Best two part episode ever
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The best of both worlds
1. The Killing Game
2. Past Tense
3. The Menagerie
4. Babel One/United/The Aenar
5. Workforce
I won't pretend that "The Killing Game," my favorite, is the best written, and goodness knows the whole Nazi trope has been way overdone (even in Trek, cf. "Patterns of Force" and "Storm Front"). But for some reason, this is my favorite of all of them, perhaps because it spends so much time on character development.
I was okay with BoBW but it also seemed a little over the top to me, and while Demons/Terra Prime was beautifully done, nothing can get around that enormous plot hole smack dab in the middle of it.
2. Past Tense
3. The Menagerie
4. Babel One/United/The Aenar
5. Workforce
I won't pretend that "The Killing Game," my favorite, is the best written, and goodness knows the whole Nazi trope has been way overdone (even in Trek, cf. "Patterns of Force" and "Storm Front"). But for some reason, this is my favorite of all of them, perhaps because it spends so much time on character development.
I was okay with BoBW but it also seemed a little over the top to me, and while Demons/Terra Prime was beautifully done, nothing can get around that enormous plot hole smack dab in the middle of it.
^ I still don't understand why that one is even a two-parter. The Worf material could have easily been condensed into one episode and the Data material could have been expanded into its own episode.
yeah, agreed. The whole thing is very padded. Part 2 seems very slow to me for that reason.
"Flesh and Blood" was pretty poor in my eyes too, the Doctor was becoming insufferable at that point, its like he wasn't gonna be happy until everyone on the ship was his slave. And how were the Hirogen so damned far from where we first saw them?
The Hirogen are spread throughout the Delta Quadrant. There was a referance to Voyager passing a Hunting party as recentally as season 6 so to meet up with them in season 7 isn't too much of a stretch.
My favorites include Time's Arrow, Gambit, Past Tense, Homefront/ Paradise Lost, What You Leave Behind, and Basics.
I haven't seen ENT, and I'm only two seasons into Voyager, so I can't comment on any of the other VOY two-parters.
I haven't seen ENT, and I'm only two seasons into Voyager, so I can't comment on any of the other VOY two-parters.
Its a stretch to me, I don't buy that there were decent enough concentrations of Hirogen 30, 000 lightyears after last saw them or that the technology was able to travel that far either.
Well, that argument has an obvious counter-agrument that since the Hirogen didn't know what Starfleet was they probably didn't have much of a presence in the Alpha Quadrant.
Although, for what it's worth, one of the early DS9 relaunch novels (Section 31 Abyss) features Dr. Bashir and an Section 31 agent discussing threats to the Federation, and based on what's known from the Pathfinder reports, they name the Hirogen as one of the Delta Quadrant's most serious threats to the Federation.
No, they weren't built by the Hirogen, the Hirogen were simply able to use pre-existing technology. Besides, the network was basically destroyed so I don't see any convincing explanation for how the holo-technology managed to be disseminated 30, 000 lightyears in 3 years
QFT.
BOBW TNG end of story !!! Mr worf FIRE !!!!
The Menagerie by a mile. Television at its best.
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