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SW blu-rays have changes to the films again

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I have the 2004 box set of the original trilogy. When the prequels all came out on DVD, I got those individually.

Really, that's all I need. I can appreciate the desire to have these films (well, the original trilogy, anyway) in the highest quality sound and picture, but really... George Lucas has made enough money off me.

You can argue the merit of the changes he keeps making till you're blue in the face, but he's likely going to just keep on making them. As is his right. That doesn't mean I have to keep spending my hard-earned money on the same product, over and over again. :shrug:
 
doubleohfive said:
I have the 2004 box set of the original trilogy. When the prequels all came out on DVD, I got those individually.

Really, that's all I need. I can appreciate the desire to have these films (well, the original trilogy, anyway) in the highest quality sound and picture, but really... George Lucas has made enough money off me.

You can argue the merit of the changes he keeps making till you're blue in the face, but he's likely going to just keep on making them. As is his right. That doesn't mean I have to keep spending my hard-earned money on the same product, over and over again. :shrug:
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This. I don't think I could care less about Star Wars on Blu ray.

In fact, as time goes on, and more releases happen, and the continuing nerd raging, makes the whole thing boring. I can't think of the last time I watched a Star Wars movie.
 
milo bloom said:
I Grok Spock said:
The Mirrorball Man said:
Yes, well of course it's not the master tape. But it's a version of the movie that looks exactly like the original looked thirty years ago.
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Not exactly.
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Damn.

I actually netflixed the first "bonus" disc when it first came out just to see how bad it was, and it was pretty awful on my widescreen set. I'm definitely going to have to try actually hooking up my LD player to it now. I've got the Faces trilogy and the Fox widescreen editions (which have better colors IMHO). So maybe if I sit far enough back that will work.
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I hooked up my LD player. It's not a high end one, only single-side play and stereo sound. The Fox widescreen special editions (which are the originals, Fox just called them special since they were the first letterbox LD's I believe) don't look very good at all. I zoomed the image on my player to fit to the sides, and even sat a good ways back and they looked like the prints had been smeared between a monkey's buttcrack during the the transfer process.

Next I tried the "Faces" discs (the last LD and VHS release of the originals). These are ..... acceptable. They'll do for personal viewing and for introducing my son to the original versions.

I'm not even mad anymore, just accepting of it. The DVDs I have and the LD's & VHS will suffice. And that's the worst part of it, the sheer disrespect Lucas is showing these films and the fact that so many of us are giving up.
 
So, in another forum, someone tells me that the dvd deleted scenes aren't included in the blu-ray sets?

Anyone with the set cares to confirm?
 
doubleohfive said:
Really, that's all I need. I can appreciate the desire to have these films (well, the original trilogy, anyway) in the highest quality sound and picture, but really... George Lucas has made enough money off me.
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Do what I did with the original DVD's - wait a while, and buy them used.:)
 
Eduardo said:
So, in another forum, someone tells me that the dvd deleted scenes aren't included in the blu-ray sets?

Anyone with the set cares to confirm?
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The deleted scenes are only included in the special 9-disc set containing both the OT and PT. You can buy the PT-only set, or the OT-only set, but those will not contain the deleted scenes.
 
JarodRussell said:
Uxi said:
Lucas has done anything BUT milk the home video releases. If he was, he would release the original uncut versions later for a premium. He would then release the original release cut without the Ep IV title crawl (just "Star wars") and he would release an original concept cut that had the original concept intro, etc etc.

I find his stance on refusing to release the original cut strangely refreshing, in fact. At it's basic, I like most of the Special Edition changes. Realistically, the only way Greedo should get off a shot at all is if it's like Johnny Ringo in Tombstone. :D Similarly, for the DVD release, I appreciate the concept of having young Anakin appear as the ghost since the old man in that getup didn't quite make sense, but my beef with that shot is the execution which appears flawed (doens't appear that Hayden Christensen is looking in the same direction as the Alec Guiness and Yoda muppet), as well as the creepy smile. These infamous youtube cuts definitely have me cringing a bit at the "nooooo" and even though that's probably still my favorite scene out of all six movies watching Vader's moment of truth, it doesn't ruin the scene for me, much less rape my childhood or any other such redonkulous hyperbole.
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Actually, if he releases the Original Trilogy on blu ray last, it's the best he can do. Everyone will have bought the other bluray set already. And everyone will buy the other release, too. If he released the OT now, only half would buy the Special Edition.
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Definitely disagree there. I think the vast majority of the people buying don't care which version he releases and will buy whatever's cheaper. Whining fanboys who had their childhoods "raped" will complain about it, but even most of THEM will still buy whatever comes out first.
 
