DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

[Admiral_Young]

I wouldn't be surprised if that energy drink that Luthor was consuming was some kind of smart elixir he came up with. I look at all of this as younger versions of "All Star Superman" since this is partially based on Morrison's proposed "Superman: Year One" story that would have been a prequel to All-Star Superman.


As for Justice League #1...I don't have a problem with writers writing for trades. I have a problem with bad writing and atrocious dialogue of which there was in that book. I expect better from Johns who can and has done better with both things.

 

[Myasishchev]

The idea that Batman and GL are naturally antipathetic to one another has struck me as really perceptive since it was first introduced, and I think some of the reasons it's so are laid out pretty plainly in this encounter.

Hitler always hates Stalin.

As for Justice League #1...I don't have a problem with writers writing for trades. I have a problem with bad writing and atrocious dialogue of which there was in that book. I expect better from Johns who can and has done better with both things.

We've clearly been replaced by mirror versions of ourselves.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I wouldn't be surprised if that energy drink that Luthor was consuming was some kind of smart elixir he came up with. I look at all of this as younger versions of "All Star Superman" since this is partially based on Morrison's proposed "Superman: Year One" story that would have been a prequel to All-Star Superman.

Maybe, but it's branded - has a logo and a name something like "Voltage."

Looks like the label also may say "cola" at the bottom, so maybe it's just supposed to be something like Jolt rather than an energy drink.

Your acronym for All-Star Superman is unfortunate, as it was a pretty good book.

As for Justice League #1...I don't have a problem with writers writing for trades. I have a problem with bad writing and atrocious dialogue of which there was in that book. I expect better from Johns who can and has done better with both things.

I thought it was pretty good across the board.

 

[Admiral_Young]

@Myasischev it would appear so. LOL

@Dennis yeah now that I flip through that page you are right it does appear to be a regularly branded energy drink, perhaps LexCorp owns it Another possibility is that Lex guzzles though to keep awake all night and day in order to play around in the lab.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I'm sorry, "ZeeZeeZee" still has me going.

This makes Clark and Jimmy out to be more contemporaries, it looks like, which is kind of nice. I always preferred the Michael Landes version of Jimmy Olsen to the others.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ Yep. Morrison has described them as being "nerds". They're best friends and are into all the latest "kewl" stuff.

 

[Broccoli]

BROMANCE!

 

[Nowhere Man]

I certainly hope that DC is not building up to crossover where we have to buy twenty different books a month to follow the story.

How many people have been the Time Trapper? I am familiar with Cosmic Boy and Superboy Prime (which was a ridiculous notion, IMO). Who else?

I hope so too. The whole reason I started reading and buying again was because I don't have to keep up with all of the crap. The Crisis', Flashpoint, War of the Supermen, Grounded and everything else in between. I just want to read a few books and thats it. If you have to have crossovers, we can have them in Justice League.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

BROMANCE!

Yeah, I like the idea of Clark actually having a friend who's a little more identifiable than an occasional spear-carrier in one or two panels of a comic, designated as "Clark's friend." Olsen is a long-running character in his own right.

 

[JD]

Is the zeezeezee thing a reference to something?
This weeks New #1
Batman
Birds of Prey
Blue Beetle
Captain Atom
Catwoman
DC Universe Presents (Deadman)
Green Lantern Corps
Legion of Superheroes
Nightwing
Red Hood and the Outlaws
Supergirl
Wonder Woman
Damn, there are to many intersting books this week. The only ones that don't interest me are Captain Atom and DC Universe Presents.

 

[sojourner]

^Jimmy's signal watch. Mostly seen in the silver age.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Jimmy's signal watch.

 

[TemporalFlux]

How many people have been the Time Trapper? I am familiar with Cosmic Boy and Superboy Prime (which was a ridiculous notion, IMO). Who else?

The other main one is Lori Morning. Lori was the female identity of the Trapper created after Zero Hour. It seemed that Lori was on the path to becoming Glorith (the Trapper's lieutenant) who would then later become the Trapper (meaning the Trapper was her own lieutenant in a past time frame).

It's one of many ideas that never came to fruition in the post Zero Hour Legion (often called "the Archie Legion"). The other big idea left on the table was that the Archie Legion R.J. Brande was actually a 1,000 year old Martian Manhunter in human disguise.

 

[Captain Craig]

I certainly hope that DC is not building up to crossover where we have to buy twenty different books a month to follow the story.

How many people have been the Time Trapper? I am familiar with Cosmic Boy and Superboy Prime (which was a ridiculous notion, IMO). Who else?

Would not surprise me.
I mean look at JLA #1, the clearest "still writing for the trade" type of "old school management" being done. It's things like this that have people more than cautious of accepting this "new jump on point" as something legit and new. It's by the people who frelled up the old, according to themselves, universe(es).

