Water of Mars...wow, I just really did not like it.

[Starkers]

The WOM aliens were initially quite spooky, but they just got sidelined too quickly and there seemed to be a disparity in how they were acting that wasn't explained.

The thing in Midnight however, that was really scary and truly alien.

 

[PorthosShadow]

The WOM aliens were initially quite spooky, but they just got sidelined too quickly and there seemed to be a disparity in how they were acting that wasn't explained.

The thing in Midnight however, that was really scary and truly alien.

Now see I thought while "Midnight" was a great high concept it lacked in execution. It was one of those episodes that truly had little or nothing to do with anything. It reminded me a lot of the disappointment I felt with Isaac Asimov's empire novel "The Stars Like Dust"

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

People who shoot (dangerous) water out of their arms and mouths look pretty stupid IMO. Other than that, I had no major complaints. The sub-plot on Adelaide Brooke's "destiny" made it interesting.

 

[Deckerd]

Oh I disagree. I don't think I've ever been more frightened by anything on Doctor Who, including my childhood behind the sofa.

 

[Cutter John]

I will admit the effect the virus had was pretty damn creepy. But like I said in my previouis post, more information would have been nice. I mean, was the cracking around the mouth like the Ice Warrior makeup intentional, or just a coincidence?

 

[Starkers]

I think it was probably intentional, and the Doctor did make a comment about the Ice Warriors at one point.

 

[Deckerd]

The humans were simply infected. It was what was under the ice that was really scary. That's what I mean about unknown things that are never explained. In any case I was responding to PorthosShadow about Midnight in my last post.

 

[Stevil2001]

It was one of those episodes that truly had little or nothing to do with anything. It reminded me a lot of the disappointment I felt with Isaac Asimov's empire novel "The Stars Like Dust"

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

 

[PorthosShadow]

It was one of those episodes that truly had little or nothing to do with anything. It reminded me a lot of the disappointment I felt with Isaac Asimov's empire novel "The Stars Like Dust"

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

That was in reference to "Midnight" in series 4.

 

[Deckerd]

I think it might have been a Marmite episode (Midnight). I was truly frightened and completely blown away by the awesomeness of Lesley Sharp but I remember coming on here after it aired and reading how some fans thought it was rubbish.

 

[PorthosShadow]

I think it might have been a Marmite episode (Midnight). I was truly frightened and completely blown away by the awesomeness of Lesley Sharp but I remember coming on here after it aired and reading how some fans thought it was rubbish.

It was a good episode with a really high concept but nothing it with the except of the Rose cameo never went anywhere afterwords. That's where my disappointment stems from really.

 

[ITL]

I think it might have been a Marmite episode (Midnight). I was truly frightened and completely blown away by the awesomeness of Lesley Sharp but I remember coming on here after it aired and reading how some fans thought it was rubbish.

I thought it was a very well written piece on claustrophobic paranoia, desperation, sacrifice and the breakdown of civilities in a survival situation.

And all done on a limited budget, too. Masterful.

 

[Deckerd]

It was as close to theatre as science fiction ever gets. Just a bunch of people and one set. You so rarely get an actor driven story these days, without some fancy bells and whistles. And they were so very good. As good as it gets, IMO.

 

[Gepard]

^What you guys said.

Midnight was the episode that sucked me into Doctor Who, actually. I'd had no interest in it before due to the sci-fi channel promos making it look awful. One night I just didn't change the channel after BSG was over and "Midnight" was came on immediately afterwards. The next day, I borrowed all the previous seasons from a friend and marathoned them in an epic three-day binge of nuWho.

Good times.

 

[Sci]

I think it might have been a Marmite episode (Midnight). I was truly frightened and completely blown away by the awesomeness of Lesley Sharp but I remember coming on here after it aired and reading how some fans thought it was rubbish.

It was a good episode with a really high concept but nothing it with the except of the Rose cameo never went anywhere afterwords. That's where my disappointment stems from really.

In other words, you were upset it wasn't a plot-centric episode that advanced a season-long story arc, but was instead a single episode telling its own, self-contained story?

In other words, you were upset that it did the same thing as every episode of RTD-era Doctor Who other than the last two or three of a season?

 

[PorthosShadow]

I think it might have been a Marmite episode (Midnight). I was truly frightened and completely blown away by the awesomeness of Lesley Sharp but I remember coming on here after it aired and reading how some fans thought it was rubbish.

It was a good episode with a really high concept but nothing it with the except of the Rose cameo never went anywhere afterwords. That's where my disappointment stems from really.

In other words, you were upset it wasn't a plot-centric episode that advanced a season-long story arc, but was instead a single episode telling its own, self-contained story?

In other words, you were upset that it did the same thing as every episode of RTD-era Doctor Who other than the last two or three of a season?

I wouldn't say upset, that's a bit over dramatic but I was disappointment that I didn't personally get much out of it.

 

[Sci]

It was a good episode with a really high concept but nothing it with the except of the Rose cameo never went anywhere afterwords. That's where my disappointment stems from really.

In other words, you were upset it wasn't a plot-centric episode that advanced a season-long story arc, but was instead a single episode telling its own, self-contained story?

In other words, you were upset that it did the same thing as every episode of RTD-era Doctor Who other than the last two or three of a season?

I wouldn't say upset, that's a bit over dramatic but I was disappointment that I didn't personally get much out of it.

I just don't see how "Midnight"'s lack of season arc relevance makes it any different from, say, "Blink" or "The Girl in the Fireplace" or "Father's Day." Nor how you couldn't have gotten something out of it, since it raises some very interesting questions about human morality.

 

[Cutter John]

Midnight for me fell into the same category as Fathers Day. Both very good episodes, but not something I've ever felt the desire to go back and rewatch for thier entertainment value.

As opposed of course to Fear Her, The Idiots Lantern, or Victory of the Daleks, which I've never rewatched because they just kinda sucked.

 

[RoJoHen]

Doctor Who, as a show, really impresses me. It has so many episodes that I just really don't like, yet I remain a huge fan.

 

[Cyke101]

-the Doctor's breakdown at the end: yes, I realize it had to happen somehow, in order to push Brooke and for RTD's intended end-show goals, so I can forgive its necessity. How it was executed though, seemed really out of character, artificial, and overwrought for Ten. Yes the Doctor is arrogant, yes he's powerful, but the way he quickly and rapidly descends into believing his own mythology seemed psychotic without much explanation as to why or how he got to the breaking point (esp. for a character whose usual MO is to always come up with the right plan at the last moment).

That is ultimately what destroyed this episode for me. Since I couldn't buy into the sudden personality change of the Doctor the whole episode rung hollow for me.

For me, it wasn't enough to completely dislike the episode, but I can definitely see where you're coming from. It's pretty jarring, to say the least.