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TOS series finale

TMP has always felt like a sort-of finale to TOS to me. In-universe, it's only 2 or so years after the end of the TOS/TAS and it has that "we're all together now, so let's see what's out there" kinda feel to it. You can then look at TWOK through TUC as their own little set of stories (with TUC being the finale for that also).


And I finally watched Turnabout Intruder straight through for the first time earlier this year* and it wasn't nearly as horrible as I expected. And that line of Lester's still seems to vague to me to say that Starfleet of the time didn't allow women captains.


*there's a ton of TOS eps I've never seen all the way through, most of my knowledge comes from the reference books and forum discussions. The Apple was another, recent start-to-finish-for-the-first-time watch.
 
I hate it when a great show goes off the air without a proper goodbye, but at least Star Trek had the movie franchise of the 1980s. The 1980s was an era of some made-for-TV reunion movies that were hit and miss, so I'm glad Star Trek got to go out in style on the big screen ;-)
 
Technically The Incredible Hulk did get a finale in a 1990 TV movie whose very title is a spoiler, The Death of the Incredible Hulk. Unfortunately, it was kinda lame. They went for a tragic angle and had David Banner all alone and despairing at how empty his life was, ignoring the fact that he had family established in the original series and had just made new friends and allies in the two previous revival movies. So it felt arbitrary and unconnected to the series. (Although they actually were making plans to do a fourth movie, so the death wouldn't have been permanent; unfortunately, that didn't apply to Bill Bixby's death a few years later.)

Fellow Hulk fans! Awesome. I have the whole series and the reunion movies on DVD. I don't care what anyone says, "The Incredible Hulk Returns" is one of my favorite eppies/movies of the entire series. I love all of Thor's "Ugly Troll" references. Plus it had Jack McGee. "Trial" and "Death" though I didn't care much for. Like you said, it felt disconnected from the series.
 
I like the Hulk without a finale too. The sad movin-on music is playing in my head now.

Like I mentioned in my above post, I love the Hulk series and grew up watching it every day on WGN back when I was a kid. But now everytime I hear that music, all I can picture is Stewie Griffin walking down the highway with his little backpack "Hey! Look at me! I'm David Banner!" :rofl:
 
I don't see any reason why TOS should've had a finale. It was a 1960s series, open-ended and episodic by design. Finales just weren't a normal stylistic practice back then, and it was rare for any show to have one. The Fugitive was an exception,....

Initially, I was going to make this point as well. For the most part, it just wasn't done. I'm trying to think back to when it started becoming common. The 'biggie' I can think of off the top of my head was M*A*S*H* in '83. Did The Waltons do one when they went off in '81? I honestly don't remember (and by then wasn't paying attention to The Waltons anymore anyway).

Hmmm.........great point. I love 50s and 60s television, and I'm having a hard time remembering any series that had definite finales (other than the aforementioned Fugitive). It was more an exception than a rule. "Leave It To Beaver" had a finale where Beav and his family were looking through a scrapbook (that just so happened to segway into clips throughout the series). Whatever year that would have been....1959 maybe? But you're right, it was rare.
 
I don't care what anyone says, "The Incredible Hulk Returns" is one of my favorite eppies/movies of the entire series. I love all of Thor's "Ugly Troll" references. Plus it had Jack McGee. "Trial" and "Death" though I didn't care much for. Like you said, it felt disconnected from the series.

Returns is okay -- it has the advantage of having McGee and being written and directed by Nicholas Corea, a veteran writer/producer from the original show. And the actors playing Donald Blake and Thor are pretty good. But I have trouble taking it seriously because it just doesn't feel right to me to include magic and Norse gods in David Banner's universe. TIH was a fairly naturalistic show where the transformative effects of gamma radiation were pretty much the only fanciful element, aside from one episode featuring a psychic. So of all the Marvel characters they could've crossed it with, Thor was a very strange choice. So I don't mind watching the movie but I can't really buy it as "real" within the Bixby-Hulk universe.

And I liked Trial of the Incredible Hulk. It may have been a mediocre Hulk story, but it was a pretty good Daredevil pilot. And Daredevil is a better fit to the universe than Thor, because he got his (fairly modest) superpowers from radiation just as David did. (Plus it deserves credit for beginning, or at least presaging, a tradition: it's the first live-action Marvel superhero movie with a Stan Lee cameo.)
 
Yeah, it's good that TOS finished open-ended. Taking the end of DOTD as a breaking of the fourth wall gives it exactly the open-ended finish it needs, suggesting the five-year mission will continue but the viewer will no longer be welcome to hang around and watch it. ;)
 
One small consolation for TURNABOUT's ''non-series ending''...
..........Scott is seen a split-second longer than Kirk and Spock in the turbolift as the final scene concludes. Take that, landing party hogs!

The one thing I'll give "Turnabout Intruder" is that it does include that really good McCoy-Scotty scene in the corridor, where they're conspiring about how to vote. It was one of Scotty's best scenes in the series, so it's a shame it was in such a lame episode.
 
