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Falling Skies 1.1 "Pilot" Discussion/Review/Comment **SPOILERS**

Pick your level of enjoyment

  • Love it.

    Votes: 12 15.4%
  • Like it

    Votes: 30 38.5%
  • It was OK

    Votes: 20 25.6%
  • Meh

    Votes: 14 17.9%
  • Stunk on ice

    Votes: 2 2.6%

  • Total voters
    78
The weapons were a fine eclectic set, although with so many different ammunition types it'll be hard to keep them all supplied with bullets, lube and spare parts(if the show delves into that level of realism)

The only really glaring mistake was our heroes using a Russian PK machine gun at the end of the second hour of the pilot.

Similar to what is pictured at the wiki article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PK_machine_gun

There is really no way our heroes would have been given or stumbled across such a weapon. No government agency or branch of the armed forces use them in the US or Canada, and they are extremely illegal.
I have heard that some branches of the military have samples of foreign firearms on hand to train certain teams on how to use them in combat situations, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was how the PK got to America.
Just because Special Forces down at Fort Bragg have them doesn't mean that Army Reserve and National Guard armories in Boston have them. Gangsters would be the source.
 
^True gun collectors do everything legally. Batshit crazy survivalist militia types - not so much.

Trust me, I know people of both types.
 
They are fighting their own hopeless battle against some larger force, and Earth represents a desperate last fall-back position. And like Pope, they weren't very fussy about who they had to tromp on in order to survive. They're building up Earth as a garrison, and the real battle probably won't even start till this season's finale cliffhanger.

Pretty sure I remember them mentioning in the premiere that the main force had moved on and what was left was just a caretaking force. Doesn't really fit your idea here.

I wouldn't trust the humans to know the aliens' battle plans in detail. How could they? Maybe the main force went off to fight some battle in Alpha Centauri and got wiped out. The humans are just interpreting what limited info they can glean and assuming the aliens on Earth are "caretakers." I hope this show isn't written in such a simpleminded way that whatever the humans believe is in fact the case.

As for the guns, all it would take was for one batshit survivalist to join the militia and point them to a treasure trove of weaponry, legal and otherwise.
 
^True gun collectors do everything legally. Batshit crazy survivalist militia types - not so much.

Trust me, I know people of both types.
I have to wait for On DEMAND on my system to catalog all the different illegal weapons the militia had. Its like they are game characters and eveybody choose his signature weapon. I heard "RPG" mentioned during the show. If they pull out a Soviet RPG with a Viet Cong rucksack full of rockets instead of a LAW I might throw something at my screen.
 
^True gun collectors do everything legally. Batshit crazy survivalist militia types - not so much.

Trust me, I know people of both types.
I have to wait for On DEMAND on my system to catalog all the different illegal weapons the militia had. Its like they are game characters and eveybody choose his signature weapon. I heard "RPG" mentioned during the show. If they pull out a Soviet RPG with a Viet Cong rucksack full of rockets instead of a LAW I might throw something at my screen.
They do have AT4s, but I'm figuring that the writers are unintentionally being accurate by tossing the RPG name to anything that fires a rocket, much like most of the characters would due to not actually knowing all that much about military hardware (aside from the people with actual military experience and the professor).
 
They are fighting their own hopeless battle against some larger force, and Earth represents a desperate last fall-back position. And like Pope, they weren't very fussy about who they had to tromp on in order to survive. They're building up Earth as a garrison, and the real battle probably won't even start till this season's finale cliffhanger.

Pretty sure I remember them mentioning in the premiere that the main force had moved on and what was left was just a caretaking force. Doesn't really fit your idea here.

I wouldn't trust the humans to know the aliens' battle plans in detail. How could they? Maybe the main force went off to fight some battle in Alpha Centauri and got wiped out. The humans are just interpreting what limited info they can glean and assuming the aliens on Earth are "caretakers." I hope this show isn't written in such a simpleminded way that whatever the humans believe is in fact the case.
Where did I say that the humans know the alien's battle plans? The humans stated that the bulk of the alien forces had moved on, nothing more. I would guess this knowledge comes from observation of the aliens. I am not sure how this is "simpleminded"? They may guess that the bulk of the force won't come back. They can dream it won't come back. But the safe military strategy is to plan on it coming back. I think at some point we will see this born out unless further information about the bulk force is revealed.
 
You said the scenario I proposed was implausible, but since we're seeing the show from the point of view of the humans, and their point of view is extremely limited, there's no way they, or we, can know what the aliens are up to. Anything is possible. Just because the humans think the aliens are a "caretaking" force like the narrator said, doesn't mean that's the truth of the matter. The character who delivered that line is speaking from the human point of view, not the omniscient point of view.

Writing is simpleminded when what the limited point-of-view characters know is what's actually the case. It gets more interesting when they, and the audience, make assumptions that turn out to be completely wrong.

The simpleminded type of writing is common on TV because it's less confusing for the audience, but I'm hoping that TNT has more faith in the abilities of their audience to follow a more complicated story.

Cable audiences are usually treated with more faith, but this show seems to be straddling the line between network and cable writing (which no doubt will serve it well - plenty of shows have gone down in flames by overestimating the audience's ability to follow, or patience for, complexity).
 
So the aliens they are going up against are like the wraith in Atlantis? There was at first a small force to watch over the sleeping ones.
 
So the aliens they are going up against are like the wraith in Atlantis? There was at first a small force to watch over the sleeping ones.
Wouldn't it be like the main hive knocked down civilization and now a small force looks over the cattle.
 
