Green Lantern: Grading, Review, Discuss, Tracking, Sequel?

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Captain Craig, Jun 16, 2011.

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How would you grade Green Lantern?

Poll closed Jan 2, 2012.
  1. A+

    5 vote(s)
    3.5%
  2. A

    7 vote(s)
    4.9%
  3. A-

    11 vote(s)
    7.7%
  4. B+

    20 vote(s)
    14.1%
  5. B

    18 vote(s)
    12.7%
  6. B-

    23 vote(s)
    16.2%
  7. C+

    10 vote(s)
    7.0%
  8. C

    15 vote(s)
    10.6%
  9. C-

    13 vote(s)
    9.2%
  10. D+

    4 vote(s)
    2.8%
  11. D

    3 vote(s)
    2.1%
  12. D-

    3 vote(s)
    2.1%
  13. F

    10 vote(s)
    7.0%
  1. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    That report, which is sourced to The Hollywood Reporter - still a pretty reliable trade source, not a fanboy comic book wanksite (read: comicbookmovie.com) - shocks me a bit. I thought the 66% dropoff this weekend would have the WB suits quietly declining to talk about the future, not reaffirming their support for GL.

    I can make up business-type rationalizations that make this sound logical, if not plausible, but I sure wouldn't want to post them because after this weekend they'd be a reach.

    I thought Sinestro was one of the highlights of the film. He comes across as arrogant but honest. It has been rumored (stress that word) that if a sequel when forward it would turn out that what happened to Abin Sur and why it ultimately happened (the Guardians tinkering around with sketchy stuff - shades of the Manhunters - sending Sur to handle it and then keeping it a secret) cause him to consider them unfit to police the Universe and so he decides to create his own force initially as an alternative.
     
  2. davejames

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    Agreed. As much as I'd love to see a sequel, I thought the lack of turnout made it pretty clear that there just wasn't enough interest out there for the character.

    Of course, this could just be the WB trying to save face a bit. With the movie only being in theaters a week, they're not about to admit defeat so early-- especially after all the money that's been put into it. I expect in a few months the sequel plans will be quietly dropped, and we'll never hear another word about it.
     
  3. Admiral Buzzkill

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    The PR is over as of the last big full page newspaper ad this weekend. What they would do now is get quiet and noncommittal, and place the project in turnaround a few weeks or months down the road - businesspeople don't have to "save face" before the public in this context (they're not politicians and the interests they serve aren't much swayed by chatter) and certainly nothing is served by talking anonymously - "sources close to" etc - about a sequel. If anything that makes them look foolish to their peers unless they actually have plans (which may also make them look foolish, but in that case at least they have a reason to risk it).

    One operative question is just how committed Warners is to the notion that they have to mine their comics properties to create franchises in the next ten years - they don't have very many ways to go, there. If GL doesn't work you can bet no one's going to greenlight The Flash. :lol:
     
  4. Jetfire

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    No...but you are wrong and I don't believe a damn thing you say for one moment...if a relationship happens in a film...it needs to happen naturally and not forced...which is how most Hollywood relations happen(Forced). "Lesbian" doesn't mean "butch, "Lipstick" or "whatever" it is two gender female falling in love...not for exploitative reasons...but love...like real life...which you seem to have zero grasp of. :rolleyes:
     
  5. Admiral Buzzkill

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    "Hannah Jordan" is a nonstarter - it might make some folks feel good, but it doesn't service the right demographics. Fuck, Warners doesn't even know what to do with Wonder Woman, much less inventing new female characters that teen boys won't buy into as action heroes.

    The folks at Warners do not perceive Reynolds as being the problem with this movie, whatever Nikki Finke (a smart reporter) might surmise. They may be right or wrong, but Hollywood's still betting on him (in the last six days Universal's firmed up a feature deal with him for 2013, and in the same timeframe he's partnered with Allan Loeb to develop first-look projects for Fox), and everyone expects Lively to go on to great things.
     
