Ideas for my Trek/Dr. Who Crossover
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Any chance I can see those Mars pics you were talking about, Castellan? 
Another shot I played about with, plus it also shows off a possible design for 1st Officer Zeg's outer casing.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/Action2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/Action2.jpg
Any chance I can see those Mars pics you were talking about, Castellan?
You show promise.
They should be in your in box, now. 
I think the hairs on the back of your neck will stand up once you've seen the images.
Nice one!
All the outfits are tasteful.
If I go TNG, I might go post Nemesis, and use something that is less military. The Dalek was made by Mechmaster, who has a CG Dalek comic called Second Empire.As for the Mars items, check it out. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/pages/richard-c-hoagland-images If that does not scream artificiality, then you are not listening.
Here's another one, experimenting with uniforms, still. If I go TNG, it's going to be after Nemesis, and after Romulas was scragged.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/Action3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/Action3.jpg
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As for the Mars items, check it out. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/pages/richard-c-hoagland-images If that does not scream artificiality, then you are not listening.
Interesting. I don't know about this dude's claim of arcology, but those parallel structures in the upper left of the image are certainly interesting. I'd like to hear a real scientist's explanation. Structures like that formed by natural forces rolling dice wold be rare indeed.
--Alex
Why is he a 'nutjob'? I completely disagree with yas. In fact, I find most of NASA to be the 'nutjobs', especially considering the fact that recently the government said they have no knowledge on UFO stuff, yet millitary folks were openly discussing and admitting to UFO's turning off their missile silos when they appeared. And seeming how Hoagland's book, Darkmission, was a New York Times best seller, and that Coast to Coast AM is one of the most popular late night radio show, I say that us 'nutjobs' could be quite possibly doing something right, considering that more people now openly discuss this issue and take it seriously....well, maybe not this site, but in general.
Albertese, I consider him a scientific guy, and he's got the math and science to back up his stuff, hell, I wish I had this guy as a teacher(Plus the Russian media LOVES his research, when he does press conferences there's tons of Russian, as well as other foreign media, though the American media either ignores him or just pokes fun at him) as well as most 'real scientists' will often rather bite off their own tongues and swallow them than admit being wrong....like with that time of those under water ruins near Japan. Hell, I dealt with that in my physics class in school, years ago, when I was trying to show the teacher both the flaws in Einstein's and Newton's works, and about free energy, when the teacher did not even bother to look at the papers I put to gather for him to read, he just tore up the papers and threw them in the garbage, in front of everyone in class, mind you, without even reading them. Let's just say that after that day, at the risk of some folks shouting the over used "tin foil hat!" at me, I've realized a large majority of mainstream scientists are more arrogant that rock stars and politicians. I encourage out of the box thinking and I do all my own research on stuff, especially once I've looked at something like this. Most people seem to prefer listening to someone in authority for answers, rather than making their own conclusions with the evidence in front of their own eyes.
So, as I apparently just given some of you folks merely something amusing as opposed to something that could be really special and could change the way the mainstream thinks (I know, that's just horrible, ain't it?), I'll have some more CGI's put up later.
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Oh yeah, selling lots of copies is great. That's why Transformers is such a better movie than 2001: A Space Odyssey 
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Let me tell you something. Skepticism is the basis of the modern scientific method. To abandon skepticism leaves the door wide open for crazies like Earth Cube and Intelligent Design, and all the "I'm Not A Specialist In Archeology and Underestimate The Skills of Ancient Man Because He Didn't Have Smartphones, therefore Ancient Aliens did it" people.
In modern science, if someone can prove the "mainstream" ( ) wrong, it's not something to be avoided. Hell, most legitimate researchers would love it because science is all about the pursuit of knowledge. That, and the buttloads of prestige and money. The competitive nature of "mainstream" science means that if someone IS wrong, there is a pack of young (CREDIBLE) people eager to exploit that.
