Anakin had all the social skills of an addicted online gamer who lives in their parents' basement. A stalker? Not really. But he wasn't exactly displaying a skilled pimp hand when it came to Padme.
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oh yeah. That relationship worked because of Hayden's looks. If he looked more like "Superbad"-era Jonah Hill, Padme wasn't giving him the time of day.
Moral of the story seemed to be that if you are a good-looking guy, charm, intelligence, and a sense of humor are luxuries.
One could always chalk up some of his inadequate social skills to having been born and raised as a slave on a backwater desert planet and then spending ten years in the Jedi Order away from most if not all romantic influences during puberty, but even then Anakin was clumsier than he should have been for a Jedi Padawan so strong and gifted with the Force. I was notorious for being awkward and clumsy when it came to the opposite sex during junior high and high school but I looked like Tony Montana or Don Juan compared to Anakin Skywalker. 
Vader didn't have a need for women. First, the Dark Side supplied him with everything he needed for sustainance. Second, his genitals had been burned off on Mustafar. Cybernetic Sith Lords have as much use for gorgeous, buxom ladies as a Justin Bieber fan has for basic taste. 
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The same can be said for Padme. What does she have besides her looks?
I find Padme as interesting as a block of wood. Anakin could do way better.
At least Padme seems to be a kind and compassionate person who has sensible political ideals.
Anakin is an arrogant jerk who openly supports fascism.
Anakin started falling to the Dark Side pretty early. He was too rigidly attached to his mother. Once he was separated from her and thrust into the life of a Jedi trainee a lot of his darker and more destructive emotions started bubbling to the surface as he tried to carve out a place for himself in a galaxy that he never completely understood or accepted. His seemingly endless supply of fears and insecurities helped doom him from an early age.
Damn, Mama Boys...take 'em away from Mommy and they take over the galaxy and murder kids. Freaks! Mamas don't let your boys grow up to be mass murderers.
Anakin could have had a country-western song written about him. Mind you, he'd have ruthlessly slaughtered the writer and the performer...but...still.
What if Leia, Luke and Han Solo were ugly? You can repeat that argument for every movie ever made.
Hell, every woman James T. Kirk fell in love with(or at the very least nailed) was very good looking. And at the time of most of his relationships and dalliances, Kirk himself was considered something of a stud and a ladies' man. The phenomenon happens across franchises and all different types of film and TV show.
First off, Anakin hadn't seen her since he was 9, and then only briefly. Being in love with someone under those circumstances is either crazy, or hackneyed screen writing.
Sounds like what he did to me.
The simple fact that Padme turned off her security cameras because she didn't want Anakin watching her sleep should send up red flags!
Which more or less puts a bullet in the idea that he was "seduced" by the dark side.
Yeah, I always wondered about the security camera situation too. I just assumed Padme didn't want ANYONE watching her sleep in her nightgown, but realizing what a powerful crush and attachment Anakin had for her she probably didn't feel comfortable with him in particular. If you remember the second film she didn't grow accustomed to and comfortable with Anakin's feelings until much later in the movie...well after she had gone back to Naboo and even after the two of them had been captured on Geonosis. This early on she probably felt kind of creeped out by Anakin's comments and body language but didn't want to say anything to be nice and because of what Anakin did as a little boy to help save her planet.
TremblingBluStar said:
They must have made a lot of changes to the Blu-ray, then. In the version that I saw, there wasn't any similarity to that example.
Of course, I suppose it's possible that the "fan stalked the actor" scenario is a bit more complicated than it seems at first glance. I mean, it's possible that the fan actually knew the actor they were stalking, as opposed to the typical scenario of being, you know, a fan looking at an image on a television. And I guess it's possible that the fan had been said actor's friend, had been personally comforted by said actor, and had actually personally saved the actor's home country from invasion. Oh, and lest we forget, the fan had been personally assigned to the actor's security detail by his/her employers and had no personal choice in the matter. Yeah, that sounds exactly like what the dictionary definition is getting at. Not too much of a stretch. Not when we're damning Lucas, at any rate. Scorched earth and all that.
Then again, it's also possible you've bought into radical feminist ideology so completely that you've lost touch with reality.
It's painfully obvious that Anakin viewed Padme as a replacement for his mother, even before Shmi died at the hands of the Sand People. He spent ten years on Coruscant without a positive female role model(unless you count the female Jedi at the Temple like senior archivist Jocasta Nu) and had always pined for Padme dating back to their very first encounters during the Naboo Crisis. Anakin was a socially inept and maladjusted young man rife with fear and anger issues and he saw Padme as not only a potential lover and companion but as that one guiding light in his life that he had been lacking ever since he left Shmi on Tatooine...the one person who could "make things right." At best/most, Obi-Wan was a stern father figure and a good male friend, but that wasn't enough as Anakin reached adulthood. It didn't help matters that he had all the romantic experience and moves of a roll of Necco Wafers.
not really. A lot of movies actually bother to have the couple have shared interests, values, or compatible personalities. Anakin and Padme seemed to have nothing in common other than their past experience in TPM and their mutual hotness.
Lucas would say that the Force drew them together because of Anakin's destiny as the Chosen One and the father of Luke and Leia, but I wonder how many people would actually buy that explanation. Lucas veers back and forth between the whole "free will" and "predestination/destiny" thing so much it's a wonder HE knows what the hell his characters were meant to be or do.
cooleddie74 said:
He really doesn't. It's the fans that are hung up on predestination and seek to expunge free will. He said you have the choice to follow your "destiny", or not. Thus if you don't make the necessary choice, it doesn't get fulfilled. It's not an automatic thing. Destiny is also in the eye of the beholder. Vader's idea of Luke's "destiny" was not what the Jedi had in mind. It was Luke becoming a darksider.
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