Maybe his full name is Captain B-4 Data? Like, he adopted "Data" as a family name? (shrug)
But then wouldn't he be Captain B-4, not Data?
The human Reaper that Commander Shepard fought in 2185. Should have checked to make sure it was actually dead!Any ideas or bets on what that might be/In Book Three, The Body Electric, the Enterprise crew is brought to the center of the Milky Way by an old friend — Traveler and former shipmate Wesley Crusher — to try to stop a massive sentient machine whose mysterious labors threaten the future of every civilization in the galaxy.
Say, wasn't Lore being stored in a box in Data's room on the E-D? Surprised no one has done anything with that.
Me too actually. I remember them referring to Lore, Lal, and Data's "mother", but I can't remember exactly what was said about them. Damn, I just checked Memory Beta and it doesn't have anything about IC in the Lore entry.
Me too actually. I remember them referring to Lore, Lal, and Data's "mother", but I can't remember exactly what was said about them. Damn, I just checked Memory Beta and it doesn't have anything about IC in the Lore entry.
Yeah, I was looking a few hours ago. What a mess. It's like that one SNW story has overshadowed all other Soong android appearances.
It's been ages since I read it, but IC mentions that at some point after "Descent", Data had headed back to Soong's colony world of Omicron Theta and retrieved the first two prototypes first mentioned by the Juliana android in "Inheritance". The novel reveals that those prototypes, plus Lal, the recently "deceased" Juliana, and the disassembled Lore, were all stored in Data's lab.
Somewhere, but I can't recall exactly where, there was mention that Lore was destroyed beyond repair in the crash of the Enterprise-D.
IIRC, that comes up in KRAD's Articles of the Federation.
Yet there were some hints dropped in "Paths of Disharmony" and "Rough Beasts of Empire" that a vaguely Countdownish future may come to pass.Aw, so I take that to mean that Cold Equations is going to eliminate Countdown from novelverse continuity? I rather liked that story...
"Countdown" was a comic mini-series. It's not necessarily in future novel continuity.
A chapter in "The Needs of the Many" explained Data's resurrection in B4, in a direct set-up for "Countdown". Although, the circumstaces in the post-Destiny novels would require a somewhat different approach.I don't think Data would have uploaded his memories and such into B-4 if he believed they would overwrite B-4's own programming and essentially kill him.
Maybe the programming blended (rather like the recent blending of my two laptops' memories) and the "Countdown" Captain Data is the B-4 that happily embraced the gradual integration of Data memories?
After the revelations of "Nemesis", I told Jeff Lang that if he ever did a sequel to "Immortal Coil", perhaps the prototypes would be B-1, B-2 and B-3.
Aw, so I take that to mean that Cold Equations is going to eliminate Countdown from novelverse continuity? I rather liked that story...
"Countdown" was a comic mini-series. It's not necessarily in future novel continuity.
AFAIK, Countdown is part of the Star Trek Online continuity, which is incompatible with extended treklit.
Do we know for sure that B-4 was crude? At the beginning of "The Offspring", Lal exhibits many of the same behaviours as B-4. That episode took place over weeks; Nemesis over days.After the revelations of "Nemesis", I told Jeff Lang that if he ever did a sequel to "Immortal Coil", perhaps the prototypes would be B-1, B-2 and B-3.
As I've said before, that doesn't work for me because B-4 was simply too crude to be the fourth prototype out of six. Also because Julianna evidently didn't know about him, so he may have been built before she came along, before the other three. As I've suggested, B-1 through B-3 might've been nonhumanoid prototypes of just the positronic brain, or maybe, as the script itself suggested, "B-4" was simply a pun on "Before."
DATA: The B-4 is physically identical to me, although his neural pathways are not as advanced. But even if they were, he would not be me.
PICARD: How can you be sure?
DATA: I aspire, sir, to be better than I am. B-4 does not. Nor does Shinzon.
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