To put it simply, the fact that not many credible researchers have openly supported Hoagland and others is telling: there simply isn't enough evidence for any person practicing the scientific method to say "yes there is/was alien life on Mars that built things". Science is not about taking a picture and saying "that look like blah" and being done with it. It is about intense study, and it is about being impartial. One cannot start with an idea and cherrypick facts to support a conclusion. That is not science.
Great work mentioning the Japan anomaly, because it's totally irrelevant to Mars, and therefore the topic you were discussing. It would be relevant if there were some massive "science illuminati", but that's paranoid superstition.
Speaking of superstition, alien life has become a new form of explanatory narrative, replacing "spirits did it". When I see someone on the History Channel saying "I don't know exactly how this was built, therefore aliens", I hear an echo of "I don't know how these stones were placed here, therefore the spirits did it". There's no peer review, and no skepticism, except for someone saying "this looks like blah" and a bunch of people agreeing. (Most frustrating to me, I find this insulting to the cultures in question, and I think it demonstrates a lack of faith in the human race).
Maybe "fringe" researchers wouldn't be such a laughing stock if they could take criticism and be willing to reexamine their ideas skeptically, instead of acting butthurt and blaming everything on the Fascist Mainstream Science Illuminati Meanie Club. But as it is, fringe researchers do most of their work (with exceptions) based on insinuation and innuendo.
Distilled briefly: Acting like Spock instead of a High Priest.
.Let me tell you something. Skepticism is the basis of the modern scientific method. To abandon skepticism leaves the door wide open for crazies like Earth Cube and Intelligent Design, and all the "I'm Not A Specialist In Archeology and Underestimate The Skills of Ancient Man Because He Didn't Have Smartphones, therefore Ancient Aliens did it" people.
In modern science, if someone can prove the "mainstream" (
) wrong, it's not something to be avoided. Hell, most legitimate researchers would love it because science is all about the pursuit of knowledge. That, and the buttloads of prestige and money. The competitive nature of "mainstream" science means that if someone IS wrong, there is a pack of young (CREDIBLE) people eager to exploit that.To put it simply, the fact that not many credible researchers have openly supported Hoagland and others is telling: there simply isn't enough evidence for any person practicing the scientific method to say "yes there is/was alien life on Mars that built things". Science is not about taking a picture and saying "that look like blah" and being done with it. It is about intense study, and it is about being impartial. One cannot start with an idea and cherrypick facts to support a conclusion. That is not science.
Great work mentioning the Japan anomaly, because it's totally irrelevant to Mars, and therefore the topic you were discussing. It would be relevant if there were some massive "science illuminati", but that's paranoid superstition.
Speaking of superstition, alien life has become a new form of explanatory narrative, replacing "spirits did it". When I see someone on the History Channel saying "I don't know exactly how this was built, therefore aliens", I hear an echo of "I don't know how these stones were placed here, therefore the spirits did it". There's no peer review, and no skepticism, except for someone saying "this looks like blah" and a bunch of people agreeing. (Most frustrating to me, I find this insulting to the cultures in question, and I think it demonstrates a lack of faith in the human race).
Maybe "fringe" researchers wouldn't be such a laughing stock if they could take criticism and be willing to reexamine their ideas skeptically, instead of acting butthurt and blaming everything on the Fascist Mainstream Science Illuminati Meanie Club. But as it is, fringe researchers do most of their work (with exceptions) based on insinuation and innuendo.
Distilled briefly: Acting like Spock instead of a High Priest.
Just so I'm not misunderstood, I just want to say that I mostly agree with Herkimer Jitty on this one. On one hand, I do generally accept that the "authorities" are in their respective positions for (again, mostly) merit based reasons.
On the other hand, I do agree with you, Kaiser, that The Castellan's teacher was being a jerk by ripping up his paper in front of the class. There certainly is arrogance among the scientific community. However, there are well-established reasons to understand Einstein and Newton as being essentially correct, because most of what is observed matches their conclusions. If and when something doesn't match, then the people who do know what their talking about perk up their ears. For instance, those guys who clocked the neutrinos moving at slightly faster than light. They found something that didn't match the expectations, tried to prove themselves wrong, and, when they couldn't, invited others to prove them wrong. That's a legitimate approach.
