Explain.
(2011)-2012 NBA Season
- Thread starter Alidar Jarok
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I don't care if my team 'buys' a title, as long as they get the hardware.
Odom hasn't exactly meshed in Dallas, so who knows what he would have done in LA this year under a new regime.
Just seems like a team that is aging quickly, doesn't buy into the coach, and is getting passed over by younger bloood like OKC.
Also, looks like your team got royally screwed for no reason in the CP3 trade.
I never understood the reasoning. I've been far too busy at work to ferrit it out. Why did Stern not let the Lakers have Chris Paul? I don't get it.
He'll never admit to it, but he was persuaded to kill the deal due to the opposition from small market teams, in addition to the fact he didn't want to be party to bolstering another potential banner for the Lakers. (recall, the NBA purchased the Hornets)
Also, it's purported that he wanted a show of force that ownership is the one that ultimately decides where a player is to be traded to, and that it does not have to cater to the player's interests.
Personally, I wasn't at all dismayed when I heard he kyboshed the deal.
By the way, I despise David Stern and I personally think the NBA has some significant problems that have yet to be addressed. Inconsistent refereeing continues to be an issue, and the flow of the game, if there's such a thing these days in the NBA, is too often interrupted by bogus or ticky tacky fouls.
-Jamman
AAAAAhhhh, I see. Thank you. Looking at it purely objectively, I suppose it isn't fair that he torpedoed the deal. However, looking at it selfishly, I'm with you. I'm glad Paul went to the Clippers instead of the Lakers. The NBA is so much more exciting when it isn't a given that LA or Boston will win the title every year. Looking at it from a "good for the game" point of view, Stern did the right thing.
Oh for Christ's sake, Thunder, this loss is INEXCUSABLE. 
You're up--at home--against the Houston Rockets who've dropped their last six out of seven games--you're up by 11 points with 2:20 left in the game and all of a sudden you cease playing defense of any kind.
Let the insults fly, people. I can take it. My Thunder deserve every bit of it tonight. Houston outscored the Thunder 13-1 in the last 2:20. No, I'm not making that up. The Thunder put their feet on the Rockets throat all during the 4th quarter....then quit--the Thunder who know how to close a tight game and have done so on numerous occasions this season.
The Thunder got the ball back with 15 seconds left and couldn't manage to get it to Durant. Ibaka missed an easy lay up.
However, it's Westbrook who's going to be skewered alive, no matter how magnanimous Brooks was in the post game press conference spreading the blame (not unfairly) to all the players, Durant included. Westbrook, who's gotten everything under control and been lauded for his new found maturity this season reverts back to adolescent Russell of a year ago. Screams in the face of a player who barely fouled him. He gets a technical, the Rockets make their shots, he misses his, then he turns the ball over again because he can't turn his emotions off.
PITIFUL. And none of the rest of them could play any defense either. Not in the last 2:20. They did during the rest of the quarter, but they just....stopped. Houston turned it on and didn't quit. OKC handed them the game and they rightfully took it. Houston wins 104-103 at OKC. Oh, is this ever going to be an interesting 2 days before the Thunder travels to Denver Friday night. Make no mistake, Brooks is going to have Westbrook's hyde. He's seemingly mild mannered but he's a nasty one in the locker room. The media will eat it up, that's for sure. 13-1 in the final 2:20. That's flat out embarrassing. No way to sugar coat it.
You're up--at home--against the Houston Rockets who've dropped their last six out of seven games--you're up by 11 points with 2:20 left in the game and all of a sudden you cease playing defense of any kind.
Let the insults fly, people. I can take it. My Thunder deserve every bit of it tonight. Houston outscored the Thunder 13-1 in the last 2:20. No, I'm not making that up. The Thunder put their feet on the Rockets throat all during the 4th quarter....then quit--the Thunder who know how to close a tight game and have done so on numerous occasions this season.
The Thunder got the ball back with 15 seconds left and couldn't manage to get it to Durant. Ibaka missed an easy lay up. However, it's Westbrook who's going to be skewered alive, no matter how magnanimous Brooks was in the post game press conference spreading the blame (not unfairly) to all the players, Durant included. Westbrook, who's gotten everything under control and been lauded for his new found maturity this season reverts back to adolescent Russell of a year ago. Screams in the face of a player who barely fouled him. He gets a technical, the Rockets make their shots, he misses his, then he turns the ball over again because he can't turn his emotions off.
PITIFUL. And none of the rest of them could play any defense either. Not in the last 2:20. They did during the rest of the quarter, but they just....stopped. Houston turned it on and didn't quit. OKC handed them the game and they rightfully took it. Houston wins 104-103 at OKC. Oh, is this ever going to be an interesting 2 days before the Thunder travels to Denver Friday night. Make no mistake, Brooks is going to have Westbrook's hyde. He's seemingly mild mannered but he's a nasty one in the locker room. The media will eat it up, that's for sure. 13-1 in the final 2:20. That's flat out embarrassing. No way to sugar coat it.
At first I thought you were expressing your opinion. Then when you mentioned Pau, I recalled reading quite a number of articles after the Wizards game, but I didn't read anything about Pau blaming the loss on selfishness.
Anyway, assuming the translation of the interview is accurate, the Lakers, an elite defensive team this season, gave up 106 points to one of the worst teams in the league and Pau chooses to make veiled references to his shot total. The Lakers allow a really bad team to make up a 21 point deficit in the second half and Pau thinks it was about the Lakers' offense. Sometimes even the "smart" ones are clueless. You know who Bynum blamed for the loss? Bynum.