What is the last line or two in turnabout?


Courtesy of http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/79.htm website:

[Brig]

(which strangely looks straight out into the corridor)

KIRK: To prevent further conspiracy, you will be removed to separate cells. If there’s any resistance, you'll be given a sedative until you learn co-operation. Doctor Lester will be first. Follow Doctor Coleman.

(Janice steps out into the corridor)

SPOCK: May I point out, Captain

(Janice struggles with Coleman)

KIRK: Kill him! Kill him!

(Then Kirk goes into another convulsion. The rest of the prisoners stroll into the corridor as the transfer undoes itself)

JANICE: Ohh! I've lost to the captain. I've lost to James Kirk! I want you dead! I want you dead! I want you dead! Oh, I'm never going to be the captain. Never. Kill him.

(She goes to Coleman's arms to weep)

COLEMAN: You are, you are as I loved you.

JANICE: Kill him.

KIRK: Can you do anything for her?

COLEMAN: I'd like to take care of her.

MCCOY: Of course. Come with me.

KIRK: I didn't want to destroy her.

SPOCK: I'm sure we all understand that, Captain.

KIRK: Her life could have been as rich as any woman's, if only. If only.


Navigator NCC-2120 USS Entente
/\
 
So the last line of TOS was one of its most sexist. Because what Kirk's implicitly saying is, "Her life could have been as rich as any woman's, if only she'd accepted her subordinate role and not tried to usurp the place of a man."
 
In James Blish's adaptation of the episode, Spock adds, 'If only she could have found joy in BEING a woman.''

At least Kirk admits the no-females-for-Captains rule is unfair. If this were LOST IN SPACE, June Lockhart would be insipidly apologizing to Guy Williams for foolishly overstepping her bounds. Whenever the crap strikes the revolving blades on THAT ship, all the women immediately go deck to strap down, while the boys, robots and pedophiles remain upstairs to gobble up screen time in the crisis. Venting concluded......

Doctor Smith has been missing and it's after dark. Mrs. Robinson says:

"I think I'll go up and wait for him." Looks at her husband. "May I?"

Yeah....
 
Just because a show that doesn't need a finale didn't get one, it doesn't follow logically that a show that could've had a finale would've been guaranteed one.

I understand the final episode of "The Time Tunnel" had the travellers landing on the Titanic (from Episode #1), thus putting their episodes into a perpetual loop for syndication.
 
I don't read Kirk saying "If only my world admitted female captains." It seems mpre like, "If only things hadn't gone so haywire, or she hadn't been so obsessed, she could have had a fine life."

I'd like to THINK he's rueing sexism still extant in 2269, but it doesn't seem that way.
 
I don't read Kirk saying "If only my world admitted female captains." It seems mpre like, "If only things hadn't gone so haywire, or she hadn't been so obsessed, she could have had a fine life."

I'd like to THINK he's rueing sexism still extant in 2269, but it doesn't seem that way.

JTK was merely commenting that she's one crazy bitch.
 
As it happens we had this discussion a few years ago, and I was prompted to come up with a series finale. A few of our old-timers may remember this story. It was a sequel to two episodes, wrapped up some loose ends, yet still left the door open to more adventures in the future.


It's the last day of the 5YM. The Enterprise has been ordered home and the whole crew is looking forward to several months’ worth of accumulated leave time. At the same time they're pondering where their careers will go now that this mission is over. Most of the senior officers have been offered teaching assignments, to better prepare the next generation of Starfleet officers for what they'll be facing out there.

Spock has been offered a position at the Vulcan Science Academy, with McCoy and Scotty being offered senior positions at Starfleet's schools of Medicine and Engineering respectively; Kirk, still being young for his rank, fully expects to serve another tour of duty as a starship commander preferably aboard the Enterprise, but there are rumors that Starfleet may have something else in mind.

The junior officers are all expecting promotions and new assignments elsewhere, for them the happiness is mixed with sadness at the inevitable parting of the ways. Sulu is being considered for an Executive Officer's slot aboard the Lafayette, Kirk has nominated Uhura for Command School, Chekov has put in a request for Security and Intelligence training, and Chapel is considering leaving nursing behind and becoming an MD.

Only a day out from Earth, the Enterprise encounters the First Federation starship Fesarius. The vessel seems to be a derelict drifting in space with most of her nodes dark. Kirk leads a boarding party and finds Balok in his quarters near death. He tells the tale of how the Fesarius encountered an alien vessel adrift, he sent young Mr. Bailey to render aid but somehow he was overcome and instead led the aliens back to the Fesarius intent upon capturing the massive vessel. Balok managed to keep them from acquiring the main ship by sabotaging his own vessel but they were able to seize the small pilot vessel instead. Balok jury rigged the engines and headed for Earth but the repairs failed and he has been drifting for several days. When asked why he headed for Earth Balok explains that Bailey had announced that he intended to teach Starfleet a lesson for abandoning him. Bailey had been growing more dissatisfied with his posting to the Fesarius for some months and contact with the aliens seems to have somehow brought his resent out in full force. After saying this, Balok dies.

