Oh you have not begun to see this show's woeful hairstyles!
Edit: In fact, maybe you should start a counter for every time you have a WTF moment over a character's hair.
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Edit: In fact, maybe you should start a counter for every time you have a WTF moment over a character's hair.
I'm just beginning my fourth full go-round on watching DS9. We're just finishing up the second disc, so the restart is still fresh in the mind.
We tend to rotate the Trek series and just finished up TNG and I was looking forward to getting DS9 underway. And it wasn't until the opening credits rolled that I realized HOW much I loved that DS9 theme music. I even commented to the wife that it was giving me goosebumps just hearing it.
Seeing the station just hanging there in space like a Christmas tree ornament, somewhat lonely and remote, serves to remind repeat viewers of how remote the station was at the start. And as pointed out, the season 4+ update to the opening continues telling the story that DS9 has become a hub of commerce and a war frontier, with the updated theme having a more militaristic, rhythmic approach to it.
Good stuff. Enjoy the ride. I know I will.
Harry
Yeah, original theme tune is a bit of a dirge compared to TOS, TNG, def VOY - probably my fave title seq & music. Hell, even ENT is better! The latter season reboot marginally better, but wish they'd come up with something else.
This is waaay over the top, but would have been EPIC for Dominion War arc
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmfNTdWtXHU&feature=watch_response_rev[/yt]
Kira's changing hair and outfits almost as much fun as Janeway's...
Interesting that Picard was archaeologist and Janeway scientist/science officer, so Sisko's engineering background seemed appropriate for DS9 in reconciling Cardassian and Fed technology (yeah, I know O'Brien did all the grunt work but I remember a few early eps where Sisko was hands-on too).
The latter season reboot marginally better, but wish they'd come up with something else. This is waaay over the top, but would have been EPIC for Dominion War arc
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmfNTdWtXHU&feature=watch_response_rev[/yt]
Kira's changing hair and outfits almost as much fun as Janeway's...
Interesting that Picard was archaeologist and Janeway scientist/science officer, so Sisko's engineering background seemed appropriate for DS9 in reconciling Cardassian and Fed technology (yeah, I know O'Brien did all the grunt work but I remember a few early eps where Sisko was hands-on too).
I actually kind of want to start a game comparing the number of bad hairstyles on DS9 to how many times Janeway's hair changes.
And apparently I shall need to watch DS9 over again since I remember nothing about this episode.
I do remember Kira's new hairdo though.
ETA: Opening credits, I just didn't like the music. Voyager's was much more soothing. But DS9's credits did get better.
And apparently I shall need to watch DS9 over again since I remember nothing about this episode.
I do remember Kira's new hairdo though.
ETA: Opening credits, I just didn't like the music. Voyager's was much more soothing. But DS9's credits did get better.
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I like that music, lurok. And you got the "keep on watching our show" coda from VOY in there at the end, too.
Did you know that both of them have written Trek books?
I'm not a big fan of Voyager's theme, but that could be because I'm not a big fan of the show. It's a nice piece of music to listen to, but I feel that there's too many ideas in there for it really to come together as a theme song. I think that DS9's theme, though more basic in some ways, fits better as a theme song.
Besides, when I hear the theme it reminds me of the pitch-perfect final scene of the show.
Okay, so I may have stolen my shtick from The Count.
Besides, when I hear the theme it reminds me of the pitch-perfect final scene of the show.
Hey, counting things is my shtick!
Okay, so I may have stolen my shtick from The Count.
I'd have to create an Excel spreadsheet to count things, and that would be too much like work.
Though I promise I'll meticulously over-analyze every mention of gambling.
I think the visuals for Voyager's opening are my second favorite for all the shows, right after ENT. Musically, It's TOS way above anything else, VOY is 2, TNG (nice music but it's a little too puffed-up sounding for my tastes) 3, DS9, then ENT.
Voyager's opening is interesting because there's just more happening visually. My favorite is the alien sunrise shot.
Though I promise I'll meticulously over-analyze every mention of gambling.
I think the visuals for Voyager's opening are my second favorite for all the shows, right after ENT. Musically, It's TOS way above anything else, VOY is 2, TNG (nice music but it's a little too puffed-up sounding for my tastes) 3, DS9, then ENT.
Voyager's opening is interesting because there's just more happening visually. My favorite is the alien sunrise shot.
I was glad Colm Meaney joined this show. He was given some decent storylines & showed what he could do with them.
Interesting what you said re: Avery Brooks. I remember reading they had him grow hair & shave the goatee so he didn't look like Hawk. Finally, by the later seasons he'd had enough & grew it back.
Love, love, love Garak. [You're so right. He really seemed to understand his character from the beginning.] One of my all-time ST faves.
They never leave the poor women alone. Lurok's right. Janeway's hair, Kira's hair. Even Dax's changed a bit midstream. Guess Odo will have to complain when his uniform collar changes in a few seasons, lol.
Ah the annual lets torture O'Brien episodes
I think the writers really looked forward to that time of year.
Yeah, that's it--the sun (or star, I guess) coming out from behind the moon of that planet. It's always breathtaking for me.
I actually feel sorry for anyone living on that planet, since they probably don't experience a proper night (beyond the occasional lunar eclipse), what with a flare nebula on the other side of that star. To say nothing of how bright it must get on the other side of that planet's orbit!
Oops! Here I go again, letting science get in the way of sci-fi beauty shots.
Well, I'm back, and even if I'm standing on my own, I'm going to talk about...
