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Murder of TNG?

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In the nearly two decades since the death of TNG, few TV shows have approached it for logic, acting and writing. There has probably never been a duo with such an interesting dynamic as that between Picard and Data, portrayed by actors as skilled as Stewart and Spiner.

I think you may not have watched much TV in that case. Londo and G'Kar. Ben and Locke. Angel and Spike. There are more.

(no, the spinoffs are not ST, give me a break).

You have a very exclusionary mindset, talking about what isn't. Sooner later you'll realize how much you're limiting yourself by doing that. There's little enough science fiction on TV that dismissing anything out of hand is a mistake.

Just so you know, there's a strong plurality on this board---perhaps even a majority---that considers Deep Space Nine to be the strongest of the Star Trek series in terms of writing. But what's even better is this board doesn't stop there. We can have lively and entertaining threads about Stargate, Babylon 5, Battlestar, Lost, Star Wars.....just about anything, really. (Except Andromeda. Andromeda sucks.)

And here you are, locking yourself into a TNG-only corner. Don't get me wrong, it was a good show, but it's only the beginning.
 
Fixed that for ya. ;)

Even I wouldn't be that harsh. There were some really good episodes in both season five and six. Both "The First Duty" and "The Inner Light" were/are classics.

I can go either way on The First Duty, but The Inner Light is the cure for insomnia.

This was the point I made on "The Royale" thread, in that fans often disagree on the worth of particular episodes with no detriment to the fans. I thought "The Royale" was a terrible episode, but there are those who liked it. I thought "The Inner Light" was a classic, you don't.

It is just the way of things.
 
Even I wouldn't be that harsh. There were some really good episodes in both season five and six. Both "The First Duty" and "The Inner Light" were/are classics.

I can go either way on The First Duty, but The Inner Light is the cure for insomnia.

This was the point I made on "The Royale" thread, in that fans often disagree on the worth of particular episodes with no detriment to the fans. I thought "The Royale" was a terrible episode, but there are those who liked it. I thought "The Inner Light" was a classic, you don't.

It is just the way of things.

I love The Royale! :D
 
Patrick Stewarts done nothing of note since....


riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

:rommie:

I'm actually guessing he made more money as Professor X than Picard, but I have no stats to back that up.

The law of diminishing returns. TNG cost more and more to make yet the revenue generated wasn't keeping up.

Yup.

Consider long-running shows like "Friends", "Cheers" and "Frasier". Half-hour comedies with no special effects, no latex makeups, off-the rack clothing (no original costuming), no unusual set furnishings. They were able to stay afloat those extra years paying gigantic actor salaries.

Yup. Yup.

This thread has to win the much-coveted "Most Dramatic Title of the Year" award.

:rommie:
 
TNG was starting to linger off in 6th season--it was getting pretty tame at that point.

The characters seemed tired, the background music seemed the same.

I understand the ratings were great, but how many more telepathic invasion, 'the ship's computer is alive/infected' episodes would we have to watch?
 
I thought Stewart was perfect as Professor X. I just didn't like the way he was so easily taken out or neutralized by the bad guys.
 
That's the way he is in the comics too. He's too powerful of a character if he's not continually sidelined
 
I thought Stewart was perfect as Professor X. I just didn't like the way he was so easily taken out or neutralized by the bad guys.

Sure, I thought he made a good Professor X too, but I maintain that the idea that ANYTHING is as good as Star Trek (with the possible exception of Babylon 5) is laughable.

I can't help it. I'm just that partial to the Star Trek franchise.
 
Be grateful you got 7 full seasons from it. It's almost unheard of for an American sci-fi series to be produced for that long, mainly due to budgetary reasons, & I suspect it was a testament to Trekkie support that DS9 & Voyager reached that mark too. I seem to recall the 1st & last Trek shows never even got lucky enough to make that mark

Can anybody even think of any sci-fi shows that surpassed that mark, besides X-Files' 9 seasons (Which all but lost one of its mere two principle characters toward the end) and Stargate's 10 seasons (Which had to find a new network during its time)?

Hell, what was arguably the biggest sci-fi series in the new millennium "Lost" only managed 6 seasons, & it got whittled down to abridged seasons in its final years, & most of that show was shot on an island, which minimized the FX budget

Paying them bloody actors gets expensive, when the renegotiations happen
 
Well the show was ended to make the movies. Most of the stars were not happy about them ending it after 7 years while the show was still going so strong popularity wise. I remember reading an interview/report from the TNG set during the last days of filming and Frakes being particularly upset/annoyed about TNG being effectively canceled, he didn't understand why. Personally it doesn't bother me that much since they were clearly running out of ideas in that final season with what to do with that group of people and the flagship of the Federation. By no means do I feel that the spin-offs were "terrible". DS9 exceeded TNG, and VOY came to be just as good as TNG was in its 6th/7th seasons.
 
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