I'd say Black's pretty much on the same level as Joss Whedon, who they nabbed for The Avengers. Respected writer with one acclaimed but not world-beating directing credit under his belt.
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I'd say Black's pretty much on the same level as Joss Whedon, who they nabbed for The Avengers. Respected writer with one acclaimed but not world-beating directing credit under his belt.
Yeah but outside of "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" and "The Last Boy Scout" (which was awful) and the not so good Lethal Weapons (3&4) I've never heard of his work. Wheldon I've known about since the heydays of Buffy. He's has one successful TV series (Buffy), one near succesful spinoff (Angel), a cult classic (Firefly).
I agree when it comes to film they are about equal, but Whedon has his experience in TV and comics which many of us think gives him an edge.
^ I don't want to flog the issue to death but you have to remember that the likes of Lethal Weapon (and he only wrote the first, best one), The Long Kiss Goodnight (with Sam Jackson and Geena Davis) and even The Last Action Hero are a lot better known among the general public than are Whedon's shows (even if I'm a huge fan of all of them). Black literally broke records with the fees he commanded for LW, TLKG and The Last Boy Scout - each sold for huge, unprecedented sums.
And you could not be more wrong about The Last Boy Scout.
And you could not be more wrong about The Last Boy Scout.
Marvel's strategy is "let's throw it all out there and see what sticks". Marvel has had a lot of bad movies, but DC's bad movies stick out more because they've had fewer movies in general.
First you were right about Lethal Weapon. Misread IMDb.
Second The Last Action Hero, The Long Kiss Goodnight and the Last Boy Scouts if they are remembered at all are known as expensive failures.
Third Marvel seems to know what they are doing, so if they picked Black and Robert Downey Jr is happy then I'm not going to complain.
The fact it do so poorly in the Box office means a lot of people agreed with me. It reminded me of "48 hrs" with more violence.
Hmm. I think that's another way of looking at things. I could argue that Marvel is willing to take more risks ("Blade" of all characters got things rolling for them) or they have a deeper bench. Whatever they are doing though they need to keep doing it and DC needs to keep up.
No, it just means not an awful lot of people saw it.
And that's a bad thing?
Shane Black I know, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Lethal Weapon, The Last Boyscout, great stuff. But who the fuck is Joss Whedon?
Do you expect me/us to believe that you follow entertainment news and haven't heard of Whedon? Sounds more like a trolling statement than anything.
Wiki is your friend but the bulletpoints are:
- Felicity
- Buffy
- Angel
- Firefly
- Dollhouse
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Sorry, Felicity was JJ Abrams not Whedon. I had a mental lapse there.
To answer your question it had some popularity on a US Network called the WB. Is "here" the UK or other European nation? I don't know for fact it's ratings but it likely got 3-4millon viewers a week, which for that network was considered good. I think it lasted 4-5 years. It starred Keri Russell and when it ended was picked up for a small role in Mission Impossible 3.
Sorry, Felicity was JJ Abrams not Whedon. I had a mental lapse there.
To answer your question it had some popularity on a US Network called the WB. Is "here" the UK or other European nation? I don't know for fact it's ratings but it likely got 3-4millon viewers a week, which for that network was considered good. I think it lasted 4-5 years. It starred Keri Russell and when it ended was picked up for a small role in Mission Impossible 3.
I haven't seen any of these shows and I don't know who this guy is, and yes, I am serious.
I like Black and Whedon; in fact, two of my fave films of 2005 were Serenity and Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang. I'm not seeking to make it a competition. But I think their respective positions are comparable.
i think next year will be a good indication of where the superhero film genre goes. I do think it's starting to taper off, but if the spiderman reboot does well, i expect a lot of the big franchises to hit the reset button.
i'm almost okay with that. Spider-man, imho, is at his best when he's a struggling teenager not a struggling adult with marital problems. i'd just prefer that instead of wasting time re-telling the origin story, they just assume either a. everyone knows of b. no one really cares. go the james bond route... the movies (plot wise) seem barely connected to eachother, and that franchise has been around for decades swapping in new actors as needed.
i'm almost okay with that. Spider-man, imho, is at his best when he's a struggling teenager not a struggling adult with marital problems. i'd just prefer that instead of wasting time re-telling the origin story, they just assume either a. everyone knows of b. no one really cares. go the james bond route... the movies (plot wise) seem barely connected to eachother, and that franchise has been around for decades swapping in new actors as needed.