Uxi said:
Whining fanboys who had their childhoods "raped" will complain about it, but even most of THEM will still buy whatever comes out first.
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I think that ship has sailed. Most "whining fanboys" have been on this ride too many times to give Lucas more money.

Now, excuse me, I've got to go to eBay and research on a LD player and a certain LD set.
 
Ultimately, for me the issue isn't prequels or re-cutting scenes or double-dipping. It's about the lack of creativity that is inherent in sequels. The original Star Wars was a spectacular movie. It had a beginning, a middle, and an END. It should have ended there, but Lucas was greedy, and we got "I am your father", aka "the beloved mentor from the previous film is a lying bastard". We got teddy bears with spears. We got a love triangle that was resolved with a little incest. We got the Holiday special with Art Carney. We got 2 (count 'em!) 2 bad made-for-TV Ewok films. We got 2 (count 'em!) 2 pathetic Saturday morning '80's 'toons. We got the god-awful Special Editions, with their Greedo shoots first and their CG Jabba and their pointless CG corner clutter and dumb sound FX. We got the horrible prequels, with their lame characters, lame acting, pathetic dialog, and questionable continuity. We got that lame Clone Wars movie, with its stiff, goofy CG Thunderbirds puppets, and a lame series on Cartoon Network that underwhelms at every turn. And let's not forget billions of dollars of cheap plastic merchandise that is over-burdening our planets' many landfills.

George Lucas made a fun, Flash Gordon-style film in 1977, but since then, he has made pile after pile after pile after pile of steaming, filthy Bantha crap. How many fun, terrific action-adventure films could he have made if he'd just left Star Wars alone? Hell, he made one in 1981---it was called "Raiders of the Lost Ark" (which he also beat to death with spin-offs--sigh!). He could have made many, many more films that were worth watching. What a waste!!! :(:(:(:(
 
Python Trek said:
Ultimately, for me the issue isn't prequels or re-cutting scenes or double-dipping. It's about the lack of creativity that is inherent in sequels. The original Star Wars was a spectacular movie. It had a beginning, a middle, and an END. It should have ended there, but Lucas was greedy, and we got "I am your father", aka "the beloved mentor from the previous film is a lying bastard". We got teddy bears with spears. We got a love triangle that was resolved with a little incest. We got the Holiday special with Art Carney. We got 2 (count 'em!) 2 bad made-for-TV Ewok films. We got 2 (count 'em!) 2 pathetic Saturday morning '80's 'toons. We got the god-awful Special Editions, with their Greedo shoots first and their CG Jabba and their pointless CG corner clutter and dumb sound FX. We got the horrible prequels, with their lame characters, lame acting, pathetic dialog, and questionable continuity. We got that lame Clone Wars movie, with its stiff, goofy CG Thunderbirds puppets, and a lame series on Cartoon Network that underwhelms at every turn. And let's not forget billions of dollars of cheap plastic merchandise that is over-burdening our planets' many landfills.

George Lucas made a fun, Flash Gordon-style film in 1977, but since then, he has made pile after pile after pile after pile of steaming, filthy Bantha crap. How many fun, terrific action-adventure films could he have made if he'd just left Star Wars alone? Hell, he made one in 1981---it was called "Raiders of the Lost Ark" (which he also beat to death with spin-offs--sigh!). He could have made many, many more films that were worth watching. What a waste!!! :(:(:(:(
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For someone who thinks that everything after Star Wars is a big steaming pile of crap you sure have seen a lot of Star Wars.
 
Python Trek said:
George Lucas made a fun, Flash Gordon-style film in 1977, but since then, he has made pile after pile after pile after pile of steaming, filthy Bantha crap. How many fun, terrific action-adventure films could he have made if he'd just left Star Wars alone? Hell, he made one in 1981---it was called "Raiders of the Lost Ark" (which he also beat to death with spin-offs--sigh!). He could have made many, many more films that were worth watching. What a waste!!! :(:(:(:(
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You know what else is Flash-Gordon-style? Serials.
 
/\ For real. I should be so knowledgable and proactive about the things I hate and wish didn't exist. I just can't be bothered.
 
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