How should Voyager have gotten home?
- Thread starter The Overlord
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I always liked the idea that the Voyager returned home in the final episode but then the crew finds out that after 7 years they've changed so much that they don't "fit" into the Federation society and the Alpha Quadrant anymore. So they "steal" Voyager and, in the final shot of the episode, head off to a voyage into the unknown.
froot. Wow. That trailer was just...completely amazing! A very cool idea. Much cooler than the one I was going to suggest before watching your vid, which is that they realize halfway through season 7 that Chakotay's tattoo is actually a map back to the Alpha Quadrant.
Your proposed release date for the Voyager movie would be my baby girl's 371st birthday.
Actually, I think I like your idea better.
It's actually the date Voyager gets lost in the DQ.Happy 371st birthday, Little Markira!
Ha ha, thanks! Of course being the J/Cer that I am, it would be Janeway figuring out the tattoo's significance during a...passionate...interlude.
Oh, I like this idea!
Wow, that's a stunning vid!
I think they should have gotten home because of a strictly Maquis operation.
Sort of.
I think it would have been great if the idea/method had been a Maquis' idea - either Belanna or Chakotay - but the whole crew would have worked hard together to make it work. It would have been a nice bookend to the show ; Starfleet went into the Badlands to capture the Maquis, Maquis thinking was the catalyst for getting the ship back to federation space.
I think they should have gotten home because of a strictly Maquis operation.
Sort of.
I think it would have been great if the idea/method had been a Maquis' idea - either Belanna or Chakotay - but the whole crew would have worked hard together to make it work. It would have been a nice bookend to the show ; Starfleet went into the Badlands to capture the Maquis, Maquis thinking was the catalyst for getting the ship back to federation space.
I think they should have found another Caretaker in the finale, in an episode that mirrored the debut with a defenseless civilization threatened by a big baddie. Janeway finds herself once again having to decide to either go home and let the civilization fall, or help the civilization and pass up another opportunity to go home. Janeway decides to stay and the new Caretaker moves on to another plane of existence. In the end, however, it is the unlikely civilization that the Voyager saved that gets the ship back home.
And then it's discovered that whole seven-year journey was just an elaborate holodeck program run by Will Riker aboard the Enterprise-D and that there never was a Starship Voyager lost in the Delta Quadrant...
And then it's discovered that whole seven-year journey was just an elaborate holodeck program run by Will Riker aboard the Enterprise-D and that there never was a Starship Voyager lost in the Delta Quadrant...
Saquist
Commodore
I'm okay with how they got home...through a Borg Conduit but the endeavor shouldn't have been enhanced by any thing or anyone from the future. (blast you Berman) Season 6 and Season 7 should have been about a coalition force to take down the Transwarp Hub. The force could have been led by the Equinox and Voyager with the Hirogen and Drones from Unimatrix Zero. Seven should have given her life to get Voyager through the Transwarp hub.
As much as I love Janeway, it would have been dramatic if Janeway would have sacrificed Voyager and herself to get her crew home. Like Voyager is on self-destruct and all shuttles and escape pods are launched to the Borg hub and Janeway leaves behind and walks through every deck of the ship (with clips of past good moments) and then she returns to the bridge, sits down to her chair, says something like "Good bye" or "Welcome home" and then Voyager explodes. Then they show back in Alpha Quadrant the crew and they wait Voyager to come through, but with bad results. The hub closes and Voyager isn't nowhere to be seen. That would have been so dramatic and sad. But actually I am glad Voyager did make it home with Janeway.
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Jetfire
Guest
The show runner sacrificed the integrity of the show to get the ship home?
However you're probably half remembering Deadlock when (a) Janeway said some like "Welcome aboard Voyager." to a Vidiian harvesting gang as the self destruct blew them all to hell.
However you're probably half remembering Deadlock when (a) Janeway said some like "Welcome aboard Voyager." to a Vidiian harvesting gang as the self destruct blew them all to hell.
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Jetfire
Guest
I am all for Janeway dying.
[edit] Actually I'd rather see Chakotay go before Janeway.
[edit] Actually I'd rather see Chakotay go before Janeway.
I imagined once that Janeway not wanting to lose from the outset drafted a crew of clones including her own doppleganger to replace the entire compliment she had sleeping in stasis between the walls and crawlspaces of Voyager.
So that as the last of the clones finally made it home, the real crew could be woken and the clones could be trashed or incinerated.
So that as the last of the clones finally made it home, the real crew could be woken and the clones could be trashed or incinerated.
