I'm starting to think that every Starfleet Admiral is corrupt in one way or another. There's got to be a decent one out there, right?
Are there any good Admirals?
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Ian Keldon
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Thomas Henry, from the ep "The Drumhead" springs to mind. As well as Admiral Quinn (when not under the influence of the "bluegill" parasites.
The Federation probably has an equal opportunities quota for Starfleet to achieve relating to corrupt/crazy/delusional/conspiring admirals.
It's the only way these power mad (or just mad) people keep ending up as admirals.
It's the only way these power mad (or just mad) people keep ending up as admirals.
Admiral Alynna Nechayev wasn't corrupt in the slightest, she was simply a horrendous Bitch.
I can think of two "Good" Admirals, one died fighting the Borg, J.P. Hanson. The other is the former Captain of starship Voyager, Kathryn Janeway and you might also include Owen Paris.(That makes three, I need to learn to add!)
James
James
Considering how Janeway treated Lessing of Equinox fame, I'm not sure I'd call her "Good".
Sometimes I wonder how much of Voyager's logs Starfleet actually reviewed upon their return.
If Starfleet is like other organizations I've been a part of, the sad truth is that the farther involved you become with the organization, the harder it becomes to keep your hands clean. If politics doesn't get you, at some point harsh reality will.
Sometimes I wonder how much of Voyager's logs Starfleet actually reviewed upon their return.
If Starfleet is like other organizations I've been a part of, the sad truth is that the farther involved you become with the organization, the harder it becomes to keep your hands clean. If politics doesn't get you, at some point harsh reality will.
I always think she got a bad rep.
So she wasn't a fan of Picard, she did make it to Vice/Fleet Admiral and put in charge of several key operations, she knew how to get things done but wasn't a 'touchy feely' kind of leader.
She did her duty, kept the Federation safe, and proved to be a good foil for Picard's inflated sense of ego. So in my books she was a very good Admiral.
Ian Keldon
Fleet Captain
Hanson yes. Janeway...not in a billion years.
Then there's her murder of Tuvix w/o even a blink. Her casual acceptance of her older self's blatant violation of the Temporal Prime Directive, etc.
She should have been cashiered, not promoted.
Right, sometimes you have to be a horrendous bitch to get the job done.
Knight Templar
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The Starfleet admiral in "The Defector" and "The Wounded" seemed like a pretty good and competent man.
The "crazy admiral" is something there in Star Trek for dramatic effect much like the "incompetent security". Imagine how many Trek episodes would end quickly and quietly if security could shoot straight.
The "crazy admiral" is something there in Star Trek for dramatic effect much like the "incompetent security". Imagine how many Trek episodes would end quickly and quietly if security could shoot straight.
I doubt there's a lot of complaints about the premise itself. Virtually any military-based fiction will have someone in power go nutso. The question the OP implies though, is why there are so many in the history of Trek.
Being an Admiral just wasn't something Kirk was cut out to be, both McCoy and Spock knew it and told him.
James
James
I get the theme of having a superior abuse power for their own purposes and all that jazz. But it starts to feel like Admirals were only used for that purpose.
And I agree about the incompetent security
Then again, that goes back to "This episode would be 5 minutes long if only we'd listen to Worf" idea.
Knight Templar
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I get the theme of having a superior abuse power for their own purposes and all that jazz. But it starts to feel like Admirals were only used for that purpose.
And I agree about the incompetent security
Anyone remember "The Best of Trek" magazine years ago?
They had a short parody of a Trek episode (OS) in nearly every issue it seemed.
Finally, someone had a bunch of parody suggestions.
One was an episode where
"A mysterious disease strikes the crew, challenging Dr. McCoy to find a cure. He finds it in 5 minutes so the crew spends the next 45 minutes drinking coffee and chatting in the lounge".
I remember a suggested parody title as well:
"For the World Is Hollow and Everything Else is Boring Too".
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"Tomorrow is Payday!".
I don't know... We didn't see that much of Nechayev, but she reminds me a lot of Captain Janeway. If Voyager had been Nechayev's command, and we had a chance to see her day in and day out -- and not only when she was crushing Picard's warped sense of morality at any cost -- we would probably have a different opinion of her.
Outside of TNG, how about Adm. Ross?
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