Kirk and the boarding party return to the Enterprise. Uhura reports that she’s picking up a series of distress calls from ships and installations the renegade pilot vessel has attacked which Spock analyzes to figure out a pattern to Bailey’s actions. He determines that Bailey is most likely to strike next at Alpha Centuari with a 87.936 percent probability of following it up with a strike at Earth itself. Captain Kirk contacts Starfleet with their conclusions and is ordered to Alpha Centauri at maximum warp, the Earth Sector Patrol Group will meet him there. Kirk, however, has a gut feeling that Bailey has tapped into the communication and will therefore head straight to Earth. Rather than risk alerting Bailey, Kirk ignores his orders and directs the Enterprise to Earth at warp 7.

Kirk’s guess is right, Bailey and the pilot vessel have just begun attacking Earth installations when the Enterprise arrives. The starship attacks but the pilot vessel is every bit as tough as Balok had stated years earlier. Between the Enterprise’s superb crew and his greater tactical skill, Kirk manages to avoid crippling damage but it is clear that the pilot vessel is more than a match for the Enterprise. Kirk tries to talk Bailey into giving up this senseless quest for revenge, but Bailey goes on and on about how Earth will suffer as he has. During his tirade, Spock notices something strange in a corner of the pilot vessel’s bridge. Enhancing the image he finds it to be one of the flying parasites thought to have been eradicated on Deneva. Obviously Bailey was infected when he went aboard the derelict alien vessel, the creature must have discovered Bailey’s dissatisfaction with his assignment and expanded upon it until Bailey had become a willing tool in the creature’s quest for revenge.

With this information in his hands Kirk formulates a plan. The Enterprise launches a full scale attack intent on collapsing the pilot vessel’s deflectors. In spite of the Enterprise taking severe damage he perseveres and manages to burn through the shields. At this point Scotty beams a dozen high-powered ultraviolet lamps aboard the pilot vessel killing most of the creatures. Lieutenant Commander Giotto and his security teams follow up with hand-held lamps and finish the job. Back in his right mind Bailey is appalled at the death and destruction that he has caused and breaks down in tears.

The badly battered Enterprise enters Spacedock where a hero’s reception awaits them. Starfleet decides that the ship is too badly damaged to go through merely a routine refit. Instead she will be the test vessel for a major upgrade program. They tap Scotty to oversee the program. Captain Kirk is offered a promotion to Admiral and a position on the commanding admiral’s staff, he says he’ll consider it and make his decision when he comes back from leave. Spock decides to return to Vulcan, for a time at least. McCoy has yet to accept his teaching position but figures he probably will. The three friends share a drink together in a small lounge overlooking the Enterprise. McCoy asks if they’ll ever be serving together again. Kirk remarks that it’s a small galaxy. Spock states that while this may be true in cosmic terms, in real terms the galaxy is… McCoy interrupts him asking if he has to be so literal all the time? Spock raises an eyebrow at him as Kirk looks on smiling then says – Yes, Bones, I’m sure we’ll be together again, there’s a whole lot more galaxy waiting to be explored. Then the camera pans over to the Enterprise as a new slower-paced voice over of the opening monologue plays, then fade to black and roll credits.
 
I don't read Kirk saying "If only my world admitted female captains." It seems mpre like, "If only things hadn't gone so haywire, or she hadn't been so obsessed, she could have had a fine life."

I'd like to THINK he's rueing sexism still extant in 2269, but it doesn't seem that way.

Well, I'm not talking about how Kirk, the character living in 2269, would've thought about it, but how the writers doing the script in 1969 intended it. The key is that he specifically said her life could've been as rich as any woman's, which implies that what a woman should expect from life is different from what a man can expect. It's got an element of condescension to it. And it's implicit throughout the whole story that Lester is insane because she thinks a woman can do a man's job. Yes, it's subtext, and it's possible if you squint a bit to interpret it differently, but I do think that was the underlying assumption. Lester failed as captain because she was overemotional, erratic, irrational. To a modern viewer, that may seem to be just because of her madness, but these qualities are ones that a male viewer of the '60s raised with chauvinistic assumptions would read as intrinsic female failings. Scotty even said outright that Lester-as-Kirk was "red-faced with hysteria." The word "hysteria" comes from the Greek word for "uterus" and was used for centuries to refer to what was considered an exclusively female disorder. Its use in vernacular to refer to hyperemotional, unreasoning behavior had a strongly gendered component to it.
 
The first draft script of Turnabout Intruder has a much better ending than the final draft, IMHO:

TIP1.jpg


TIP2.jpg


Sorry for the scans, but I didn't feel like typing it all. :)
 
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