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Once Upon a Time (ABC) - 1x02 till the bitter end

I imagine the main fairyland thread will be the retaking of the kingdom, which could mirror the power struggle for Storybrooke.

There do seem to be more devious people who use magic, the heroes largely seem to be magic-less (although they have true love). I like the idea someone suggested upthread of Merlin coming into it, or at least a powerful good wizard to balance out Regina and Rumple.
 
There are also all the fairies, who may not be that powerful individually but there are a lot of them.
 
So I guess with everybody's memories restored, we won't really get to see the "real world versions" of the remaining fairy tale characters.

And there are still some big ones left too, like Alice, Rapunzel, Sleeping Beauty, Ariel, Jack (of the beanstalk)...
 
trekkiebaggio said:
It's gonna be an awkward reunion between Emma, Snow and Charming :lol:
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I wonder if Snow will threaten to ground Emma for not believing Henry SOONER! :guffaw:

The awkward moment will come when Snow kicks Emma out of the apartment so Charming can move in. ;)

Which begs the question, where will Emma and Henry live? :confused:

I also wonder... when Emma will figure out that Regina killed Graham, and what she'll do once that happens? :eek:
 
Good point about Jefferson. He did make quite a snide comment about Henry's chances of recovery just after he drugged the nurse. I didn't think anything of it at the time.
 
There's a comic called Bacchus where the Roman god of drinking hard sits down in a bar to lay one on, and the bar decides to secede from the British government, the same with Springfield when Cobra annexed the place in the 80s and I'm pretty sure there was an English comedy in the mid nineties that did the same which wasn't Little Britain...

The curse would have left Storybrook mostly invisible to the Federal Government.

With the curse lifted, rendering a town open tot he light of day populated with twenty thousand plus "entities" some of who, these citizens of storybrook are suddenly being more powerful than a hydrogen bomb, shit is going to get real...ITS AN INVASION! A fricking Foothold! America is under siege!

Washington is going to struggle to find a reason not to nuke Storybrook.

Seriously, handled correctly this would make the new and failed V seem like happily ever after.

Maybe it's more like Alien Nation, or possibly Earth Final Conlfict?

Regina vs. a squad of Tomahawk attack helicopters. the rotor blades transmogrifying into water, the pilots exploding in their cockpits... Can you imagine her catching a sidewinder missile?

Can she fly?

The first tank sent in against an ogre is going to be used as a club to destroy the next hundred tanks.

"Sigh"

So peace is sued.

And there's a sex scene in the oval office between the President and Regina as they formalize things.

Imagine if they got Bill Clinton to play the part of the President?

:)
 
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Can regina turn herself into a dragon as well? If she canany attack by helicopters or fighters would be useless
 
I would have thought Jefferson's remark stemmed from his knowledge that Henry was magically poisoned, not from personal intervention and that this was a piece of dialogue meant to amp up foreboding about Henry dying, and his presence was more or less coincidental;

that kissing Henry broke the curse and we know this because it had the same effect that Charming kissing Snow White had (although I have no idea what the radiating effect did in Fairy Tale Land);

that Rumplestiltskin has sacrificed true love (albeit his was in a bottle) to cast his own curse on Storybrooke and that's why the clock's stopped again;

that the Queen is smirking because she believes either she has Belle as her ace in the hole or that she believes she'll have magic again (and can fight back) or both;

that Pinocchio is dead;

that Ruby and Granny are now werewolves;


On the other hand, I don't understand this show.
 
Look at the context of the last Jefferson scene before Henry went into cardiac arrest again - Regina reneged on the whole deal, Jefferson vowed to hurt her the worst way he could, she basically said "What are you gonna do, kill me? You can't. I don't care about you - I only care about my son." She as much as TOLD Jefferson how to hurt her in the worst way possible, without even realizing it. His next move then was obvious - "If I can't have my child, you won't have yours."
 
Taking the Jefferson/Regina confrontation seriously? The Queen says Jefferson doesn't have it in him to kill her. Yet Jefferson has it in himself to kill a little boy? (The question of precisely how he was supposed to be able to do this is irrelevant, the script would supply the power as needed.) According to Regina herself, Henry was the most important thing. So what was the point to releasing Belle? If he imagines he'll gain Rumplestiltskin's protection, I can only think he's at least consistently idiotic.