"A Man Alone"
Now I see where the criticisms of the first season are coming from. We start with Bashir trying to get a date with Dax. Then the O'Briens have a fight at Quark's. And Odo goes on a too-long-and-detailed rant against "coupling" from a guy who claims never to have coupled. Still, I think I've read one or two guys posting stuff like that in Misc, so who knows?
Funniest line of the night came from my wife. When Keiko said "I don't need favors from you," to O'Brien, my wife responded, "Actually, it kind of sounds like you do." We agreed that Starfleet's HR department is pretty screwed-up. I'm really surprised they don't have a system for finding jobs for "trailing spouses." Instead, she's going to play schoolmarm. Which I guess goes back to the "space western" idea, although she doesn't seem to have any real qualifications to teach. And it looks like Jake is stuck with 1st-graders at the end, too.
When she told Molly she wasn't old enough, all I could say is, "Why not?" It's not like she's got a curriculum she's got to keep every student on. Molly could just as easily have done pre-school in there--she looks like she's potty-trained. Is Keiko going to have to pay someone to babysit for her while she's teaching?
Oh yeah, there was a plot in this story. A man who Odo sent up the river comes back and, after a public scuffle with Odo, is MURDERED! While getting a backrub from a woman with webbed hands. Surely, that's an unhappy ending.
Given that Odo's the prime suspect, I called the surprise twist right away. Things just seemed too pat for any other explanation. It was either that or a mind-control device. Some laughs at watching the clone-thing in its first stage in the tank--it looked like it was farting at everyone. At the end, they just let the clone go off and start his own life? That would seem to have a few problems.
"Killing your own clone is still murder" isn't exactly Shakespeare, but I was thinking of stage drama a lot during this one. Both of us are trying to figure out just what's off in Avery Brooks' performance, and I think it's that he's still a little too theatrical, like he's acting on-stage. He seems to be talking over the heads of the people he's in scenes with instead of at them.
Nice to see Max Grodenchik as Rom. I had a really long talk with him at a convention last year, and I wasn't that familiar with his work. Good stuff.
The funny thing about this episode is that it was a funny mix of a police procedural and a western. The police aspect is, naturally, the murder and investigation, which even featured Sisko taking Odo off the case. When Odo was grousing about it, I yelled,"C'mon, that's what happens in every cop movie. Just turn in your gun and badge and start investigating on your own!" The western was the lynch mob that formed in front of his office.
At first I thought someone had written "Shitter" in his office, but it was just "Shifter." I'm glad they didn't trash his pail. But jeez, doesn't he have surveillance cameras in the Promenade? Or at least on the door of his office? You really shouldn't be able to get away with that kind of destruction in the future.
So this one was kind of predictable, though we had a few laughs, usually at the episode's expense.
"A Man Alone"
Now I see where the criticisms of the first season are coming from. We start with Bashir trying to get a date with Dax. Then the O'Briens have a fight at Quark's. And Odo goes on a too-long-and-detailed rant against "coupling" from a guy who claims never to have coupled. Still, I think I've read one or two guys posting stuff like that in Misc, so who knows?
Funniest line of the night came from my wife. When Keiko said "I don't need favors from you," to O'Brien, my wife responded, "Actually, it kind of sounds like you do." We agreed that Starfleet's HR department is pretty screwed-up. I'm really surprised they don't have a system for finding jobs for "trailing spouses." Instead, she's going to play schoolmarm. Which I guess goes back to the "space western" idea, although she doesn't seem to have any real qualifications to teach. And it looks like Jake is stuck with 1st-graders at the end, too.
When she told Molly she wasn't old enough, all I could say is, "Why not?" It's not like she's got a curriculum she's got to keep every student on. Molly could just as easily have done pre-school in there--she looks like she's potty-trained. Is Keiko going to have to pay someone to babysit for her while she's teaching?
Oh yeah, there was a plot in this story. A man who Odo sent up the river comes back and, after a public scuffle with Odo, is MURDERED! While getting a backrub from a woman with webbed hands. Surely, that's an unhappy ending.
Given that Odo's the prime suspect, I called the surprise twist right away. Things just seemed too pat for any other explanation. It was either that or a mind-control device. Some laughs at watching the clone-thing in its first stage in the tank--it looked like it was farting at everyone. At the end, they just let the clone go off and start his own life? That would seem to have a few problems.
"Killing your own clone is still murder" isn't exactly Shakespeare, but I was thinking of stage drama a lot during this one. Both of us are trying to figure out just what's off in Avery Brooks' performance, and I think it's that he's still a little too theatrical, like he's acting on-stage. He seems to be talking over the heads of the people he's in scenes with instead of at them.
Nice to see Max Grodenchik as Rom. I had a really long talk with him at a convention last year, and I wasn't that familiar with his work. Good stuff.
The funny thing about this episode is that it was a funny mix of a police procedural and a western. The police aspect is, naturally, the murder and investigation, which even featured Sisko taking Odo off the case. When Odo was grousing about it, I yelled,"C'mon, that's what happens in every cop movie. Just turn in your gun and badge and start investigating on your own!" The western was the lynch mob that formed in front of his office.
At first I thought someone had written "Shitter" in his office, but it was just "Shifter." I'm glad they didn't trash his pail. But jeez, doesn't he have surveillance cameras in the Promenade? Or at least on the door of his office? You really shouldn't be able to get away with that kind of destruction in the future.
So this one was kind of predictable, though we had a few laughs, usually at the episode's expense.
Hehhe, I just watched this episode, and I too found it funny, even if it was not intended to be funny.
While it gets a lot better later on, the first season is not bad, in fact it has one of the best episodes (Duet) and season 2 is very good.
Shatenertage, I will be trying to keep up with you on my rewatching (As I started a rewatch.)
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