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NX to Kelvin

Burke

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Has anybody ever seen, in their internet travles, andy designs ranging from the NX to Kelvin era? So far Ive seen very little NX era period, compaired to the TOS, TMP and future eras. Im just curious if anybody has found any or plan any cool designs. Id love to see them.
 
Has anybody ever seen, in their internet travles, andy designs ranging from the NX to Kelvin era? So far Ive seen very little NX era period, compaired to the TOS, TMP and future eras. Im just curious if anybody has found any or plan any cool designs. Id love to see them.

The two are in different design universes, even though they are technically from the same time line. I do not think that there is a really a valuable "missing link" ship between the two.
 
Now a Kelvin (or Baton Rouge) type saucer would look nice on the NX-refit's secondary hull. That secondary hull looks a little small under the NX, but would look nice under a scaled down Kelvin saucer. Keep the NX-01 nacelles and the nacelle height, so as to have a low saucer and very high nacelles.
 
Has anybody ever seen, in their internet travles, andy designs ranging from the NX to Kelvin era? So far Ive seen very little NX era period, compaired to the TOS, TMP and future eras. Im just curious if anybody has found any or plan any cool designs. Id love to see them.

The two are in different design universes, even though they are technically from the same time line. I do not think that there is a really a valuable "missing link" ship between the two.

There also doesn't have to be "one" missing link. There's about 100 years between NX/ENT and NuTrek. I seriously doubt they would have come up with only one new ship design in that time.
 
Has anybody ever seen, in their internet travles, andy designs ranging from the NX to Kelvin era? So far Ive seen very little NX era period, compaired to the TOS, TMP and future eras. Im just curious if anybody has found any or plan any cool designs. Id love to see them.

The two are in different design universes, even though they are technically from the same time line. I do not think that there is a really a valuable "missing link" ship between the two.

There also doesn't have to be "one" missing link. There's about 100 years between NX/ENT and NuTrek. I seriously doubt they would have come up with only one new ship design in that time.

But what would be the value of the exercise?

Simply morph the saucer and cylinder shapes of the NX-01 so as to partially look like the saucer and cylinder shapes of the Kelvin.
 
So that's a no. Lol. I didn't think there were any designs out here but thought it would be nice to check. It would be interesting to see tho.
 
The two are in different design universes, even though they are technically from the same time line. I do not think that there is a really a valuable "missing link" ship between the two.

There also doesn't have to be "one" missing link. There's about 100 years between NX/ENT and NuTrek. I seriously doubt they would have come up with only one new ship design in that time.

But what would be the value of the exercise?

Simply morph the saucer and cylinder shapes of the NX-01 so as to partially look like the saucer and cylinder shapes of the Kelvin.

To show an actual progression of technology and design. Making a literal blend/hybrid of two knowns isn't very creative or believable.
 
the universes is unknown but full of imagination.
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Madmans ships are great but they are more or less focused in the JJ Trek era.
 
Yep, they really belong right in between the time jump during the movie. It might be neat to do something along these lines someday, though. :)
 
I'm looking for designs that show a link from the nx01 era to the jj trek era. Instead of NX era to TOS Era (or just mostly pre TOS era which is whats out there) which is already very prevalent. The jj trek era is very different than the TOS era.


The way I figure the difference is that Cochrane saw the Enterprise E and realized how big she was. He then pushed for ships in the future to be larger than they would have been in Pre-First Contact history. Therefore creating an alternate reality. It also explains why the NX01 is as large as she is.
 
Has anybody ever seen, in their internet travles, andy designs ranging from the NX to Kelvin era? So far Ive seen very little NX era period, compaired to the TOS, TMP and future eras. Im just curious if anybody has found any or plan any cool designs. Id love to see them.

The two are in different design universes, even though they are technically from the same time line. I do not think that there is a really a valuable "missing link" ship between the two.

The "design universes" are really no different than the change between the TOS Enterprise and the TMP Enterprise. Sure, they don't quite look the same, but there are several Starfleet vessel designs (some of them contemporaries to each other) that look completely different from each other. However, I mostly agree that there really isn't a missing link between the two designs (i.e. nobody went, "Hey, let's make the Kelvin a direct descendant of the NX.")

The only similarity of note are the hidden phaser cannons that emerge from the saucer, which the NX had as well.

The way I figure the difference is that Cochrane saw the Enterprise E and realized how big she was. He then pushed for ships in the future to be larger than they would have been in Pre-First Contact history. Therefore creating an alternate reality. It also explains why the NX01 is as large as she is.

Why do you need a reason why Starfleet's ships from the 2230's were much bigger than the TOS Enterprise? They just were. The Enterprise-D was a much larger starship than the U.S.S. Voyager, but Voyager was newer. It's the same concept.
 
The only similarity of note are the hidden phaser cannons that emerge from the saucer, which the NX had as well.
And, apparently, the TOS ship.

Or at least there were no external signs of guns, unless they fired, at which point weapons glare prevented us from seeing what was happening. Until the new effects from the ENT Mirror Universe episode, where we saw that turrets indeed pop up from the TOS ship (or her sister Defiant, at any rate) to enable the firing of phasers.

http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/4x19/inamirrordarkly2_047.jpg

http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/4x19/inamirrordarkly2_049.jpg

We didn't really see those small, dark pimples "pop up" or "retract" at any point, but since they aren't visible on ships of this sort in the normal case, the logical conclusion is that they were extended for firing in the scenes above. :vulcan:

Timo Saloniemi
 
I don't need a reason, it's just nice to justify to myself the reason for the changes.

I like how the endevour and phase 2 designs linked the TOS and TMP eras together. I was hoping to find some designs linking ENT and Kelvin. I really like the other ships, specifically the nacelles, of the new movie.
 
I don't need a reason, it's just nice to justify to myself the reason for the changes.

I like how the endevour and phase 2 designs linked the TOS and TMP eras together. I was hoping to find some designs linking ENT and Kelvin. I really like the other ships, specifically the nacelles, of the new movie.

It's easier to get from TOS to P2/Endeavor to TMP because the Refit started out as the P2/End design AND because "in universe" there's only 2 or 3 years between each one, not 100.

Put it another way - find a single car that's a direct evolution from a Model T to a Corvette. That's essentially what you're looking for here.
 
Oh, Im not looking for one model, Im looking for models of the evolution :) The more the better.
 
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