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What are your gas prices?

$7.86USD a gallon (US)

14.53 SEK is $2.08USD a liter.

And I really shouldn't be driving this thing on 95 octane. 98 on a bare minimum.
 
At my nearest gas station:
1,469/L Regular
1,449/L Diesel

I want American prices :(

I don't. Gas prices can't be high enough as far as I'm concerned, encourages people to use alternative transportation instead of stinking up the city. :)
 
I don't. Gas prices can't be high enough as far as I'm concerned, encourages people to use alternative transportation instead of stinking up the city. :)

Bollocks... Some people need their cars. Imagine that. Not everyone has a bus stop every 20 meters. Get you head out of the clouds, mate. It doesn't work that way.
 
But many people don't need their car and they might think twice if a litre costs 5€ or 10€...

Besides, car owners are leeches on society anyway, with double or triple the gas tax they would pay a fairer share of the costs they inflict on the tax payer.
 
How are we leeches on society? When we pay Road Fund Licence, Insurance (which is taxed) we're taxed when we buy our cars, we're taxed something like 80% after paying 20% VAT on the fuel we put in...

Yeah, I think I can live with being a "leech" and I'll keep on clip clopping over your bridge
 
None of those taxes combined come even close to covering the enormous price of maintaining a modern highway system. And that's not even starting on the environmental and health costs inflicted by the exhaust fumes of all those internal combustion engines.

eta: also think about how much all that real-estate is worth in eg. central London that's occupied by parking cars...
 
But many people don't need their car and they might think twice if a litre costs 5€ or 10€...

Besides, car owners are leeches on society anyway, with double or triple the gas tax they would pay a fairer share of the costs they inflict on the tax payer.

Alright, I'll bite. I honestly want to hear your explanation, because that must be the most ridiculous thing I've heard. I wanna know if it has any merit. We're already paying double the base price in taxes and road tax has doubled since the 90's. What more do you want? Bloody hell, we pay taxes on the taxes...

And every other alternative, (ie. Bio diesel, ethanol e85) is even more expensive. I might not look that on paper but in reality, it is. I've owned petrol, diesel and E85 fueled cars. Well more precisely one car that ran all those. But you get the picture.
 
None of those taxes combined come even close to covering the enormous price of maintaining a modern highway system. And that's not even starting on the environmental and health costs inflicted by the exhaust fumes of all those internal combustion engines.

eta: also think about how much all that real-estate is worth in eg. central London that's occupied by parking cars...

Which could be so much more usefully filled with what? Even more buildings? Cram even more people into our nations desperately overpopulated capital?

And you're right they don't, and taxes from smoking don't go nearly all the way to covering the cost of the NHS...there's only two things in the country that actually raise the same amount of money that matches its operating costs - the BBC and the monarchy!

It's called shared responsibility, it means our taxes all get put into a big pot and then dolled out to whatever the chancellor decides! If you don't like it, there's a door at Dover - you can leave on the train - provided you're alright using the I don't particularly like that my national insurance contributions are propping up this generation of retirees, with no guarantee that the next generation will prop me up, but it doesn't stop me paying them and I've never suggested mass euthenasia of anyone over 66...
 
Alright, I'll bite. I honestly want to hear your explanation, because that must be the most ridiculous thing I've heard. I wanna know if it has any merit. We're already paying double the base price in taxes and road tax has doubled since the 90's. What more do you want? Bloody hell, we pay taxes on the taxes...

Can't find any studies spontaneously, which I guess, doesn't make my point any more credible. ;)
I don't want to waste too much time researching this at work though, maybe when I come home I'll look again.

And every other alternative, (ie. Bio diesel, ethanol e85) is even more expensive. I might not look that on paper but in reality, it is. I've owned petrol, diesel and E85 fueled cars. Well more precisely one car that ran all those. But you get the picture.

Oh, I agree with that. Bio-diesel is complete nonsense imo, except if you look at it from a supply-point of view.

Which could be so much more usefully filled with what? Even more buildings? Cram even more people into our nations desperately overpopulated capital?

How about a couple trees maybe? Or wider sidewalks?

[...]shared responsibility[...]

That's a powerful argument, and I don't mind paying for things like good public schools or hospitals, despite me not having kids or ever having been sick. But I don't think subsidising individual transportation by car is a terribly good investment for a country.
 
You're not subsidising individual transport - you're contributing to "Mass" transport, which is always going to be necessary!
 
Prices are variable in New Jersey, it seems. Near Newark, you can pay as low as $3.379 a gallon. But Madison (which is about 30 miles west of Newark), it's $3.599. I believe there are higher taxes out that way, hence the price difference.
 
I just returned from Grand Cayman, where the prices were around $5.45 per gallon for Regular. And I suspect (though I'm not sure) that was CI, meaning it would be more like $6.80/gal in USD....
 
For diesel, it's between GBP1.429 and 1.469 per litre (depending on which station).

If I don't have to use my car, I don't but for my job, it I were to use public transport, I'd have to make a few changes along the way so travel time would be at least doubled (by bus) and even more so by train.
 
If I used public transportation to get to work, my commute would take me over an hour instead of the 15 minutes it takes me to drive myself. No thanks!
 
If I used public transportation to get to work, my commute would take me over an hour instead of the 15 minutes it takes me to drive myself. No thanks!
If I used public transportation I'd have to wait for 4 hours after work for the first bus of the day, I think I'll drive myself.
 
If I used public transportation to get to work, my commute would take me over an hour instead of the 15 minutes it takes me to drive myself. No thanks!
If I used public transportation I'd have to wait for 4 hours after work for the first bus of the day, I think I'll drive myself.

My girlfriend has a single bus route where she lives. And it stops at her place three times every day. 8.01am, 4.01 pm and 11.01pm. Now try that without a car. And since i more or less moved in with her, this goes for me too.
 
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