&^%$ you St. Elsewhere!
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I've never watch Grey's Anatomy. I don't even like the commercials for it. I prefer to think of Scrubs as the modern day St. Elsewhere
Scrubs is no longer the modern anything.
It started in 2001.
Right this second there so, so, so, so many drunk, stoned children stealing cars right now that were born after Scrubs started.
It started in 2001.
Right this second there so, so, so, so many drunk, stoned children stealing cars right now that were born after Scrubs started.
Hawaii 5-0 was mentioned as a fictional tv show on NCIS a few years back and just last week there was a NCIS LA/Hawaii 5-0 crossover making them in the same universe. Having actual characters from another show showing up takes prescendence over the mention of a fictional tv show. It's easier to wave away the show than the characters.
Another example is in an episode of Millennium a character is watching the X-files and then 2 years later Millennium characters show up in an X-Files universe.
It doesn't really matter how it's explained anyways. it's all just fiction.
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So what? The Practice and Ally McBeal did a crossover once, and then a few years later there was a storyline on The Practice where a teacher fired from Boston Public sued the school.
Years after that, on The Practice, a criminal court case is hinged on a few cogent facts - one of which being that the defendant couldn't have committed the murder because he had been home, watching Boston Public on TV.
An even more fun brain teaser: Bobby Ewing is killed off in the seventh season finale of Dallas. Season 8 features the Ewings grieving, leading up to the eponymous shower scene in the season 8 finale where Pam (Bobby's ex-wife) wakes up to find him in her shower and his only explanation (until the following season premiere, of course) being a simple "Good morning!"
As we found out, the whole of season 8 and the last ten or so minutes of the season 7 finale were all Pam's dream. Which is fine and dandy for Dallas, really. Where it really got complicated was with its spinoff show, Knots Landing.
After Bobby's death, Bobby's brother Gary Ewing (one of the leads on Knots) begins drinking again and descends in to his alcoholism while grieving. Except, when Bobby came back, Knots Landing never mentioned it. In fact, as far as anyone on Knots Landing was concerned, Bobby stayed dead!
With the exception of the Dallas series finale (which showed, in a "it's a wonderful life" kind of way how everyone's lives would have been different had JR never been born - including Gary and his wife Valene), apart from a few verbal mentions, Gary is never seen on Dallas again.
I don't know if Dallas did any more crossovers with Knots after that, but it's still a tough one to reconcile if you don't know what was going on behind the scenes.
Years after that, on The Practice, a criminal court case is hinged on a few cogent facts - one of which being that the defendant couldn't have committed the murder because he had been home, watching Boston Public on TV.
An even more fun brain teaser: Bobby Ewing is killed off in the seventh season finale of Dallas. Season 8 features the Ewings grieving, leading up to the eponymous shower scene in the season 8 finale where Pam (Bobby's ex-wife) wakes up to find him in her shower and his only explanation (until the following season premiere, of course) being a simple "Good morning!"
As we found out, the whole of season 8 and the last ten or so minutes of the season 7 finale were all Pam's dream. Which is fine and dandy for Dallas, really. Where it really got complicated was with its spinoff show, Knots Landing.
After Bobby's death, Bobby's brother Gary Ewing (one of the leads on Knots) begins drinking again and descends in to his alcoholism while grieving. Except, when Bobby came back, Knots Landing never mentioned it. In fact, as far as anyone on Knots Landing was concerned, Bobby stayed dead!
With the exception of the Dallas series finale (which showed, in a "it's a wonderful life" kind of way how everyone's lives would have been different had JR never been born - including Gary and his wife Valene), apart from a few verbal mentions, Gary is never seen on Dallas again.
I don't know if Dallas did any more crossovers with Knots after that, but it's still a tough one to reconcile if you don't know what was going on behind the scenes.
No, it doesn't. There is no such thing as "precedence" here. There can be two parallel universe versions of John Munch, for example - one in the L&O universe and one in the X-Files one. I don't see why that's such a big deal.
Think of this: In the X-Files universe, the world is supposed to end (via alien invasion) in 2012. SVU's locked up for another season beyond this one, which would put it in 2013 then. So therefore the L&O/Homicide universe is obviously not set in a world facing extinction....