So the aliens they are going up against are like the wraith in Atlantis? There was at first a small force to watch over the sleeping ones.

Sure, why not. Anything is possible. But scenarios that make the aliens more powerful are a problem because, where does the story go with that? The aliens are already more powerful than the militia can handle. Even if they destroy the ship over Boston, there's going to be many more across the globe just like that.

The fight is too one-sided, which is why my hunch is that, whatever the big twist coming up turns out to be, it will be something that equalizes the fight more, while increasing the complexity. That's how they'll be able to keep the story going without it becoming a repetitive bore.
 
Well what the history professor said is true. you make the fight to costly for the remaining forces. An example of that is the battle of 1812 when the british meant Jackson's troops near the mississippi. 4,000 troops held off something close to 23,000 british forces.
 
So the aliens they are going up against are like the wraith in Atlantis? There was at first a small force to watch over the sleeping ones.

Sure, why not. Anything is possible. But scenarios that make the aliens more powerful are a problem because, where does the story go with that? The aliens are already more powerful than the militia can handle. Even if they destroy the ship over Boston, there's going to be many more across the globe just like that.

The fight is too one-sided, which is why my hunch is that, whatever the big twist coming up turns out to be, it will be something that equalizes the fight more, while increasing the complexity. That's how they'll be able to keep the story going without it becoming a repetitive bore.
I agree with you there. I really hope this becomes more than just a humans vs. aliens shoot-em-up type series. It already is fairly well written, and intelligent IMO, so hopefully that means the writers are talented enough that they will be able to throw some unexpected twists at us.
 
Well there's still got to be perverts out there.

How wrong is it to try and rape a skitter before you kill it?

Would you stop that sort of rapist or cheer him on?

(This was handled on Battlestar, but robots are a different order of life than bug eyed beasties.)

Saving Skitters from inhumane objectification seems wrong?

But after 90 percent of man has been exterminated, and the gunships missed Deliverance Alabama, it kind of becomes "said" that god and evolution have spoken.
 
Well there's still got to be perverts out there.

How wrong is it to try and rape a skitter before you kill it?

Would you stop that sort of rapist or cheer him on?

(This was handled on Battlestar, but robots are a different order of life than bug eyed beasties.)

Saving Skitters from inhumane objectification seems wrong?

But after 90 percent of man has been exterminated, and the gunships missed Deliverance Alabama, it kind of becomes "said" that god and evolution have spoken.
It would be wrong to watch it happen, it makes you at least as bad as them, it takes away your humanity. Now killing one is an altogether different story, it is a war afterall.
 
^True gun collectors do everything legally. Batshit crazy survivalist militia types - not so much.

Trust me, I know people of both types.
I have to wait for On DEMAND on my system to catalog all the different illegal weapons the militia had. Its like they are game characters and eveybody choose his signature weapon. I heard "RPG" mentioned during the show. If they pull out a Soviet RPG with a Viet Cong rucksack full of rockets instead of a LAW I might throw something at my screen.
They do have AT4s, but I'm figuring that the writers are unintentionally being accurate by tossing the RPG name to anything that fires a rocket, much like most of the characters would due to not actually knowing all that much about military hardware (aside from the people with actual military experience and the professor).

It was more fun when we had to watch and remember these things for ourselves but Google brought me here. I guess I need to get something soft so I don't break my TV
 
Well there's still got to be perverts out there.

How wrong is it to try and rape a skitter before you kill it?

Would you stop that sort of rapist or cheer him on?

(This was handled on Battlestar, but robots are a different order of life than bug eyed beasties.)

Saving Skitters from inhumane objectification seems wrong?

But after 90 percent of man has been exterminated, and the gunships missed Deliverance Alabama, it kind of becomes "said" that god and evolution have spoken.
It would be wrong to watch it happen, it makes you at least as bad as them, it takes away your humanity. Now killing one is an altogether different story, it is a war afterall.

Forget the sex.

What about eating the bastards?

BBQing the SOBs.

Suddenly remembering the sex.

What's the bigger deterrent?

An enemy that will kill you, eat you or frakk you?

Or any combination of two of those options in a preferred order?

Our weapons suck, gotta rely a lot on Psychology if we plan on surviving another generation.
 
Okay I got it, it's so simple. The aliens are the Goa'uld. We haven't actually seen them yet - they live inside alien hosts, and the harnesses have something to do with preparing new hosts. But unlike the Goa'uld, these aliens can adapt a large number of species to their use. The Skitters and Mechs both are former conquered races. No doubt there are many more.

And yknow, Guy, you really need to take your ideas and come up with a sci fi series for Starz. I guess they are going to have Torchwood but I'm not sure that's going to be able to meet the sleazy and depraved expectations of an audience weaned on gladiator sex. :rommie:

("Weaned on gladiator sex," wow that sounded even worse than I intended.)
 
There's going to be a gladiator episode.

Where Mad Maxian Road Warriors force skitters to fight in old baseball fields.

Oddly enough, that was an episode of Torchwood where they put weevels in a cage and prodded them with sharp sticks till they killed each other.

I'm wondering how MacGyver or Michael Knight and KITT would suffer this new world? Would they change their non lethal policies? Imagine KITT coliding with Mechs, or MacGyver turning every swimming pool store in America into a hydrogen bomb.

That's what i really want. A post apocalyptic Alien cursed earth show that wanders through cancelled TV shows of old seeing how they cope with the end of the world.

Top of the list...

Spin City.

Fresh prince of Bel Air.

Ally McBeal.

Air Wolf.

Misfits of Science.

Thirty Rock

Chaos

Twin Peaks.

Married with Children
 
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