Will Start Shooting in January

[sonak]

West - Burton: Not reboot
Burton - Schumacher: Not reboot. Sequel
Schumacher - Nolan: Reboot

ah, glad we got that straight. Good to see you get to decide which is what. And yes I was counting Burton's as a re-boot which it was. There was an actual Adam West Batman movie in '66, with the Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler, and Joker.

And the Schumacher movies were reboots as well, not direct sequels. Or did Harvey Dent magically change races?

 

[sonak]

Dude, the very Internet itself as well as local car shows around the country are hotbeds of West worship. The three pillars of the web are porn, Trek and Adam West.

aren't kittens in there too?

 

[F. King Daniel]

West - Burton: Not reboot
Burton - Schumacher: Not reboot. Sequel
Schumacher - Nolan: Reboot

ah, glad we got that straight. Good to see you get to decide which is what. And yes I was counting Burton's as a re-boot which it was. There was an actual Adam West Batman movie in '66, with the Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler, and Joker.

And the Schumacher movies were reboots as well, not direct sequels. Or did Harvey Dent magically change races?

Catwoman did it in the 60's. Not every recasting is a reboot.

 

[Squiggy]

So there's a statute of limitations on rebooting?

Yes. A computer "reboot" is, according to wiki:

...either "hard", whereby the power to the system is physically turned off, or "soft" where the system restarts without the need to interrupt the power or trigger a reset line.

It's not a process that's done over a long amount of time. It's usually within a couple of minutes.

Likewise a franchise "reboot" isn't over the course of 20 years. That's a total "power down". If we're using computer terminology to describe redoing works of fiction then we need to be consistent.

Good to see you get to decide which is what.

Lighten up, Francis.

And yes I was counting Burton's as a re-boot which it was.

Good to see you get to side which is what.

Adam West was too old to play Batman in 89. He wasn't a believable character, but the original mythos of Batman was kept in tact. However in the rebooted Batman Begins, Batman all of a sudden trains with ninjas.

 

[cooleddie74]

As inferior or downright shitty as the Schumacher BATMAN movies were, they weren't reboots. Not in the slightest. They were deliberately intended to be follow-ons to the universe established in the two Burton films. Yes, Harvey Dent changed from black Billy Dee Williams in 1989 to white Tommy Lee Jones in 1995, but that's just bad continuity and a decision to cast a recent Academy Award-winning actor with widespread name recognition in the role. Not evidence that the Batman reality was rebooted.

More than a few characters in movie and TV series change appearance or even race from show to show or film to film. Catwoman in the '60s BATMAN series. Ernst Stavro Blofeld in the James Bond films. James Bond himself!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

So there's a statute of limitations on rebooting?

Yes. A computer "reboot" is, according to wiki:

...either "hard", whereby the power to the system is physically turned off, or "soft" where the system restarts without the need to interrupt the power or trigger a reset line.

It's not a process that's done over a long amount of time. It's usually within a couple of minutes.

Likewise a franchise "reboot" isn't over the course of 20 years. That's a total "power down". If we're using computer terminology to describe redoing works of fiction then we need to be consistent.

Your analogy with computer science is flawed. The reboot is the process that occurs immediately after restart. Relatively speaking, that process doesn't take long. But a computer reboot is still a reboot no matter how long has elapsed since the last boot-up.

A computer can be active, or sit idle, for an indefinite period between reboots. It can even crash and stay locked up indefinitely before being rebooted.

By the same token, development of Tim Burton's Batman didn't begin when Dozier's Batman went off the air, but rather it began 17 or so years later.

In terms of the computer science analogy, this state of affairs parallels perfectly a computer that is rebooted (for Adam West Batman), then active for a few years (while the show airs), then idle/crashed for many years (while nothing is produced), and then rebooted once again almost 20 years later (for Michael Keaton Batman).

 

[sonak]

As inferior or downright shitty as the Schumacher BATMAN movies were, they weren't reboots. Not in the slightest. They were deliberately intended to be follow-ons to the universe established in the two Burton films. Yes, Harvey Dent changed from black Billy Dee Williams in 1989 to white Tommy Lee Jones in 1995, but that's just bad continuity and a decision to cast a recent Academy Award-winning actor with widespread name recognition in the role. Not evidence that the Batman reality was rebooted.

More than a few characters in movie and TV series change appearance or even race from show to show or film to film. Catwoman in the '60s BATMAN series. Ernst Stavro Blofeld in the James Bond films. James Bond himself!

I guess that's fair.

 

[Gojira]

Hyperbole (

/haɪˈpɜrbəliː/ hy-pur-bə-lee;[1] Greek: ὑπερβολή, 'exaggeration') is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.
Hyperboles are exaggerations to create emphasis or effect. As a literary device, hyperbole is often used in poetry, and is frequently encountered in casual speech. An example of hyperbole is: "The bag weighed a ton."[2] Hyperbole helps to make the point that the bag was very heavy, although it is not probable that it would actually weigh a ton.

I actually thought you were being more sarcastic. But if you were using Hyperbole then what was your real point?

younger people are prettier.

Can't disagree with you there!

 

[Ln X]

Man we hear so much about reboots of old franchises, of old films, of old series. The last four years in the film industry have been littered with reboots, sequels, prequels, remakes, very few new films are actually 'new'. At least with Star Trek they've rejigged it however controversial that may be.