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Anne Rice Trolls Twilight

chardman said:
I've never known King to speak disparagingly about Koontz.
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King called Koontz "sometimes … just awful" and James Patterson “a terrible writer” who is “very, very successful.” in his On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft novel.

hyzmarca said:
You know, by this point in the Vampire Diaries book sieries Ellena had been turned into a vampire, killed, and brought back to life as a super-powered 12-winged Japanese demon (it makes sense in context) and is a pawn in various power-plays amongst members of the celestial bureaucracy. And it's still mostly just a teen romance.
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The best thing about TVD show is that it only took a few names and concepts like daywalker rings from the books and ignored the rest. The books are quite bad compared to the show.
 
Dream said:
King called Koontz "sometimes … just awful" and James Patterson “a terrible writer” who is “very, very successful.” in his On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft novel.
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Those quotes are from an interview with USA Weekend, not from On Writing. His full quote about Dean Koontz was: "You’ve got Dean Koontz, who can write like hell. And then sometimes he’s just awful. It varies."
 
I blame TVD. Damon blatantly knocks Twilight and says that Anne Rice "gets" vampires. All roads lead back to the CW. :rommie:

I have often wondered why some vamp has not gone for world domination. I think Klaus on TVD is/has been giving it the ole college try, but with daddy dearest running around with a stake with Klaus' name on it....There is only so much domination a dude can manage while running for his life.

I think TVD somewhat answers that question by pointing out that the supernatural beings have spent lots of quality fighting each other. The werewolves hate the vampires and the vampires hate the wolves. The witches seem ready to give everyone a smack down.

Yes the originals are supposed to be stronger but Michael has been hunting them and thereby kept them hopping.

Then the witches are running around with the "servants of nature" mantra. I figure they are somehow safeguarding/knocking the others down a peg or two.

I personally don't watch the vamp/werewolf stories for the love bits.

I like the mythos and fantastical bits. That is why I ultimately don't care for Twilight. It is a teenage romance novel with some fantastical elements thrown in. There is not enough mythos to hold my attention.

I have never read Anne Rice's work. I like my vamps and wolves on screen. I have zero desire to read the books. However, I confess to reading the first book of Twilight just so I would know what the fuss was about. :evil:
 
Vulagr said:
It did not disprove my point of view and I did not make a mistake. I am using it in its proper social context. And in it's proper social context it is a legally adult man who is interested in having sex with an underage girl
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Bella is not underage.
 
Guartho said:
Vulagr said:
It did not disprove my point of view and I did not make a mistake. I am using it in its proper social context. And in it's proper social context it is a legally adult man who is interested in having sex with an underage girl
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Bella is not underage.
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You are correct. By the time Edward and Bella engage in sex she is 18 and by law legally able to consent to sexual activity.
 
I also see that I have yet to learn to catch all the way up on a thread before commenting on something on the page I am on.
 
Guartho said:
I also see that I have yet to learn to catch all the way up on a thread before commenting on something on the page I am on.
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There is no rule that says you cannot comment on something someone said pages ago. I do it all the time!
 
I know, but it's annoying on the read-through when something's been settled and then some johnny come-lately brings it back up.
 
Kosh Naranek said:
I blame TVD. Damon blatantly knocks Twilight and says that Anne Rice "gets" vampires. All roads lead back to the CW. :rommie:
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Oh Damon, Damon, Damon. You are more like Edward than you would ever admit.

Certainly not at all like the world-domination vampire whose story never gets told because he/she (yeah, it would be a she, wouldn't it?) appeals to the wrong gender. Guys, you're going to have to stop obsessing about zombies and get into vamps or the genre will never progress. :rommie:
I'll say one thing: brooding tends to be much more attractive to teenage girls, than to adult women
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Correctamundo.
 
Kosh Naranek said:
I have often wondered why some vamp has not gone for world domination.
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That's exactly what the Master was about to do, when he was released from the force field in his underground prison in season 1 finale of Buffy. That's presumably why he came to Sunnydale to the Hellmouth in the first place.

Although in the alternate universe in The Wish, he seemed content to rule Sunnydale with an iron fist. But maybe that was the beginning before he went on a wider scale, he and his vampires did get more modern and industrialized in that reality, with the machine for harvesting human blood. We'll never know since the universe was negated.

I think the Master is one of BtVS's best villains, very underrated.
 
Temis the Vorta said:
Guys, you're going to have to stop obsessing about zombies and get into vamps or the genre will never progress. :rommie:
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We have. It's called Hellsing. Superpowered Dracula vs crazy Nazi vampires and Catholic zealots. It's got blood, guts, guns, bombs, air support, explosions, and millions of Londoners dead in a matter of hours.

Unfortunately, it's difficult to convince the CW to show an 10-episode anime in prime time.
 
DevilEyes said:
Kosh Naranek said:
I have often wondered why some vamp has not gone for world domination.
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That's exactly what the Master was about to do, when he was released from the force field in his underground prison in season 1 finale of Buffy. That's presumably why he came to Sunnydale to the Hellmouth in the first place.

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There's also Kim Newman's excellent Anno Dracula series, in which Dracula kills Van Helsing, marries Queen Victoria, and takes over the British Empire . . . .

Highly recommended.
 
hyzmarca said:
Temis the Vorta said:
Guys, you're going to have to stop obsessing about zombies and get into vamps or the genre will never progress. :rommie:
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We have. It's called Hellsing. Superpowered Dracula vs crazy Nazi vampires and Catholic zealots. It's got blood, guts, guns, bombs, air support, explosions, and millions of Londoners dead in a matter of hours.
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and just the thing to wipe the stench of Twlight for your memory.
 
All good examples, although it does seem like this theme has been explored more in prose than on screen . . .
 
Greg Cox said:
All good examples, although it does seem like this theme has been explored more in prose than on screen . . .
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I suspect that today vampires would be like Jason Dohring's hedge fund manager vampire from Moonlight, effectively dominating the world because he has access to and control of corporations that have roots that go back decades, if not centuries. A modern vampire doesn't have to dominate the world politically if he can get all the power he needs through economic domination.
 
Meh.. I'm not a Twilight fan by any means, I watched the movies with my son and they were a fun way to waste a few hours, but I find it hard to take anything by Anne Rice seriously. Her books are unreadable crap.
 
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