  6. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    They're never going to give up.

    They'll just keep making bad movies.

    No one can stop them.

    We're doomed.
     
  7. Professor Zoom

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    No. It just meant that there was a guy named Carter Hall who shares the name of a comic book character. It's called a NOD to the fans.

    I appreciate nods. But they aren't all that important unless you ACTUALLY see something that confirms that nod.

    A fangasm? No. I really haven't. But, then, maybe I don't know what a fangasm means. I like this stuff. But, I'm not an obsessive fan that needs everything to connect and over lap. I appreciate the thing that in front of me (or not) and take it on it's own terms.


    Yeah, you don't want to criss cross the streams.
     
  8. Admiral Buzzkill

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    There's a whole town devoting most of its resources to exactly that - it's called "Hollywood."

    Heard of it?
     
  9. Captain Craig

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    We all know how WB allegedly kept the Superman Returns talk alive as well in the face of reality.

    This is talk. It fell hard. Over at BOM I had it for a 67.8% drop and wasn't far off.

    If GL ever sees another movie anytime soon it'll be ala reboot like Hulk or Daredevil.
     
  10. Admiral_Young

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    I don't buy that nonsense yet. DC Ent committed a great deal to this project, we know some significant work on a treatment and script has been going on since last year. This could be just talk but we've seen sequels green lit over the course of time...Craig I'm surprised with your view on this...remember the Narnia thread? We waited almost three months or so before Magician's Nephew was green lit.
     
  11. Admiral Buzzkill

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    AICN and most of the comic sites have picked this story up from THR in a matter of hours. Guess it's a man-bites-dog kind of thing.
     
  12. Professor Zoom

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    I think two things will more or less decide whether or not GL gets a sequel.

    1. It's own box office/dvd take, obviously.
    2. How the rest of the comic book movies do. If there's a drop off all summer from Comic Book movies--which it sorta looks like there is, then that might make WBs think perhaps the market is changing what they want.
     
  13. Guy Gardener

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    Thank you for your good humour Prof Zoom.

    Moving on...

    Well what I am watching now is telling me that Alan Scott is being played by Eric Stoltz which isn't an impossible casting, but it's happening and happened.

    Leverage season four episode one.

    "Fangasm"
     
  14. Gaith

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    And so a gay Green Lantern would automatically be "forced"? Non sequitur. Sometimes screenwriters dramatically alter/reinvent source material. Troy, anyone? Or wait - does the Green Lantern franchise have a ghost that haunts screenwriters' dreams and make them wake up to the sound of screaming lemurs if they consider introducing gay themes?


    Sometimes. Sometimes it's just sex.


    Sorry, I thought we were talking about Green Lantern here. This thread is about "real life" now? Huh. I wonder what sort of shampoo Hal Jordan generally buys? A specific brand, whatever's on sale, or something random? Does he floss before or after brushing his teeth? Does he like eggplant? This is real life, dammit! We need answers! :rommie:


    Well, they tried to launch a show about her as a straight woman... that creative risk really paid off, didn't it? :p
     
  15. Jetfire

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    What? :rolleyes:

    :vulcan: Again... :rolleyes:

    You keep changing things. :cardie: Why don't you say what you really mean. :guffaw:

    :wtf: Nice try. :rommie:
     
  16. Nowhere Man

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    I imagine GL. uses Irish Spring.
     
  17. Broccoli

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    Fangasim


    Fangasim II
     
  18. Professor Zoom

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    Oh. God. He screamed, "fly like the wind" in that video. I didn't realize such... fans existed. I mean, I've gone to a con or two.. but... I've never talked to them... I just...

    And over SMALLVILLE?! Jesus. Some people need to get out of the basement.
     
  19. Admiral_Young

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    That video is a more extreme example of a fangasm.
     
  20. OdoWanKenobi

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    Wait....what the hell is this thread about, now? :wtf: