Voyager in 23rd Century

[Gagarin]

Suppose Voyager took place in the 23rd century (2280's or 2290's) - with similar premise (smaller ship, smaller crew), stranded far away - what would the possibilities have been?

*No replicators (sure, food processors, protein reconstitutes...but no Tea-Earl-Grey-Hot action)
*No holodeck (and therefore, no holodeck stories)
*No Maquis
*No Torres
*2nd "first contact" with Borg, Borg 75-years less advanced
*No tachyon bursts
*Could have an ending featuring 24th century characters.
*Maybe a transwarp storyline would have made sense (bring up Excelsior's design notes...)

Of course, if the producers weren't willing/able to go after the 'stranded ship/limited means' aspect, this show would have been worse.

 

[Violet.Phoenix]

Janeway wouldn't have had all her "Coffee, black!" replicator moments.

Now there's a scary thought: Janeway sans caffeine.

 

[Captain Rob]

Don't forget. This would mean .....NO Q!

By the way without replicators, the Kazon would have killed them all in the first episode. No giant containers of water.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Too early into the 23rd century, and woman are not allowed to Captain Starships.

Janeway could be their big experiment to see if women weren't still a perilous jinx.

 

[The_Baroness]

You could still have had Q. He would have been kicking around pre-TNG after all.

You could make it so that the journey actually took 75 years. Say, Voyager goes missing in around 2298, five years after TUC, they'd re-appear in the Alpha Quadrant around the time of the Dominion War. All their first contacts would count, as Picard would have made contact with Q, or the Borg oblivious to Voyager's journey.

Voyager could be a Miranda class!

Instead of the maquis, you could have Klingons, from those uneasy early days post Khitomer.

 

[Timewalker]

Too early into the 23rd century, and woman are not allowed to Captain Starships.

Janeway could be their big experiment to see if women weren't still a perilous jinx.

Cow pies. There was a female starship captain in Star Trek IV. This "women can't be captains" nonsense was (in my interpretation) just Janice Lester's opinion. Because if she couldn't ever be a captain (or Number One, for that matter), why would either of them have been in Command School?


But if they'd done Voyager in the 23rd century, they could have done a series I REALLY wanted: Captain Sulu!

 

[Guy Gardener]

How old is Geordies mum?

Because that sure as hell looked like Silvia LaForge on the Saratoga in the Voyage Home.

1. Janice might have been dressed as a boy?
2. Starship can only mean sometimes a huge bastard like the Enterprise. there ware thousands of smaller ships in the fleet that need to be commanded.
3. Janet might have been auditing the class?
4. Erica Hernandez fell in love with an evil alien and gave him her ship, the Columbia, and the Federation almost fell... OR she lost Columbia and side stepped a Court Martial by spuriously blaming everything on her period.
5. Women can take the class, but none of them ever pass. Ever. Infirmative Action.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

*No tachyon bursts

How meaningless it would have all been!

No seriously, there would just be a different technobabble.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

How old is Geordies mum?

Because that sure as hell looked like Silvia LaForge on the Saratoga in the Voyage Home.

Its the regular thing of same actress, different character. Maybe she was Geordi's great-grandmother, and the physical similarities are just strong genetic traits passed down from generation to generation.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Anyways, I like the idea of 23rd century VOY. Their journey home always seemed far too easy, thanks to their advanced tech and of course the shuttle fairies.

Though I would love to see a Miranda-Class in action, I would probably say she was a little too big, the crew really should be around 150. The U.S.S. Voyager could be the first ship of her class, designed to trial out a renovated Transwarp Drive, when an incident causes the drive to destablise and throw them across the galaxy.

 

[Guy Gardener]

How old is Geordies mum?

Because that sure as hell looked like Silvia LaForge on the Saratoga in the Voyage Home.

Its the regular thing of same actress, different character. Maybe she was Geordi's great-grandmother, and the physical similarities are just strong genetic traits passed down from generation to generation.

If the character had a name, I'd agree with you.

But "Unnamed Starship Captain"?

C'MON!!!

They're asking to be messed with.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

How old is Geordies mum?

Because that sure as hell looked like Silvia LaForge on the Saratoga in the Voyage Home.

Its the regular thing of same actress, different character. Maybe she was Geordi's great-grandmother, and the physical similarities are just strong genetic traits passed down from generation to generation.

If the character had a name, I'd agree with you.

But "Unnamed Starship Captain"?

C'MON!!!

They're asking to be messed with.

So very true

 

[Gagarin]

I remember a Voyager concept model (maybe in the Art Of Startrek book?)...and it looked more '23rd' than '24th' in appearance. Don't know if there was ever a thought to put it before TNG in the timeline.

 

[CaptainMatt]

If they had done a VOYager series set in Kirk's timeline, it could have worked but only if it was done before TNG and all the other spinoffs. IMO.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Why would it only have worked before TNG?

 

[CaptainMatt]

I am speculating, that's all. Just think about it. A brand new series set after Kirk but without the oversaturation of TNG to get in the way. Star Trek-Voyager could have lasted longer than 7 years and had a few movies to boot!

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

OH I see, yes that is great speculation! We had TOS and now we take a crew and strand it faaaar away.. how do they fare?

 

[CaptainMatt]

Exactly. The series would be even cooler than it is now. If such a thing is possible lol. Reminds me of when they were still making TOS movies in the 80s, and there was talk of another crew and cast (before TNG). In a what might have been kind of way, VOYager could have been made then except the special effects were not as good as now.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I don't care about special effects, I'm fine with cardboard rocks.

I wonder now how the show would have been written differently if it was a response to TOS rather than all of TNG etc..

 

[CaptainMatt]

True, it might have reached even higher plateaus, and I would have tuned in from the getgo. Imagine getting a female captain of a starship after etsbalishing there could be one in STIV The Voyage Home!