Your teacher could have taken your paper as an opportunity to make a point about how wild ideas that seem reasonable to the novice usually don't hold water under careful consideration in light of why Newton and Einstein wrote what they did. What I might have done in that situation, had I been your teacher, would be to ask you to save that paper, continue your course of study and reread what you had written after, say, a year or so of related course work and see what you thought then. Then save it longer and re-read it again after your graduation. I have some papers I was really proud of when I was in High School and College that are painful to read today. People grow. And students should be encouraged to learn more, not be humiliated in front of that class.
That sort of attitude is exactly the sort of thing that can artificially constrain the development of science. It's interesting that Herkimer Jitty threw in "Intelligent Design" with the crazies. This is the point where I disagree with him. After reading up on more about evolution than you might give me credit for, I currently am in the intelligent design camp myself. There are just too many questions, and I mean really critical questions, that nothing I've read about how evolution is supposed to work has good answers for. I have noticed a tendency that scientists have to tend to deflect such questions and give cop-out answers that seem to me to indicate they don't really have a clue and are trying to steer around the issue because they are uncomfortable with the implications. And I don't use "intelligent design" as code for Creationism. All the evidence seems to clearly state that the universe is billions of years old and people who claim the Earth was formed in six twenty-four hour days about 10,000-odd years ago are hardly reasonable either. I just think, having read quite a lot about the matter, that the idea of some larger intelligence pulling the strings along the way seems like a solution that shouldn't be ruled out. Which is NOT to say that we should just throw our hands up and say " A wizard did it!" Studying the universe and how its parts work together is limitlessly useful and the knowledge gained though the scientific process is generally reliable. (I've had this discussion with my real life hard-core atheist friends too much to bother getting into it on this thread, so I won't go into this more. I'm just saying...) (Also if you're interested in the scientific community's bias against intelligent design, I recommend Ben Stein's Expelled, a documentary he did on the subject. I'll admit he lays it on thick and parts of it sound almost like propaganda, but he does raise some interesting points.)
As to this Hoagland fellow being a nut-case... I wouldn't call him that. But a quick Google search will turn up some pretty well-reasoned articles that debunk his ideas. For example, he was using numerology to "explain" why a Russian satellite was not being moved on schedule and predicted when it would be moved, only to have his prediction totally disproved. He's no more reliable than the dude's who predict the date of the rapture or the people who believe that the Mayans predicted a 2012 expiration date for the world. But I don't think he's crazy. I think he's just trying to make a buck like the rest of us. He's a myopic pundit. Sort of a Rush Limbaugh figure for the In Search Of/Chariots of the Gods crowd. More power to him.
--Alex
On the other hand, I do agree with you, Kaiser, that The Castellan's teacher was being a jerk by ripping up his paper in front of the class. There certainly is arrogance among the scientific community. However, there are well-established reasons to understand Einstein and Newton as being essentially correct, because most of what is observed matches their conclusions. If and when something doesn't match, then the people who do know what their talking about perk up their ears. For instance, those guys who clocked the neutrinos moving at slightly faster than light. They found something that didn't match the expectations, tried to prove themselves wrong, and, when they couldn't, invited others to prove them wrong. That's a legitimate approach.
Your teacher could have taken your paper as an opportunity to make a point about how wild ideas that seem reasonable to the novice usually don't hold water under careful consideration in light of why Newton and Einstein wrote what they did. What I might have done in that situation, had I been your teacher, would be to ask you to save that paper, continue your course of study and reread what you had written after, say, a year or so of related course work and see what you thought then. Then save it longer and re-read it again after your graduation. I have some papers I was really proud of when I was in High School and College that are painful to read today. People grow. And students should be encouraged to learn more, not be humiliated in front of that class.
That sort of attitude is exactly the sort of thing that can artificially constrain the development of science. It's interesting that Herkimer Jitty threw in "Intelligent Design" with the crazies. This is the point where I disagree with him. After reading up on more about evolution than you might give me credit for, I currently am in the intelligent design camp myself. There are just too many questions, and I mean really critical questions, that nothing I've read about how evolution is supposed to work has good answers for. I have noticed a tendency that scientists have to tend to deflect such questions and give cop-out answers that seem to me to indicate they don't really have a clue and are trying to steer around the issue because they are uncomfortable with the implications. And I don't use "intelligent design" as code for Creationism. All the evidence seems to clearly state that the universe is billions of years old and people who claim the Earth was formed in six twenty-four hour days about 10,000-odd years ago are hardly reasonable either. I just think, having read quite a lot about the matter, that the idea of some larger intelligence pulling the strings along the way seems like a solution that shouldn't be ruled out. Which is NOT to say that we should just throw our hands up and say " A wizard did it!" Studying the universe and how its parts work together is limitlessly useful and the knowledge gained though the scientific process is generally reliable. (I've had this discussion with my real life hard-core atheist friends too much to bother getting into it on this thread, so I won't go into this more. I'm just saying...) (Also if you're interested in the scientific community's bias against intelligent design, I recommend Ben Stein's Expelled, a documentary he did on the subject. I'll admit he lays it on thick and parts of it sound almost like propaganda, but he does raise some interesting points.)
As to this Hoagland fellow being a nut-case... I wouldn't call him that. But a quick Google search will turn up some pretty well-reasoned articles that debunk his ideas. For example, he was using numerology to "explain" why a Russian satellite was not being moved on schedule and predicted when it would be moved, only to have his prediction totally disproved. He's no more reliable than the dude's who predict the date of the rapture or the people who believe that the Mayans predicted a 2012 expiration date for the world. But I don't think he's crazy. I think he's just trying to make a buck like the rest of us. He's a myopic pundit. Sort of a Rush Limbaugh figure for the In Search Of/Chariots of the Gods crowd. More power to him.
--Alex
Well, with my own Cydonia research, I found TONS of mathematical redundancies, ranging from cosigns, tangents, tetrahedral geometry, etc. You really mean to tell me that all this redundancy, as well as what IR readings have shown, alongside what appears to be ribbed, glass tubes emerging from the sands of Mars, that all this is a mere coincidence? I don't believe that whatsoever.
And I mentioned Japan because the geologists and the archeologists were practically at each others throats, and it finally took the discovery of some statuary to finally shut the geologists. And I want to bring up something....the Brookings report made right when NASA will still be put togather...which was a report done by the famous Brookings institute was made by a think-tank of many of the top egg heads from all fields of study, from scientific, cultural, economic, and social areas..and it stated, which I disagree with, that when we explore space and the enviable discovery of the evidence of intelligent, alien life.....be it ruins from long gone civilizations, or the ET's themselves, it would destroy human society....religious, scientific and economic institutions would collapse, everyone would go nuts and kill each other or themselves, and the most devastated people of them all would be scientists and engineers, for they would no longer bu the highest masters over nature, and so on. And if you don't believe me, look it up, it's a lot of reading, but it's there. And before someone says, "But it's a 50+ year old document, we would not be following that policy anymore!" Well, there's a little thing called the Constitution of the United States of America, and the first amendment itself is is only a handful of words from the thousands of words the entire document....and we still hold dear to this document, more than 200 years after it's been written. The Brookings report is many pages, so get yourself some coffee when, or if you plan to read it.
Also, you might say this and that about Hoagland being either a nut or rogue, he's had a list of credentials as well....like being science advisor to CBS News and Walter Cronkite, recipient of the Angstrom medal, co-creater of the Pioneer plaque, originator of the Europa Proposal, being the youngest man to curate a planetarium, and a personal hero of mine. Not what one could call a 'tin foil hat wearing crackpot' I'd say.
As for numerology, if one reads the stats and numbers of all the NASA missions, there's been a LOT of ritualistic things done regarding numbers, dating back to ancient Egypt.
