Marvel to revitalize the Defenders?

[Noname Given]

Wow - I rememer and really liked The Defenders way back when the team was:

Dr. Strange
The Hulk
Nighthawk
The Valkire
The Son of Satan (now there;s a character you can no longer do today in comics. )

 

[RJDiogenes]

It sounds like he has some interesting ideas for the book, but I have minimal confidence that Marvel can publish anything decent in its current state.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I take the opposite view on Marvel...to me they've the much more interesting projects than DC has right now.

 

[ClayinCA]

Wow - I rememer and really liked The Defenders way back when the team was:

Dr. Strange
The Hulk
Nighthawk
The Valkire
The Son of Satan (now there;s a character you can no longer do today in comics. )

Actually, Son of Satan just turned up in New Avengers not terribly long ago. But yeah, that's my Defenders line-up as well (with honorable mentions to Red Guardian and Hellcat, and I do also want either Namor or the Surfer as well).

 

[Captain Craig]

^^^
I do believe he also turned up in an issue of Heroes for Hire recently. Misty and her team were trying to take out some illegal guns powered by a supernatural element, called "sould stealers" I think. Anyway he was the freelance operative that helped Misty and Co. track down the warehouse. I want to say it was in the first arc, about issue #4 or #5.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I take the opposite view on Marvel...to me they've the much more interesting projects than DC has right now.

Agreed. And I'll definitely be picking this up.

 

[RJDiogenes]

I take the opposite view on Marvel...to me they've the much more interesting projects than DC has right now.

Neither one of the Big Two is putting out anything I find interesting right now. I was thinking of picking up Fearsome Four, but I couldn't get past the art. Thank goodness for independent publishers and archives.

 

[Hound of UIster]

I take the opposite view on Marvel...to me they've the much more interesting projects than DC has right now.

Too bad aside from Iron Man, Matt Fraction is a horrible writer as Thor, UXM and Fear Itself has shown us. If this was done by Remember or Hickman or Pak or Parker, it might be worth it, but if it's by Fraction, it's just going to turn out to be a dud.

 

[Set Harth]

You can't get to the moon on Fractions.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Hmmm.

Strange is a thousand, ten thousand times less powerful than he used to be.

His qualifications for leading the Defenders are... A huge mustache?

It's like you have a friend with a van. You ask for his help when you want to move. Sure you hang out, but he's the guy you call when you want to pick up your shit and transfer it to the other side of the city... Now imagine that friend of yours sold his van and bought an vesper?

Stephen might be their pal, but he's no longer capable of facing off against the same threats he used to be able to stand toe to toe against... He's not the right tool for the job. I mean if the Hulk, Namor or the Silver Surfer run into a trouble they can't handle, they go to the Sorcerer Supreme for help not a mage who can't find a bloody rabbit in his hat with out looking up the answers in the back of the teachers manual.

 

[Admiral_Young]

@RJiogenes I would recommend you check out Jonathon Hickman's Future Foundation. It's my favorite Marvel book (in my opinion their best book) it's only seven issues deep so far and the first trade will be out in Sep. Hickman is probably my favorite writer of theirs right now.

 

[Hound of UIster]

I heartily recommend the two most recent issues of FF.

Hickman did a wonderful job building up Black Bolt here as the Kree version of the Kwistaz Haderach to that of the Kree Supremor.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw the "Dune" comparisons to the Kree. The Supreme Intelligence was pretty much Leto II.

 

[Captain Craig]

I take the opposite view on Marvel...to me they've the much more interesting projects than DC has right now.

Neither one of the Big Two is putting out anything I find interesting right now. I was thinking of picking up Fearsome Four, but I couldn't get past the art. Thank goodness for independent publishers and archives.

I understand that. I'm getting it but I admit I don't find the art repulsive for this series but I've been in your situation before.

Like how issue #2 was an homage to FF#1

 

[RJDiogenes]

^^ That was the worst Howard the Duck I've ever seen.

And I'm afraid to ask what's become of Doctor Strange.

@RJiogenes I would recommend you check out Jonathon Hickman's Future Foundation. It's my favorite Marvel book (in my opinion their best book) it's only seven issues deep so far and the first trade will be out in Sep. Hickman is probably my favorite writer of theirs right now.

That's the Fantastic Four replacement, right? It seems like it might be a good idea for a 2099 or M2 type of book, but not for contemporary continuity. Although I'm sure it's temporary, like the Death of Cap and so forth.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Future Foundation is not a replacement for the Fantastic Four it's the continuation post

Spoiler: Character Demise

the death of Johnny Storm

the title comes from a think thank that Reed started using all of the young people including his super smart daughter Val. It's not an alternate universe or anything like that. Nor meant to be temporary. I'm not sure what would make you state something like that in the first place. The previous volumes of Hickman's Fantastic Four opus are available. I'm currently re-reading them at the moment.

Hickman gets the characters and balances their development along with his bold and ambitious plots.

 

[Captain Craig]

^^ That was the worst Howard the Duck I've ever seen.

And I'm afraid to ask what's become of Doctor Strange.

That's not Dr.Strange in Fearsome Four, is the character in red/blue with a cape who your thinking is the good doctor?

If so, rest easy. It's a C/D list charcter called Nighthawk.
I guess not being a Howard fan his look hasn't bothered me, he's actually the least interesting part of the book for me.

 

[RJDiogenes]

^^ I asked about Doc Strange because of the comments that he only has a small fraction of his powers now. I gather he is no longer Sorcerer Supreme?

Future Foundation is not a replacement for the Fantastic Four it's the continuation post

Spoiler: Character Demise

the death of Johnny Storm

the title comes from a think thank that Reed started using all of the young people including his super smart daughter Val. It's not an alternate universe or anything like that. Nor meant to be temporary. I'm not sure what would make you state something like that in the first place.

Well, because I don't believe that you-know-who is you-know-what forever, any more than Cap was. I'm sure the Fantastic Four will eventually return with a new issue #1, because that's the sort of thing that drives plotlines these days.

 

[Admiral_Young]

That character is not gone forever. Hickman has a plan and people overreacted and Marvel decided to promote it that way lol. I was attempting to help you get back reading but that's fine if you aren't interested.

To answer your question about Doc Strange, he is a New Avenger at the moment. He hasn't been Sorcerer Supreme since Doctor Voodoo holds that title but Strange is still considered one of the most powerful sorcerers in the Marvel Universe.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I like how he is being portrayed in Fear Itself: The Deep (Why this series wasn't simply called Fear Itself:The Defenders is beyond me). He is altering less powerful spells to achieve the same results as the major spells. For example, in the latest issue, he used a spell designed to rid grain supplies of goblins in order to banish demons.