OT: What other franchises would you like to see the Trek authors write

[Sci]

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The absence of novels is conspicuous. The movie continuity is being furthered in comics, video games, and young adult novels, but adult novels are off the table. At times, I wonder if Margaret Clark didn't somehow poison the well with Bad Robot.

Did you seriously just impugn Margaret Clark's job performance and professionalism by speculating that she soured the relationship between S&S and Bad Robot on the basis of no particular evidence right there? Seriously?

'Cos I'm pretty sure you just did. And I find it kind of offensive.

You're right, Sci. I did impugn her professional reputation.

But I can't say that particular statement was original to me. It's not. It was something I was told. I'm just the one with the honesty to state it openly.

So, first you impugn the professional reputation of someone -- a fellow TrekBBS member, no less -- on the basis of no evidence.

Then, to defend yourself, you in essence cite "secret knowledge" by claiming that someone close to the office made that judgment but isn't honest enough to say it in public, so you will. Naturally, this is unverifiable. And there remains no evidence to support your impugning of Margaret's professionalism.

And, frankly, Allyn, I've got to ask: At what point does spreading office gossip in public, even if it is true, cease to be "honesty" and start to reflect an inability to respect confidentiality? At what point does it just mean that one is not trustworthy?

 

[Allyn Gibson]

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Sci, I sent you a private message with my source. If you believe it or not, I don't really care.

Also, I would rather be honest and hated than false and liked. I don't really care what people think of me.

And as far as I'm concerned, Margaret impugned her own professional reputation when she published Before Dishonor. It was an embarrassment to her profession that she deemed that book publishable. I wasn't sorry that she was terminated by Pocket.

 

[BrotherBenny]

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And as far as I'm concerned, Margaret impugned her own professional reputation when she published Before Dishonor. It was an embarrassment to her profession that she deemed that book publishable. I wasn't sorry that she was terminated by Pocket.

It wasn't a great book, but that was uncalled for. (I know, I know, pot meet kettle).

 

[Sci]

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And as far as I'm concerned, Margaret impugned her own professional reputation when she published Before Dishonor. It was an embarrassment to her profession that she deemed that book publishable. I wasn't sorry that she was terminated by Pocket.

Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. But if she impugns her own reputation, that's her business. It's no one else's place to be impugning her, too.

 

[Greg Cox]

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From my own perspective, the process on the (aborted) nuTrek books went fairly smoothly and was no different from any other tie-in, aside from the fact that the book was never published.

I submited a outline based on Margaret's suggestions, CBS suggested changes, I made the changes, the outline was approved, I wrote the book and delivered it to Margaret.

Same old, same old.

And I have to say that I wrote at least four books for Margaret, plus various short projects, and always found her thoroughly professional--and hardly an "embarrassment to her profession."

 

[xortex]

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At this point I think J.J. would get very angry if someone praised Trek '09.
I, for one, am happy she soured the relationship with bad reboot.

 

[JD]

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^Why would JJ be angry if someone praised his Star Trek film? I find it hard believe he hated the movie, he is coming back for the sequel after all.
And I still wouldn't say that we know for a fact that Margaret had anything to do with what happened to the Abramsverse books. And what doesn't make sense about that to is that Margaret is gone, but there is still no sign of movement on the Abramsverse adult books front. I would think if Margaret was the issue, things might have moved once she left.

 

[ronny]

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Fringe would probably be the one I would look forward to the most.

 

[nickyboy]

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And Dave Mack would be perfect for Battlestar Galactica.

I'd pay to read that.

Agreed

 

[BrotherBenny]

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Fringe would probably be the one I would look forward to the most.

Christopher would be a good match for Fringe, and the aborted Eleventh Hour.

After I've seen Person of Interest I'll make my own determination on whether such a show might be suitable for tie-ins, though I would think it could be.

 

[Christopher]

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Christopher would be a good match for Fringe...

Not really. The "science" on that show is even more painfully nonsensical than Eureka's used to be. And although I mostly like Walter Bishop as a character, I'm very uncomfortable with the drug themes.

 

[BrotherBenny]

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Christopher would be a good match for Fringe...

Not really. The "science" on that show is even more painfully nonsensical than Eureka's used to be. And although I mostly like Walter Bishop as a character, I'm very uncomfortable with the drug themes.

If you can make Star Trek's time travel work as a cohesive whole, you can make Fringe's science look better. I stopped watching Fringe when Nimoy turned up and I'm glad I did, the parallel worlds theme is boring and has been done to death.