And I still don't see why my papers the teach ripped up would be wrong and him right. About every hundred years or so, a new concept or way of thinking comes that pretty much pisses off the status quo or established way of thinking. Copernicus, Galileo when said the earth went around the sun, the authorities had them arrested or made to look like cooks, it took years before what they spoke of to be taken as fact. Or look how far JP Morgan and that other assho, er, business man, Thomas Edison (he was a ruthless business man first, and a man of science second) went to destroy Tesla when he was trying to come up with a source of energy that was clean, safe, and most importantly, free. Same goes for the following:
The Earth is flat
Man can not fly
Man will never reach the moon
These were mainstream ways of thinking, to the point that folks saying otherwise were labeled either lunatics or heretics. And if you wanna see violations in mainstream physics, I got two examples:
1: The launch of the first US probe, it went hundreds of miles further than it should have, the rocket engines and fuel just could not have done it.
2: All the gas giants of our solar system have a hexagonal shaped storm at the north poles, going opposite the direction of rotation.
Hell, those were topics that were part of my papers that the fat f*ck tore up.
And Albertese, you yourself said that the formation of what you saw in the picture I showed you would be ultra rare, and the odds to that, especially to what else I've seen on Mars, its moons, our moon, Iapetus and several other example in our solar system would be like having a bag full of hundreds of coins one collected randomly from the sidewalk over time all dated the same year...and that's just me being conservative. From what I have seen there, with so much geometry, someone built that thing. Remember what Sagan once said, if looking for intelligent life, look for the geometry ...and I can see a whole lot of it in that picture alone. And the White house said they have no saying on UFO's and ET's with no information to give....yet we got military guys openly admitting to UFO's stopping by and essentially shutting down their nukes and missile silos.....kinda contradictory, eh?
And no one stated that 2012 is the end of the world. From my own studies, and those of many others, it's more of the end of an era...a new beginning of how we could look at and see things, a new way of thinking. Personally, I look forward to a year from now. 2012 with it being the end of the world is more of a 'fear porn' campaign than anything else, same with so much fear porn about comet Elleneen, calling it a doomsday comet or whatever....no. Hell, even NASA said it was one of those comets that once it passes by us, we'll never see it again, ever....yet the guy who actually discovered it said the opposite.
And, while this might piss off a few Trekkies, I feel Gene might have known something, along with Lucas, Spielberg and Clark. Part of Brookings said something of a "conditioning" program to in a way get folks ready so they won't go crazy and kill each other when the day we learn of the existence of alien life, past or present. Look how scifi changed over the years....from before the 60's, it was aliens wanting to kill, rape, enslave or eat us....and from the 60's onwards, it was humanity and aliens working, living, even loving together. Plus I see little kids, with pictures of the now classic gray alien on their shirts, toys and so on. Kinda like what Gorkon said in ST6, that major change would be the hardest on the older generations, the younger ones, like the gen-x'ers, little kids, teens, and so on would handle it by saying, "Yep, we know! Ain't it cool?! " and the like. I even remember some of Gene's stories, like Who Morns for Apollo, The Paradise Syndrome, Patterns of Force and so on where man's development was effected by alien visitations in the past, or vice versa. It's been a huge theme with Doctor Who and Brookings with the aforementioned conditioning to get people ready and avoid 'culture shock' in 2001: A Space Oddessy. And I don't see it hard to envision, several hundred to several thousand years ago alien travelers with advanced technology and/or abilities coming to Earth, and they being thought of as gods or other deities. The Native Americans, especially, talk about beings from the sky visiting them, teaching them, helping them. Maybe the origins of angels and maybe even Christ himself could be alien in origin. I seen many Renaissance paintings showing weird vehicles, looking a lot like the UFO's seen in the sky today. Plus the Nazca lines, those pictures that only one can see from in the sky...plus, with my own theories of the face on Mars, being left there for someone to see it...I mean a mile long face on a planet that the mainstream says should not be there, would be an attention getter. Same with our odd development...first we're sitting in caves, eating bananas and picked lice out of our butts, and then in a super short time, making pyramids....and then it all goes slow again until around less than 200 years ago we go from horse and buggy to all the advances we supposedly done in a short time...I mean our tech spiked over the past 100 years alone. I feel that we either were helped, or that we got it from someone else in other ways. That's how I feel on the topic.
