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"John Carter of Mars" Moving Ahead!

I think that has less to do with Disney and more to do with the people involed in making Tron: Legacy (namely the writers and director) being tied up with other projects. Actual filming may not begin until 2014, IIRC.
Bummer. I enjoyed this 2-hour music video more than I ever thought I would.
It's no more a 2-hour music video than any other film that has a soundtrack scored by anyone not John Williams.
I'd really like to see a sequel.
I think a sequel is all but officially confirmed--a new screenwriter was hired when the original writers for Legacy dropped out to do Once Upon A Time. I don't think we'll hear the official word until there's a script that meets Disney's approval and the director is free from his current projects.
 
For the 2d version, our cinema was absolutely packed out. I wasn't expecting that given the reviews.

I thought it was fun though.
 
I thought it was decent. I went in telling myself this is a Disney adventure film based on A Princess of Mars and to accept it for what it actually is and not just for what I want it to be.

I think they really went all out when it came to FX and spectacle and in the end I think the positives outweigh the bad (I'd like more Tars/Sola and thought the monk baddies were a bit cliche/overdone).

I think my 10-year-old self would've died seeing this, it is really amazing what they can do in movies these days.
 
It's no more a 2-hour music video than any other film that has a soundtrack scored by anyone not John Williams.
I'm not sure what you're saying here, but I might as well clarify what I meant. Tron: Legacy is a movie with a very simple, linear plot which requires 0 mental effort, striking visuals, great, beautifully choreographed action sequences and amazing score by Daft Punk which I've listened through more times than I can count.
 
I've never read the novel or any in the John Carter series. I have read some comic adaptations, especially the recent Dynamite issues over the last year. So, my take is not that of a die hard. The movie I saw had many themes I recall from the comic versions I've read. Therefore I was entertained and enjoyed it quite a bit.

I'd give it a solid B for story and an A- for effects.

Thought it drug out a bit in the middle but well worth the money to see it in the theater. I think if you wait to see this at home, even if you have a 60" flat panel your not going to get the same effect. I can see the $250m in this movie at least. It's one of the more expensive film budgets that I've heard in some time.

My theater on Sat night was about 80% full and there were good reactions in all the right spots.

I'm going to read the novel now at some point.

See this in the theater.
 
Tron: Legacy is a movie with a very simple, linear plot which requires 0 mental effort, striking visuals, great, beautifully choreographed action sequences and amazing score by Daft Punk which I've listened through more times than I can count.

Sometimes simple and linear plots are a good thing. ANH has one of the most linear plots around and works because of it. Many Sci-Fi movies these days fall apart since they try to be too complex and end up becoming a bloated mess.
 
Sometimes simple and linear plots are a good thing.
Agreed completely.

ANH has one of the most linear plots around and works because of it.
It still has more layers than Legacy, though. Not that Legacy doesn't work, BTW. It really does.

Many Sci-Fi movies these days fall apart since they try to be too complex and end up becoming a bloated mess.
Which ones do you mean?
 
I've read many reviews about John Carter saying how confusing it is at times with all the alien culture and many characters. That might have turned off some of the audience.
 
article about performance and marketing

I came across a great article about the performance of this film and the marketing:
a 300 screen limited release that’s just the sort of film that would have been a wide release/mainstream picture just a few years ago.
the film debuted with just $30.6 million.
The film did an uncommonly large 64% of its business via its 3D screens, plus 16% from IMAX.

Years from now, marketing schools will teach John Carter as an example of where the Disney team did everything wrong, at least in America.

Oops John Carter Bombs. What happened?

lot's of things in this article. very interesting. like
the film contains one of the most fleshed out and interesting female-leads in recent fantasy film history, but the marketing campaign sold Lynn Collins as damsel-in-distress boy-bait who throws a girl-power punch or two in the action.
 
I read the book immediately before seeing the film. I really liked the movie, but it was a bit... overdrawn in places, with the invented character melodrama and so on. Still, it was visually spectacular and looked like it cost $250 million to make... which it did, apparently! The CGI looks absolutely realistic and physically solid, particularly the Green Martians. Extremely impressive.

I think if they had cut the running time down a bit, and maybe get to Mars a little sooner, it might have found more mainstream success.

Having only read the first novel... are the holy men / angel stuff from a later book, I presume?

I see people upthread talking about Tron Legacy... I definitely liked Tron Legacy more. That had very few negatives for me.
 
I read the book immediately before seeing the film. I really liked the movie, but it was a bit... overdrawn in places, with the invented character melodrama and so on. Still, it was visually spectacular and looked like it cost $250 million to make... which it did, apparently! The CGI looks absolutely realistic and physically solid, particularly the Green Martians. Extremely impressive.

I think if they had cut the running time down a bit, and maybe get to Mars a little sooner, it might have found more mainstream success.

Having only read the first novel... are the holy men / angel stuff from a later book, I presume?

The white martians (Tharns) are from the Gods of Mars.
This movie is a combination of Princess of Mars, Warlord of Mars and Gods of Mars.
 
I've read many reviews about John Carter saying how confusing it is at times with all the alien culture and many characters. That might have turned off some of the audience.
It's also nonsense. It's not at all confusing unless someone assumes audiences are generally idiots.
 
Yeah, I don't get all of the complaints about it being confusing. As long as you can see red and blue, and tell the difference between non-humanoid aliens and humanoid aliens I don't see where it's confusing at all.
 
I caught it at a matinee today - and I had a really good time. I've been a fan of the books since I was 14 (37 years ago), and I was very happy with the results. My wife had no previous knowledge of the books and she loved it - especially Sola and Woola.
 
Went and seen it with the wife and we both enjoyed it. Only about fifteen other people in the theater though...
 
I saw it in a pretty full theater today - at 3pm. (2D version)

I really liked it. My grade would be between A- and B+, probably leaning towards an A-.

The biggest problem was that the opening and ending had some pacing issues. But I'll go again, and this time take my kids.
 
Different folks have different perspectives. I thought the pacing was fine throughout. It wasn't (thankfully) relentlessly fast throughout neither did it get bogged bogged down. It was well measured overall.

Also no shaky-cam, no lens flares, no constant wise-cracking and pervasive sarcasm and no overriding cynicism.

...Hell, no wonder many think it'll bomb.
 
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