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Italian PM Berlusconi tells Obama he's being persecuted

I just can't get enough:

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Well, Mussolini was kind of a special case, with the whole more-or-less-self-appointed-dictator issue. Beside, pre-1945 Kingdom of Italy had a completely different constitution from modern Italian Republic, so there is really no point in comparing them.
Yeah, I wasn't going to mention Mussolini, what with him being a dictator and everything, but when I checked Wikipedia to see if I was right about Berlusconi it said that he was second place after Mussolini, so I just threw that in there to be thorough. ;)

The parties in power basically never changed until they all collapsed in the early 1990's. There were just so many fights between the different factions within those parties that the government had to constantly be rebuilt. But it's always been the same parties that were in power (with only slight variations).
De Gasperi for example basically headed 7 "different" governments over the course of 8 years.
So if it's always the same people in power you can't really call that "unstable". You could call it "screwed up", though.
I'm confused. :confused: Were those 8 years successive but counted as 7 different terms because of reshuffles, or were they cumulative and he was in power for one year, then out for the next, then back again... and so on?

Screw it, Italy needs FPTP, that will fix everything. :p
 
De Gasperi for example basically headed 7 "different" governments over the course of 8 years.
I'm confused. :confused:
Imagine how we feel...

(I'll leave the historical research and explanation to Emilia because I am lazy and lack the will to delve into wiki, I mean, into my contemporary history books.)

Screw it, Italy needs FPTP, that will fix everything. :p
Italy and the UK should swap electoral systems, to taste each other's medicine... :lol:
 
That's encouraging, but whenever the next election come, his propaganda machine will be set in full power, and that is bound to influence people (stupid people, but still).

Owning and/or influencing more than 70% of tv channels, a few newspapers, and having 100x the funds of the opposition for the campaign... well, that's not easy to overcome.

Still, while there is life, there is hope.
 
The Spiegel claimed that it's the end of Berlusconi's reign but I, too, remain skeptical. And why don't you know when the next elections will be? I always though you had fixed terms (theoretically ;)).
 
Lulz. Theoretically, as you say, legislatures should last 5 years, but in the history of the Republic only a few legislatures ever lasted their full term. (Legislature were usually dissolved due to the impossibility of forming a government with the support of the majority of both Houses due to shifting of alliances or other reasons.)

So, yeah, elections can happen any time really.
 
You had Bill Clinton, but you insisted in impeaching him for lying under oath instead of buying him a beer. You can't complain now! :p

Pardon..the House of Representatives impeached him..with support of less than 40% of the electorate...

So I didn't impeach him..nor did most of my fellow voters..

It was seen as a distraction from Congress doing what it was supposed to do... and eventually cost Newt Gingrich any chance of the Presidency..(Like Chappaquiddick for Ted Kennedy)
 
De Gasperi for example basically headed 7 "different" governments over the course of 8 years.
So if it's always the same people in power you can't really call that "unstable". You could call it "screwed up", though.
I'm confused. :confused: Were those 8 years successive but counted as 7 different terms because of reshuffles, or were they cumulative and he was in power for one year, then out for the next, then back again... and so on?

Successive but counted as different terms because of reshuffles.
The reigning parties were always arguing internally and among each other. Elections could change the balance of power inside a party favouring one or the other faction.

(I'll leave the historical research and explanation to Emilia because I am lazy and lack the will to delve into wiki, I mean, into my contemporary history books.)

I was tempted to write a little essay there but then I remembered that I came home at around 4am last night. I can barely type. :p

Pah! You should all adopt our great electoral system. :p

Certainly a good idea. Best of both worlds.
 
Actually, your electoral madness has crept into some of the state electoral systems here. It's not STV but it also involves ranking candidates on lists and sometimes makes it necessary to have a small ballot booklet instead of a ballot paper. In the latter case (in Bremen), it really took days before the final results were known. Not that anyone cared about them in the first place. ;)
 
Now that I know something about Italian politics thanks to this thread, I find this Scandinavia and the World comic a lot funnier.
 
I don't know much about Berlusconi, but I do know I don't see TNZ... What's up with that?
 
Well, today it was just a warming up vote, the big one (formally asked by the President of the Republic to see if there still a majority in Parliament) will be tomorrow.

But I don't expect anything significant out of it: people who were willing to be bought are bought already, and the Lega Nord (junior partner in the governing coalition) showed some teeth but in the end fell pretty fast in line with the government. So the majority in Parliament will probably be small but significant enough for Berlusconi to survive for a while.

Oh well.
 
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