And just to keep from some of the folks from rolling their eyes from what I've typed and my theories, beliefs and so on, help me pick a hair style for Cassy, here. Which looks better?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/CassyHair1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/CassyHair2.jpg
A shot or two of her before I got her body down to what I wanted to make. She's using her personal weapon, "The Sting Beam" here, and if you look carefully, you'll see why I named it that.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/CassyFight.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/CassyFight2.jpg
And I mentioned Japan because the geologists and the archeologists were practically at each others throats, and it finally took the discovery of some statuary to finally shut the geologists. And I want to bring up something....the Brookings report made right when NASA will still be put togather...which was a report done by the famous Brookings institute was made by a think-tank of many of the top egg heads from all fields of study, from scientific, cultural, economic, and social areas..and it stated, which I disagree with, that when we explore space and the enviable discovery of the evidence of intelligent, alien life.....be it ruins from long gone civilizations, or the ET's themselves, it would destroy human society....religious, scientific and economic institutions would collapse, everyone would go nuts and kill each other or themselves, and the most devastated people of them all would be scientists and engineers, for they would no longer bu the highest masters over nature, and so on. And if you don't believe me, look it up, it's a lot of reading, but it's there. And before someone says, "But it's a 50+ year old document, we would not be following that policy anymore!" Well, there's a little thing called the Constitution of the United States of America, and the first amendment itself is is only a handful of words from the thousands of words the entire document....and we still hold dear to this document, more than 200 years after it's been written. The Brookings report is many pages, so get yourself some coffee when, or if you plan to read it.
Also, you might say this and that about Hoagland being either a nut or rogue, he's had a list of credentials as well....like being science advisor to CBS News and Walter Cronkite, recipient of the Angstrom medal, co-creater of the Pioneer plaque, originator of the Europa Proposal, being the youngest man to curate a planetarium, and a personal hero of mine. Not what one could call a 'tin foil hat wearing crackpot' I'd say.
As for numerology, if one reads the stats and numbers of all the NASA missions, there's been a LOT of ritualistic things done regarding numbers, dating back to ancient Egypt.
And I still don't see why my papers the teach ripped up would be wrong and him right. About every hundred years or so, a new concept or way of thinking comes that pretty much pisses off the status quo or established way of thinking. Copernicus, Galileo when said the earth went around the sun, the authorities had them arrested or made to look like cooks, it took years before what they spoke of to be taken as fact. Or look how far JP Morgan and that other assho, er, business man, Thomas Edison (he was a ruthless business man first, and a man of science second) went to destroy Tesla when he was trying to come up with a source of energy that was clean, safe, and most importantly, free. Same goes for the following:
The Earth is flat
Man can not fly
Man will never reach the moon
These were mainstream ways of thinking, to the point that folks saying otherwise were labeled either lunatics or heretics. And if you wanna see violations in mainstream physics, I got two examples:
1: The launch of the first US probe, it went hundreds of miles further than it should have, the rocket engines and fuel just could not have done it.
2: All the gas giants of our solar system have a hexagonal shaped storm at the north poles, going opposite the direction of rotation.
Hell, those were topics that were part of my papers that the fat f*ck tore up.
And Albertese, you yourself said that the formation of what you saw in the picture I showed you would be ultra rare, and the odds to that, especially to what else I've seen on Mars, its moons, our moon, Iapetus and several other example in our solar system would be like having a bag full of hundreds of coins one collected randomly from the sidewalk over time all dated the same year...and that's just me being conservative. From what I have seen there, with so much geometry, someone built that thing. Remember what Sagan once said, if looking for intelligent life, look for the geometry ...and I can see a whole lot of it in that picture alone. And the White house said they have no saying on UFO's and ET's with no information to give....yet we got military guys openly admitting to UFO's stopping by and essentially shutting down their nukes and missile silos.....kinda contradictory, eh?