The only reason to believe Jefferson poisoned Henry again (or whatever) is his proximity to Henry at the code. Regina had confessed to Emma that magic was unpredictable, meaning that the sleeping spell could go aswry.
 
I just took it that Jefferson knew what that apple could do. I would imagine that the mayor's/sheriff's son being admitted as a coma patient would be news. We know that Jefferson kept an eye on things.

Jefferson struck me as a little too hapless to be a big bad, but he was probably plotting on how to screw over Regina after she used him for what, the second or third time?

Since he was the town's resident voyuer, I imagine he got a load of Belle somehow, but how? (I assume she stayed locked up 24/7.) I don't think he was so much concentrating on helping anyone as focused on getting back at Regina.

As a previous poster stated, I think that the battle for Storybrooke will parallel Snow/Charming's battle for the kingdom next season. Therefore, we will see Maine and Fairytale Land.

It does make me wonder how content some of the residents of Maine are going to be next season?

He may have been a little nuts, but did seem to be a devoted father. I find it hard to imagine that he actively tried to hurt Henry.
 
So the apple could be fixed by true loves kiss?

but whatever Jefferson did could also be cured by trueloves kiss?

Surely the entire point of poisoning someone twice is that they need two cures.

And honestly.

If Henry was poisoned nonmagically, the Doctors would know instantly that it wasn't a magical poison, just like they knew instantly that the apple was a magical poison.

Methinks that Whale still wanted to bone Emma, but that kids are stupid and get in the way and if she was traumatized by a 4 foot 6 corpse, that the sheriff would be easy easy pickings to tie up to his posterbedposts.
 
Kosh Naranek said:
I just took it that Jefferson knew what that apple could do. I would imagine that the mayor's/sheriff's son being admitted as a coma patient would be news. We know that Jefferson kept an eye on things.
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I'm not sure how he would know the apple would cause Henry to go into cardiac arrest (causing a distraction at just the right time for him to slip in and get Belle). For all he knew, Henry would have just continued to slumber away in his magical coma for the next 5 years.
 
The Queen says Jefferson doesn't have it in him to kill her. Yet Jefferson has it in himself to kill a little boy?


I don't think Jefferson would go after a child. He cherishes his own too much for that.


Two words: Anakin Skywalker. (And Jefferson had more of an excuse.)


So what was the point to releasing Belle? If he imagines he'll gain Rumplestiltskin's protection, I can only think he's at least consistently idiotic.


It wasn't about protection. It was about revenge.

Regina was right, Jefferson didn't have the power/skills/guts needed to kill her... but Rumpy did. That's why he stressed that Belle make it clear to Rumpy that Regina was her jailer - he (reasonably) figured Rumpy would tear the city apart looking for Regina and then tear her limb from limb. At which point Jefferson could approach Rumpy and reiterate what he wanted from Regina: A new life with his daughter. And as for Rumpy's standard line: "Dude, I'm the reason you've got your girl back - and I KILLED A KID to do so. Consider this deal paid in advance."
 
If I had a child of my own that I cared about, I wouldn't kill the Queen's child. Especially if I wasn't sure Rumplestiltskin would definitely, with a doubt, nary a whisper of a chance, get to her before she could take revenge on me by killing my child.

But I don't understand this show. Maybe he was supposed to have done something else to Henry.
 
Wait a minute, wait a minute!

The apple was a volatile and unpredictable resource that might have not only done what it was not supposed to do, but also might have killed the poor bugger eating the cursed fruit.

The apple not only might have killed Emma and broken the curse, but considering how fucked this world was for holding onto magic, it was almost a certainty that it would have AND... Henry kissing a dying Emma was true loves kiss too which would have saved her anyway and broken the curse!

ARRRGH!

Who/what they really need to screw over Emma was Midas.

Would Midas' severed arm turn 'x' into gold?

Or would they have had to have left the portal open and then either stuck a bit of Emma into the other world or draw Midas' still living limb into Storybrook...
 
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