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^Do you really think that any X-Files production featuring the 2012 invasion storyline would end with anything other than Mulder and Scully saving the day?
^ It's not just a matter of the invasion succeeding (which may or may not happen in the X-Files universe), it's the fact that in the L&O-verse, it won't even happen at all. Come this time next year there won't be a single reference to it. And obviously an invasion like that would have world-shattering repercussions.
The simple fact is this: In the shared L&O/Homicide universe, X-Files has been established as fictional. I consider that to be definitive. So what if John Munch showed up on one XF episode? Like I said, there can be L&O and XF versions of him. Real people can exist in more than one fictional universe, so why not fictional characters?
The simple fact is this: In the shared L&O/Homicide universe, X-Files has been established as fictional. I consider that to be definitive. So what if John Munch showed up on one XF episode? Like I said, there can be L&O and XF versions of him. Real people can exist in more than one fictional universe, so why not fictional characters?
What happens if the Law & Order version of John Munch watches The X-Files?
That's easy enough: He'll see another actor playing him.
Assuming Richard Belzer exists in the L&O universe, Munch probably will think "Hey, that guy looks like me"...
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In the Last Action Hero Universe, Stallone played the Terminator.
I remeber wondering these logistics in the 80s watching 277, thinking can that actress only be in this show if this is a universe without Sesame Street, or a universe where she doesn't play Susan on Sesame Street?
But then R2D2 and C3PO played themselves on sesame street, which means that star wars is real in the Sesame Street Universe.
I remeber wondering these logistics in the 80s watching 277, thinking can that actress only be in this show if this is a universe without Sesame Street, or a universe where she doesn't play Susan on Sesame Street?
But then R2D2 and C3PO played themselves on sesame street, which means that star wars is real in the Sesame Street Universe.
That's easy enough: He'll see another actor playing him.
The interesting question is what happens if the X-Files version of Munch watches L&O?
Doesn't change my opinion. Is "modern" limited to right this moment?
Kids who were born when Scubs went off the air are toddlers.
I watch old TV that I think is still new Tv and they're talking about how important their beepers are.
In the pilot to Blossom. Mayim says to her video journal "My goal in life is to one day Marry Riiver Phoenix."
Time makes bitches of us all.
In the pilot to Blossom. Mayim says to her video journal "My goal in life is to one day Marry Riiver Phoenix."
Time makes bitches of us all.
Forget that. That's nothing compared to the blurring of universes that occurred once on Chicago Hope, when Christine Lahti's character stepped into the Doctor's Lounge, and a bunch of doctors were sitting around watching a medical drama on the lounge television. The show? An early episode of... get this... Chicago Hope! She then comments to another doctor "Oh, I remember this episode. Isn't this the one where they kill off Peter MacNicol's character?" (It was.)
Talk about a mind-"frak".
In the Last Action Hero Universe, Stallone played the Terminator.
I remeber wondering these logistics in the 80s watching 277, thinking can that actress only be in this show if this is a universe without Sesame Street, or a universe where she doesn't play Susan on Sesame Street?
But then R2D2 and C3PO played themselves on sesame street, which means that star wars is real in the Sesame Street Universe.
Hmm, but Mark Hamill played himself on The Muppets Show. Which makes the Muppets and sesame street different universes.
My brain hurts.
In the Last Action Hero Universe, Stallone played the Terminator.
I remeber wondering these logistics in the 80s watching 277, thinking can that actress only be in this show if this is a universe without Sesame Street, or a universe where she doesn't play Susan on Sesame Street?
But then R2D2 and C3PO played themselves on sesame street, which means that star wars is real in the Sesame Street Universe.
Hmm, but Mark Hamill played himself on The Muppets Show. Which makes the Muppets and sesame street different universes.
My brain hurts.
He also played his "cousin" (yes, that's what he says in the show), Luke Skywalker
Scrubs/Cougar Town is a fun convoluted universe as well. Reused a bunch of the same actors, in different roles. And filmed partially in the same location as Scrubs' final season (the medical school is also Travis's college).
And then several Scrubs characters have appeared in their roles from Scrubs. And referenced that fact. Gets muddy from there...
And then several Scrubs characters have appeared in their roles from Scrubs. And referenced that fact. Gets muddy from there...