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And that's what it comes down to really. I really enjoy the movie (big surprise, eh?) so I'm willing to accept the more ridiculous aspects of it, namely the Statue coming alive, for one.
 
I'm willing to accept the statue of liberty thing, I just don't think it's entertaining or funny :p

On the other hand, I still like most of Ghostbusters II. The courthouse scene is about as good as anything in the first film.
 
Are you telling me you didn't laugh just a little when the Statue crushed that police car?

Funny or not, I still enjoy the Statue scenes for the reason outlined by Christopher above. That the mood slime around the Museum is effectively dealt with because of all the good will by the New Yorkers.
 
Yeah. Sure, I recognize that the impetus behind the Statue sequence was basically about saying, "Okay, how do we top the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man?" But it ended up being something more meaningful, or at least a lot less cynical, than that.
 
^It's a movie franchise about ghosts and gods. It posits the reality of the supernatural and is fraught with magic and mysticism. It's kind of silly to nitpick engineering technicalities, isn't it? If supernatural forces can materialize a giant marshmallow man out of nowhere or open a portal to another plane of reality or animate paint on a canvas as though it were a live person, then it's no more implausible that they could have a shapeshifting effect on the structure of a statue.

I guess it's just a matter of what one is willing to accept and how much belief one wants to suspend. I can accept gods, ghosts and equipment that can capture them just as much as I can accept transporters and warp drive.

I accept the "animation" and changing of paint on a canvas as it either being an illusion being created by the ghost/god or hell just being able to move oils around on a canvas.

I accept the materialization of stuff (like several hundred tons of marshmallow) out of nowhere as just more "ghost stuff", they've converted PK energy into matter. :handwave:

But moving a stories-tall, tons heavy, rigid structure and getting it to move and behave in a manner that it cannot (the robe was even draping and moving around the statue is if it was really a fabric as she walked) is beyond what I'm willing to accept. The slime is shown to be nothing more than a substance that moves and reacts to the psycho-kentic energy/moods around it and not to be "capable of thought" the same way the ghosts in the movies are. (Not sure what word works there... "alive", "sentient", "sapient...?") It's just a substance that reacts.

If ghosts had "possessed" the materials in the SoL and made it move that'd be a touch different. But it's not what happened, the Ghostbusters sprayed a substance all over the inside of the SoL, hooked a damn Nintendo-control up to it were able to make a rigid structure walk and move like a person. That's... more than I'm willing to hand-wave away.

Wait...maybe I'm forgetting something, but aren't there spirits embedded in the slime. I seem to recall it wailing and making noise at one point. doesn't a ghost bust out of it at some point?

I'll also remind you that the slime did cause a fur coat to sprout arms heads etc.
 
It's possible the slime contains ghosts or is means through which a spirit can manifest itself into a physical form. And, yeah the slime did animate the fur coat but I say again it animated it much in the same way it "animated" the toaster. You could probably argue it "zombified" the minks the coat was made out of which could give the coat a degree or two of "intelligence."

That, again, is very different than mortals spraying the inside of statue with it and getting the statue to walk (again with joints it does not have) using a Nintendo controller.
 
It's possible the slime contains ghosts or is means through which a spirit can manifest itself into a physical form. And, yeah the slime did animate the fur coat but I say again it animated it much in the same way it "animated" the toaster. You could probably argue it "zombified" the minks the coat was made out of which could give the coat a degree or two of "intelligence."

That, again, is very different than mortals spraying the inside of statue with it and getting the statue to walk (again with joints it does not have) using a Nintendo controller.

Actually, what am I thinking...the slime IS possessed by actual spirits. That's exactly what happens in the courtroom. The judge got angry enough to release the spirit brothers from the slime.

It did more than animate the coat...it caused it to sprout arms, legs and heads....something that would NOT have been in the original mink coat.

Once you accept that the slime is not just animating an object, but actually possessing it...all bets are off. I guess I grew up watching The Real Ghostbusters where ghost frequently possessed objects causing them to occasionaly sprout arms, legs, eyes and mouths...and start running amok. So having the SoL get possessed by spirits and get up and walk around is not all that odd. Its just what happens in the world of the Ghostbusters.
 