And no one stated that 2012 is the end of the world. From my own studies, and those of many others, it's more of the end of an era...a new beginning of how we could look at and see things, a new way of thinking. Personally, I look forward to a year from now. 2012 with it being the end of the world is more of a 'fear porn' campaign than anything else, same with so much fear porn about comet Elleneen, calling it a doomsday comet or whatever....no. Hell, even NASA said it was one of those comets that once it passes by us, we'll never see it again, ever....yet the guy who actually discovered it said the opposite.
And, while this might piss off a few Trekkies, I feel Gene might have known something, along with Lucas, Spielberg and Clark. Part of Brookings said something of a "conditioning" program to in a way get folks ready so they won't go crazy and kill each other when the day we learn of the existence of alien life, past or present. Look how scifi changed over the years....from before the 60's, it was aliens wanting to kill, rape, enslave or eat us....and from the 60's onwards, it was humanity and aliens working, living, even loving together. Plus I see little kids, with pictures of the now classic gray alien on their shirts, toys and so on. Kinda like what Gorkon said in ST6, that major change would be the hardest on the older generations, the younger ones, like the gen-x'ers, little kids, teens, and so on would handle it by saying, "Yep, we know! Ain't it cool?!
" and the like. I even remember some of Gene's stories, like Who Morns for Apollo, The Paradise Syndrome, Patterns of Force and so on where man's development was effected by alien visitations in the past, or vice versa. It's been a huge theme with Doctor Who and Brookings with the aforementioned conditioning to get people ready and avoid 'culture shock' in 2001: A Space Oddessy. And I don't see it hard to envision, several hundred to several thousand years ago alien travelers with advanced technology and/or abilities coming to Earth, and they being thought of as gods or other deities. The Native Americans, especially, talk about beings from the sky visiting them, teaching them, helping them. Maybe the origins of angels and maybe even Christ himself could be alien in origin. I seen many Renaissance paintings showing weird vehicles, looking a lot like the UFO's seen in the sky today. Plus the Nazca lines, those pictures that only one can see from in the sky...plus, with my own theories of the face on Mars, being left there for someone to see it...I mean a mile long face on a planet that the mainstream says should not be there, would be an attention getter. Same with our odd development...first we're sitting in caves, eating bananas and picked lice out of our butts, and then in a super short time, making pyramids....and then it all goes slow again until around less than 200 years ago we go from horse and buggy to all the advances we supposedly done in a short time...I mean our tech spiked over the past 100 years alone. I feel that we either were helped, or that we got it from someone else in other ways. That's how I feel on the topic.And just to keep from some of the folks from rolling their eyes from what I've typed and my theories, beliefs and so on, help me pick a hair style for Cassy, here. Which looks better?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/CassyHair1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/CassyHair2.jpg
A shot or two of her before I got her body down to what I wanted to make. She's using her personal weapon, "The Sting Beam" here, and if you look carefully, you'll see why I named it that.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/CassyFight.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/CassyFight2.jpg
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Here's another shot, I've now chosen the uniforms for my crew.
Here's Captain Laguna, Lt. Comm Cassy, and Lt. Soola in the transporter room.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/Action4.jpg
As you can see, the uniforms have a sort of anime vibe to it, and I now just need to get the male version, which I hope to get soon.
Here's Captain Laguna, Lt. Comm Cassy, and Lt. Soola in the transporter room.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/Action4.jpg
As you can see, the uniforms have a sort of anime vibe to it, and I now just need to get the male version, which I hope to get soon.
Most of his "credentials" have been either inflated by himself, or are just completely false. I'd suggest you read this site, especially the link to Hoagland's credentials:
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/index.html
Actually, for that matter, I'd suggest you read the entire Bad Astronomy site.
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