Did you see any of the Eleventh Hour episodes, British or American?

What franchises would you like to do?

 

[Christopher]

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If you can make Star Trek's time travel work as a cohesive whole, you can make Fringe's science look better. I stopped watching Fringe when Nimoy turned up and I'm glad I did, the parallel worlds theme is boring and has been done to death.

Actually the parallel-worlds part is the one thing they've really done well. It's a lot more interesting than the X-Files-ish bizarre-thing-of-the-week formula, particularly last season when they alternated between episodes set "Over Here" and "Over There," following two parallel versions of the same set of characters on a continuing basis. That's definitely not something that's been done much before. (And I enjoyed the alternate-world team more than the main team.)

Did you see any of the Eleventh Hour episodes, British or American?

I tried a few minutes of the US version once and it bored me.

What franchises would you like to do?

I think I already addressed that above. There are a few series I'd potentially be interested in doing stuff for, but not that many. My energies outside of Trek are primarily devoted to my original writing.

 

[xortex]

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Chris, do you consider Star Trek hard science or would like it to be?

 

[WarsTrek1993]

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I'd like to resurrect this thread by saying, I'd like the following authors to write for franchises-

Greg Cox: Star Wars, Superman, Mass Effect, Halo, Transformers.

David Mack: Star Wars, Resident Evil, Terminator, Splinter Cell (He'd be great for a post-Double Agent novel, so long as it follows the original one for PS2/Xbox), 24, Iron Man.

James Swallow: Splinter Cell, James Bond, The Matrix, Terminator, Metal Gear Solid.

David R. George III: Metal Gear Solid, Terminator, Star Wars.

Dayton Ward/Kevin Dilmore: Assassin's Creed, Batman.

Christopher L. Bennett: Star Wars, Mass Effect.

 

[Greg Cox]

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I'd like to resurrect this thread by saying, I'd like the following authors to write for franchises-

Greg Cox: Star Wars, Superman, Mass Effect, Halo, Transformers.

Thanks for the endorsement. I can't resist pointing out that Superman appears prominently in three of my DC Comics novelizations: Infinite Crisis, Countdown, and Final Crisis. (He also appears briefly in 52, although the whole point of that book is that Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman are taking a year off for various reasons.)

It's funny. For a long time, Superman and I kept having near misses. I was approached about doing a Lois & Clark novel, but the timing wasn't right, then I chased after Smallville for awhile, but never landed a book deal. It wasn't until Infinite Crisis that I finally got to write the Man of Steel.

 

[WarsTrek1993]

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I hadn't heard of those books until now! Interesting!

 

[Christopher]

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Christopher L. Bennett: Star Wars, Mass Effect.

As long as I got to do something that wasn't a war story. I've read some interesting things about Mass Effect -- sounds like an intriguing universe, although I'm not much of a gamer.

I'd like to do more Spider-Man. My Spidey novel Drowned in Thunder is my weakest-selling novel to date, which saddens me, because I'm really proud of it and enjoyed doing it. I wouldn't make any more money if it sold well -- it was for a flat fee with no royalties -- but I just wish more people would read it.

It's funny. For a long time, Superman and I kept having near misses. I was approached about doing a Lois & Clark novel, but the timing wasn't right, then I chased after Smallville for awhile, but never landed a book deal.

I wonder what you would've done with Lois & Clark. I read the C. J. Cherryh novel that was nominally a L&C book, but while it was a fairly good generic Superman story, it didn't work as a Lois & Clark story, because it wasn't about Lois & Clark's relationship and didn't have the characteristic flavor and style of the show.

 

[David Mack]

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David Mack: Star Wars, Resident Evil, Terminator, Splinter Cell (He'd be great for a post-Double Agent novel, so long as it follows the original one for PS2/Xbox), 24, Iron Man.

I've actually tried to get on the radar of the editors for the Star Wars novels, to no avail. I also really wanted to do novels for Splinter Cell (I was a big fan of the PS2 and PS3 versions of the game) and 24.

I would also have jumped at a chance to write tie-ins for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles and the new feature-film version of Iron Man, as well as Battlestar Galactica, Leverage, Eureka, and Warehouse 13. But they all "went another way."

 

[WarsTrek1993]

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Mr. Mack, that's a real shame, because you'd do an impressive job with SC and the Terminator series.