Oh well, nothing is ever not good about beating the Celts.
Uh, yeah. This is the kind of stuff that happens sometimes when teams lose -- particularly during the regular season.Oh for Christ's sake, Thunder, this loss is INEXCUSABLE.
You're up--at home--against the Houston Rockets who've dropped their last six out of seven games--you're up by 11 points with 2:20 left in the game and all of a sudden you cease playing defense of any kind.
Let the insults fly, people. I can take it. My Thunder deserve every bit of it tonight. Houston outscored the Thunder 13-1 in the last 2:20. No, I'm not making that up.
I hate to think of how you may react if the Thunder don't win a championship this season.
I'm not expecting them to win a championship this season. If they keep progressing, they'll take the next step and reach the league championship, not just the Western finals like they did last year. Only three teams have a realistic shot--the Thunder, the Heat, and the Bulls. We don't accept mediocre performances in OKC because we know they can do better. We've seen them do better. When the stink up the floor, we can admit it. Then we'll fill up the arena for the next game. Sell out crowd tonight, as always.
Piss poor performances don't "just happen." The team allows it to happen. Complete break down in intensity and discipline tonight. If they lose the championship because they lay a turd like they did tonight, you bet I'll be livid. If they play to the best of their ability and they just get beat, then so be it. Tonight's game was not the best of their ability. It was an embarrassment they earned.
Piss poor performances don't "just happen." The team allows it to happen. Complete break down in intensity and discipline tonight. If they lose the championship because they lay a turd like they did tonight, you bet I'll be livid. If they play to the best of their ability and they just get beat, then so be it. Tonight's game was not the best of their ability. It was an embarrassment they earned.
Gotta love those New York Knicks. Now that the Clippers seem halfway respectable, someone needed to inherit the mantle of league laughingstock.
I grew up loving them in the 90s during their playoff battles against Chicago, Miami, and Indy. You couldn't get a scalped ticket to a decent game at MSG in those days. Now you couldn't pay me enough to watch a game. I'm so glad I bailed on this team years ago.
I grew up loving them in the 90s during their playoff battles against Chicago, Miami, and Indy. You couldn't get a scalped ticket to a decent game at MSG in those days. Now you couldn't pay me enough to watch a game. I'm so glad I bailed on this team years ago.
D'Antoni resigns.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/7686638/new-york-knicks-coach-mike-dantoni-resigns
-Jamman
Seems like Carmelo is working his magic at yet another team.
Is it fair to blame Carmelo, though? Weren't the Knicks on an "easier" portion of their schedule when he was out with injury? In regards to the records of the teams they faced? Or am I reading the situation wrongly?
In other news of the hyperbolic Oklahoma City Thunder circus, some of our fans are actually deluding themselves into thinking that they wouldn't have lost the game had Westbrook not gotten that "T," and even worse, that maybe the T was undeserved. I watched the game on local TV. Trust me. It was deserved.
He actually screamed at the Rockets bench before the ref whistled him for it. He screamed at Progness (sp?), then at the Rockets' players. I think the fans are so worked up because of the malaise since the All Star break. They've had to come from behind against everyone except poor pitiful Charlotte. Everyone's noticed. At the post game press conference Kevin Durant, little Mr. Goody Two Shoes who was actually given some cheesy award by the sports press last season for being the "nicest" player to deal with, snapped at the reporter interviewing him when he was asked a very specific question. It's telling, becuase it was my exact thought during the first quarter.
"What's the matter with the team, Kevin? Every game that you've started since the break, you all look bored. Are you bored?"
They did look bored. Durant told him it was a bad question. At least KD spoke with the press. Westbrook just sulked like a spoiled brat.
In other news of the hyperbolic Oklahoma City Thunder circus, some of our fans are actually deluding themselves into thinking that they wouldn't have lost the game had Westbrook not gotten that "T," and even worse, that maybe the T was undeserved. I watched the game on local TV. Trust me. It was deserved.
He actually screamed at the Rockets bench before the ref whistled him for it. He screamed at Progness (sp?), then at the Rockets' players. I think the fans are so worked up because of the malaise since the All Star break. They've had to come from behind against everyone except poor pitiful Charlotte. Everyone's noticed. At the post game press conference Kevin Durant, little Mr. Goody Two Shoes who was actually given some cheesy award by the sports press last season for being the "nicest" player to deal with, snapped at the reporter interviewing him when he was asked a very specific question. It's telling, becuase it was my exact thought during the first quarter.
"What's the matter with the team, Kevin? Every game that you've started since the break, you all look bored. Are you bored?"
They did look bored. Durant told him it was a bad question. At least KD spoke with the press. Westbrook just sulked like a spoiled brat.
This is the first step towards the Knicks' recovery. D'Antoni was one of those placeholder coaches like a Don Nelson, someone who sits at the end of the bench until you find a real coach. This team needs a strong leader, someone who can galvanize the strong personalities and talent they do have and point them in the right direction -- get them to set aside personal goals and focus on team goals.
They need Phil Jackson. He is maybe the only coach who could get Carmelo and Amare to actually play some defense and (in Amare's case) rebound.
I don't think that's going to happen for them though. Phil is 65 or 66 and in love with Jeannie Buss.
George Karl?
Well, they beat the Lakers and the Mavericks during that time.
Admittedly, the schedule was better when Anthony returned (although they played Dallas a second time), but they should at least have beaten the Bucks.
Cripes, my Thunder are stinking up the joint again tonight. Sheeeeeesh.