I hope the gay people of New York are smarter about this than you are and realize that although they might disagree with Obama on this one issue, he's a far better representative of their rights than any of the Republican alternatives.
Anderson Cooper called the President out on this issue. The critical question being in Bold. Good job Anderson.
Huffington:
Anderson Cooper called out President Obama on his Tuesday show for flip-flopping on gay marriage.
Obama is under increased scrutiny about his "evolving" views on gay rights in the wake of the battle for gay marriage in New York. Obama will be in the state on Thursday to attend a high-priced fundraiser with gay donors.
In his "Keeping Them Honest" segment, Cooper said, "New questions are being raised about what the president actually believes about gay marriage and whether his public opposition to it is real or just political posturing."
He then ran through the by-now familiar tale of President Obama's stance on gay marriage, from his initial written support for it in 1996 to his stated opposition to it when he began running for national office. (Obama advisers recently
told The Huffington Post that his current position on the issue is that it should be left up to the states.)
Cooper played footage from the recent Netroots Nation Conference, where White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer was
grilled about Obama's shifting statements about gay marriage.
"Hard to see how the president's position has changed so much," Cooper said. "The only thing that has changed is his need for a wider audience to vote for him."
I'm dying to know what an article (you didn't even include the
link to the video) where Anderson Cooper claims Obama switched positions has to do with the tiny part of my post above which you quoted out of context? You are aware that if you want to add a new article or post to the thread, you don't have to quote someone else's unrelated post, right? I know people have explained that to you before.
You do this all the time, and it annoys the hell out of people. They'll say one thing, and you'll come back with a non sequitur barely or not at all related to the quoted portion of their post.
How about instead of letting Anderson Cooper make your arguments for you (which was nothing more than a repeat of your flip-flopper comment in the OP anyway), you address the actual points I brought up in my post for a change?
I think you give the President way to much slack on his 'posturing on the issues,' as Anderson Cooper says on his TV program.
What slack? Did you read my post? I said I thought it was wrong for him to support a separate but equal situation vis-à-vis marriage and civil unions, and that he's going against the preferences of the majority of his party.
Just because you're completely incapable of seeing anything beyond an all or nothing, entitled view of politics where if you don't get EVERY single change you want none of the advances made in the meantime count for shit is not my problem.
You wouldn't be happy even if Obama did come out in favor of gay marriage, just like you weren't happy when he signed the DADT repeal bill you said he'd never do, and which you constantly criticized him for. You'd just move on to a new complaint. You're just a negative, glass is half empty type of person who would complain about the dollar you didn't get if someone gave you $99.
Again, pick your damn battles. Obama might disappoint you (and me) on this one issue, but he still otherwise supports equal rights. So you go for that and then work for more from there. You don't say "fuck it" and not vote or vote for a Republican who would quite possibly try to curtail your rights. That's crazy.
People in MISC don't childishly and cruelly ask someone to commit suicide without facing the consequences for it if they do - all for disagreeing with someone's opinion on a subject.
Yes, that's wrong for people to say, but how many times did it happen? A couple? Even though I disagree with doing it, you know they're not really serious, right? Don't let it get to you.
And people in MISC cannot call someone sophomoric names like 'darth tedious' for no good reason at all either without consequences.
You honestly have no clue why people get so irritated with you, do you? You honestly think it's just because they disagree with you and that they have "no good reason" to be frustrated by your debating style?
You were called Darth Tedious and Darth Tangent because you'd either keep hitting the same points over and over again no matter how many times you were proven wrong or you'd throw out 900 wild-ass tangents into the thread to cover for having a weak argument that was easily disproved. In the grand scheme of things those are pretty tame insults, and more criticisms of your pattern of behavior rather than you.
In other words, a place for grown ups to disagree minus the insults.
Grown ups debate things honestly and in a straightforward manner. They don't sidestep counterarguments that don't work in their favor, they don't try to cover for their poor arguments with non sequiturs, and they don't keep plodding along with the same complaints once they've been proven wrong.
Oh, and:
Learn it, use it, love it.