They know, KNOW not everyone is going to buy all 52. So, how do you jack up 2012 3rd Q profits so the year-to-year doesn't look like a total hemorrage? Have a story that involves the mystery lady and DOES cross into all 52 titles for at least 2-3 months.

 

[C_Miller]

Is the zeezeezee thing a reference to something?
This weeks New #1
Batman
Birds of Prey
Blue Beetle
Captain Atom
Catwoman
DC Universe Presents (Deadman)
Green Lantern Corps
Legion of Superheroes
Nightwing
Red Hood and the Outlaws
Supergirl
Wonder Woman
Damn, there are to many intersting books this week. The only ones that don't interest me are Captain Atom and DC Universe Presents.

I think those are out next week. I could be wrong though. You almost got me excited. I thought I had Nightwing and Batman to look forward to.

 

[Myasishchev]

I certainly hope that DC is not building up to crossover where we have to buy twenty different books a month to follow the story.

How many people have been the Time Trapper? I am familiar with Cosmic Boy and Superboy Prime (which was a ridiculous notion, IMO). Who else?

Would not surprise me.
I mean look at JLA #1, the clearest "still writing for the trade" type of "old school management" being done. It's things like this that have people more than cautious of accepting this "new jump on point" as something legit and new. It's by the people who frelled up the old, according to themselves, universe(es).

They know, KNOW not everyone is going to buy all 52. So, how do you jack up 2012 3rd Q profits so the year-to-year doesn't look like a total hemorrage? Have a story that involves the mystery lady and DOES cross into all 52 titles for at least 2-3 months.

If all 52 are still around deep enough into 2012 in order to be reflected in Q3 profits, I'll be amazed.

 

[Professor Zoom]

I certainly hope that DC is not building up to crossover where we have to buy twenty different books a month to follow the story.

How many people have been the Time Trapper? I am familiar with Cosmic Boy and Superboy Prime (which was a ridiculous notion, IMO). Who else?

Would not surprise me.
I mean look at JLA #1, the clearest "still writing for the trade" type of "old school management" being done. It's things like this that have people more than cautious of accepting this "new jump on point" as something legit and new. It's by the people who frelled up the old, according to themselves, universe(es).

They know, KNOW not everyone is going to buy all 52. So, how do you jack up 2012 3rd Q profits so the year-to-year doesn't look like a total hemorrage? Have a story that involves the mystery lady and DOES cross into all 52 titles for at least 2-3 months.

If all 52 are still around deep enough into 2012 in order to be reflected in Q3 profits, I'll be amazed.

They KNOW not all 52 will be around. It's absurd to think THEY think all 52 will be around. They are sure on a few titles: Action, Detective, Superman, Batman, probably JL, GL, The Flash, and Wonder Woman, but all the others... I'm sure in the next few months they will start making decisions which will get cancelled (I'm looking at you Hawk and Dove) and they have books that will replace them.

In a year or so, there will be a more stable number of books, but this is a BIG IDEA, a BIG PUSH, so, yeah, lots of titles. And so far, it's working. But, things will settle.

They are hoping for a new normal though.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Out of the books coming out this Wednesday I'll be picking up the following:

-Batman and Robin #1
-Batwoman #1
-Green Lantern #1
-Legion Lost #1
-Superboy #1


Yeah JD's list are the books coming out next week.

 

[JoeZhang]

Would not surprise me.
I mean look at JLA #1, the clearest "still writing for the trade" type of "old school management" being done. It's things like this that have people more than cautious of accepting this "new jump on point" as something legit and new. It's by the people who frelled up the old, according to themselves, universe(es).

They know, KNOW not everyone is going to buy all 52. So, how do you jack up 2012 3rd Q profits so the year-to-year doesn't look like a total hemorrage? Have a story that involves the mystery lady and DOES cross into all 52 titles for at least 2-3 months.

If all 52 are still around deep enough into 2012 in order to be reflected in Q3 profits, I'll be amazed.

They KNOW not all 52 will be around. It's absurd to think THEY think all 52 will be around. They are sure on a few titles: Action, Detective, Superman, Batman, probably JL, GL, The Flash, and Wonder Woman, but all the others... I'm sure in the next few months they will start making decisions which will get cancelled (I'm looking at you Hawk and Dove) and they have books that will replace them.

This is all built into the costing model, they know that pretty much everything they launch will be cancelled or relaunched at some stage - the trick is to cancel them while they are still profitable.

 

[Hound of UIster]

Batman and Robin
Batwoman
Deathstroke
Demon Knights
Frankenstein
Green Lantern
Red Lanterns
Resurrection Man

Damn, there are to many intersting books this week. The only ones that don't interest me are Captain Atom and DC Universe Presents.

How can you not care about the continuing adventures of DeadAgainMan?