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Great epidose, strange line?

indolover

Fleet Captain
A line in Sins of the Father always creases me up:

"Commander, set course for the First City of the Klingon Imperial Empire." :lol:


It was a great episode, but I guess even writers make mistakes. :techman:
 
Or an overdose of epidermal cream peel?
And couldn't a bird of prey (I can't remember which classes can) land in the city??
 
Not a great episode, but first thing that came to mind

Riker: Increase speed to warp six!
Geordi: Aye sir, full impulse.

Later, Geordi is transferred to engineering instead of the helm. Coincidence? :vulcan:
 
"Klingon Imperial Empire"...care of the Department of Redundancy Department. :lol:

And couldn't a bird of prey (I can't remember which classes can) land in the city??

The smaller BOP (B'rel-class) can land; don't know about the larger K'vort-class.
 
Or an overdose of epidermal cream peel?
And couldn't a bird of prey (I can't remember which classes can) land in the city??

Yes, but "Imperial Empire" is a redundancy. like "Republican Republic" or "Democratic Democracy" or "National Nation." The adjective is just another form of the noun, and shows bad writing skills.
 
Course... maybe Klingons refer to a particular colony/planet as "City"?

Perhaps, Qo'nos being the capitol is the "First City"?

In related news, where is "Kling" and who are the "Traitors of Kling"?
 
Yeah, it's a stupid line all right. And I can understand a slip-up like that, a person can make a mistake like that.
What I don't understand is how it got all the way through, past a lot of people.

Moore wrote the script, yes? Then there are script coordinators, story editors, proofreaders, interns. And then even Stewart goes ahead, reads the script, and says the line. NO ONE caught it? How many eyes saw that line and didn't catch it?
 
I don't know if it happened in that episode or just others, but how they kept referring to the Klingon homeworld as "The Klingon planet" was really akward. I get that they probably hadn't named it, yet, but it would have sounded a whole lot better if they said "Klingon homeworld."
I'm just saying.
 
"The Naked Now" is hardly a "great episode" but the "horking up a tonsil-stone" noise Picard makes when talking to Beverly has got to be the strangest and oddest thing in the entire series as it's just there with no explanation whatsoever.
 
"The Naked Now" is hardly a "great episode" but the "horking up a tonsil-stone" noise Picard makes when talking to Beverly has got to be the strangest and oddest thing in the entire series as it's just there with no explanation whatsoever.


Its unexplained goofiness is part of its charm.
 
Plenty of countries have long official names, like the Democratic Republic of the Congo (which, of course, has Democratic and Republic together). It also seems likely that an Imperial Empire could denote an empire with an actual emperor rather than an entity that acts like an empire but has an oligarchy instead.
 
"The Naked Now" is hardly a "great episode" but the "horking up a tonsil-stone" noise Picard makes when talking to Beverly has got to be the strangest and oddest thing in the entire series as it's just there with no explanation whatsoever.

uuu huu humm?

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Plenty of countries have long official names, like the Democratic Republic of the Congo (which, of course, has Democratic and Republic together).

Strictly speaking, a democracy and a republic are two different things, while an empire and, uh, an empire are not.


It also seems likely that an Imperial Empire could denote an empire with an actual emperor rather than an entity that acts like an empire but has an oligarchy instead.

At that point, the Klingons had no Emperor though, which would turn the "Imperial Empire" into a misnomer.
 
^^^

Another possibility is that the universal translator accidentally translated for us a Klingon proper name as "Imperial" because that's what the name means. Just as you might say the Chinese Ming Dynasty, Picard might've said the Klingon Klorg Empire, but "klorg" is also the Klingonese word for "imperial."

Do I sound too much like, Timo?
 
Plenty of countries have long official names, like the Democratic Republic of the Congo (which, of course, has Democratic and Republic together). It also seems likely that an Imperial Empire could denote an empire with an actual emperor rather than an entity that acts like an empire but has an oligarchy instead.
Oligarchy, schmoligarchy. Nothing changes the fact that, in the English language, “Imperial Empire” is a tautology — like “famous celebrity,” “new innovation,” “dangerously unsafe,” or “kills bugs dead.”

Another possibility is that the universal translator accidentally translated for us a Klingon proper name as "Imperial" because that's what the name means. Just as you might say the Chinese Ming Dynasty, Picard might've said the Klingon Klorg Empire, but "klorg" is also the Klingonese word for "imperial."

Do I sound too much like, Timo?
Yes. :p

I love his rationalizations and retcons, though.
 
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