Saquist
Commodore
Well I was going with the idea that Seven is Janeway's Spock. After all the stubbornness Seven showed Janeway on her development as a human being, for her to give her life so the crew of Voyager could make it home would be a powerful example of Janeway's success as a mentor of humanity.
Janeway dying has it's possibilities too. There is a story to tell there. Janeway has always been a troubled soul about stranding the crew 75 years from home....Reflecting over this appropriately in the last 2 hours of the show would be power. It's hard to convincingly separate a captain from their ship (like the movies often tried to do with Picard and never suceeded with) but hurdling a fat contrivance to that end it would be very powerful as an ending too.
They shouldn't have gotten home at all in my opinion. For me there were still many fantastic adventures for this crew in the Delta Quadrant.
Naw. They were about to enter the Beta Quadrant toward the end of season seven.
Wasn't it more like late S5/early Season 6 that should have happened
First of all a bit of Galactic geography. Earth is lcoated approximatley 20 000ly away from the edge of the Galaxy. This is science fact.
Voyager propelled 70 000 ly away. So that mean's it's some 10 000ly away from the galactic edge. as the Milky Way is 100 000ly across it means the maximum distance Voyager can be away from a quadrant boundry is 40 000ly.
70 000ly away from Earth = a 7 year journey so speed of 1000ly/year
2374 (S4)
Kes propels Voyager 9500ly (10 years closer to home). Distance Travelled so far ~12500ly
Quantum Slipstream technology shortens journey by 300ly. Distance Travlled so far ~13 800ly
2375 (S5)
Revisit to Qunatum Slipstream technology (Timeless) cuts another 10 years of journey distance ~23 800ly
Travel through the Void saves 2500 ly (2.5 years). Distance approx 26 300ly
Use of Borg transwarp coild shaves 15 years off journey so another 15000ly. Distance Travelled ~41 300ly
Wait a minute that means they would have passed a quadrant boundry and be in the Beta quadrant.
Shouldn't they have just travelled back in time 70 to a hundred years after Caretaker diddled them over, and timed it so they got back to earth shortly after they left?
The X-men did that once. They spent 10 years in stasis returning slowly from the destruction of the Skrull Homeworld by Galactus' snackattack in the mid nineties so that there was almost no gap or overlap in their lives back home.
Hell, that's what they should have done with swarm space, and Borg space, the Krenim Imperium, the kazon and those wiggy buggers from Think Tank they had to sell Seven of Nine to save the day on that one.
Go back in time 3 hundred years(over and over again as a standard defensive manoeuvre to run away from any bastard too tough to take on.) till before these species were a threat or even had warp.
The X-men did that once. They spent 10 years in stasis returning slowly from the destruction of the Skrull Homeworld by Galactus' snackattack in the mid nineties so that there was almost no gap or overlap in their lives back home.
Hell, that's what they should have done with swarm space, and Borg space, the Krenim Imperium, the kazon and those wiggy buggers from Think Tank they had to sell Seven of Nine to save the day on that one.
Go back in time 3 hundred years(over and over again as a standard defensive manoeuvre to run away from any bastard too tough to take on.) till before these species were a threat or even had warp.
I'm cool with Voyager getting home through a Borg transwarp hub (and destroying at least part of it in the process), but I wish they'd cut out the time travel hijinks in "Endgame" and have the first hour and ten minutes or so be about Voyager discovering the hub and getting through it, then have the last thirty minutes or so be about the crew's homecoming and dealing with how both the Federation--and themselves--have changed.
Janeway mentions the Beta Quadrant border in Renaissance Man.
Fun fact: Berman was using the wrong map for the first half of Voyagers trip home. He had the Gamma and Delta Quadrants inverted. There are maps from canon depicting this, but as far as the killers Bees were concerned, the beta Quadrant wasn't part of the equation until some one yelled at them for being dopey idjits.
Something to consider.
"As the crow flies."
Voyager can't go in a straight line. They'll run out of resources and die.
They have the technology to see where all the stars in the galaxy are, and which ones have planets and the closer they get they can make assumptions about the level of technology the life on those planets might have, if there's life that is.
This is why Voyager and Equinox took different courses. Voyager can stay in open space longer which means that they don't have to berth at every port of call for panhandling, and maybe Voyager needs to introduce themselves to every fourth civilization they pass but Equinox needs to say hello to every second? mean while Picards Enterprise would probably only need to barter with the natives at every 15th to 30th world of potential assholes.
Consider how different sort/kinds of boats would travel around the world.
Considering that the Beta Quadrant is mapped (Shared data with the Klingons and half truths from the Romulans) it might take half as long to get through somwhatknown Beta Quadrant Space as it does through unknown Delta Quadrant space.
