otherwise.

I disagree. I watched the original series in syndication back in 1973 when I was 10. So far JJ has been the only one to reignite the way I felt while watching original Trek. He captured the relationships and the sense of urgency and adventure than I fell in love with all of those years ago.

Well then that is your opinion. I too watched it in syndication back then when my grandmother would be watching it. As I grew older I would race home 6 blocks from my elementary school just so I could watch it from the very beginning when it aired.
 
I grew up on TOS, too, and it's still my favorite incarnation of Trek, but I would never tell anyone that TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, and the new movies aren't really Star Trek. Star Trek isn't "done." It's still going strong.

And, honestly, the reboot did capture the fun and energy of TOS more than some of the later spin-offs. IMHO.
 
JJ Abrams Star Trek is closer in spirit to the original series than a lot of the spinoffs were. I think a huge number of people who saw the Abrams Trek felt like Star Trek was coming home for the first time in many years.
 
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