It's possible the slime contains ghosts or is means through which a spirit can manifest itself into a physical form. And, yeah the slime did animate the fur coat but I say again it animated it much in the same way it "animated" the toaster. You could probably argue it "zombified" the minks the coat was made out of which could give the coat a degree or two of "intelligence."

That, again, is very different than mortals spraying the inside of statue with it and getting the statue to walk (again with joints it does not have) using a Nintendo controller.

It did more than animate the coat...it caused it to sprout arms, legs and heads....something that would NOT have been in the original mink coat.

Eh, I guess I always figured the coat already had those things.
 
I guess I grew up watching The Real Ghostbusters where ghost frequently possessed objects causing them to occasionaly sprout arms, legs, eyes and mouths...and start running amok. So having the SoL get possessed by spirits and get up and walk around is not all that odd. Its just what happens in the world of the Ghostbusters.

Right. There were plenty of much more extreme transformations of matter in that show. There was even an episode ("Janine Melnitz, Ghostbuster") where a ghost possessed the statue of Atlas at Rockefeller Center and animated it, making it throw its globe at Ecto-1.
 
It's possible the slime contains ghosts or is means through which a spirit can manifest itself into a physical form. And, yeah the slime did animate the fur coat but I say again it animated it much in the same way it "animated" the toaster. You could probably argue it "zombified" the minks the coat was made out of which could give the coat a degree or two of "intelligence."

That, again, is very different than mortals spraying the inside of statue with it and getting the statue to walk (again with joints it does not have) using a Nintendo controller.

It did more than animate the coat...it caused it to sprout arms, legs and heads....something that would NOT have been in the original mink coat.

Eh, I guess I always figured the coat already had those things.

Yes, because all Mink coats have a bunch of heads already in there.
 
It did more than animate the coat...it caused it to sprout arms, legs and heads....something that would NOT have been in the original mink coat.

Eh, I guess I always figured the coat already had those things.

Yes, because all Mink coats have a bunch of heads already in there.

What do I know about Mink coats? I've never seen nor had one. And maybe there's a very niche, esoteric, market for minks coats with the heads still attached. Don't they make shoals that have heads? :shrug:

Anyway, if the slime/spirits manifested the heads out of thin air... okay I see that as just as silly on par with the SoL thing but, again, done by ghosts and not men so not as silly.
 
considering a shoal is a crowd of fish, no they don't make 'shoals' with heads. shoals naturally have laods of heads.

if you mean a fur stole then you might be right.
 
considering a shoal is a crowd of fish, no they don't make 'shoals' with heads. shoals naturally have loads of heads.

if you mean a fur stole then you might be right.
I always thought a shoal was a shallow area in a body of water like a sandbank or sandbar. But apparently it can also mean “a large school of fish or other marine animals.” So I just learned something new.

Perhaps Trekker meant shawl, though he was probably thinking of a mink stole. Vintage fur stoles used to be made with the full pelt including the head, tail and feet. But they look pretty grisly today.

A shul is a Jewish synagogue. :p
 
Nice to see a lot of people saying they like the sequel. Sure its not as good as the original but its not bad either.

I am kind of concerned.... I have noticed a lot of things that are usually dismissed and complained about being defended on this forum lately!!!??? :eek:

Did I wake up in a parallel universe of something????? ;)
 
Btw as I said I do really like GB2, but I still think the idea of a GB3 is a terrible one. If this were like 1995 maybe, but talking about it in 2012? (Meaning it wouldn't be out till at least 2013/14) noooooo. Just leave them be, please
 
Btw as I said I do really like GB2, but I still think the idea of a GB3 is a terrible one. If this were like 1995 maybe, but talking about it in 2012? (Meaning it wouldn't be out till at least 2013/14) noooooo. Just leave them be, please

I agree. I mean, Ghostbusters II is far from a terrible movie. It's pretty enjoyable, plot holes in all. But, it IS a huge step down in quality from the first flick.

I'm afraid if they make another one, especially after all these years, it'll be Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull all over again, with everybody looking old and cranky.

If they make a sequel, I'd rather see a new team, perhaps set in Los Angeles or Washington, DC, a franchise team with new people having new adventures with their proton packs.
 
I think that was the idea behind the third movie for at least part of the development process, to have the old guard handing over the reins to a new team, like the Extreme Ghostbusters cartoon.
 
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