I tend to give shows like Cleo2525 and Krod Mandoon and Buck Rogers some leeway as they were purposely made to be campy "B-Movie" fare.
worst sci-fi TV series of post 1964
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I tend to give shows like Cleo2525 and Krod Mandoon and Buck Rogers some leeway as they were purposely made to be campy "B-Movie" fare.
Actually yes it is. The 1980ish Buck Rogers was quite purposely made to be campy.
If that was the intent. It failed.
We need shows like that (the first season anyway, not that Star Trek ripoff second year) today.
Then that must mean all late 70's, early 80's shows were meant to be campy.
It was an action show with comedy, but not campy.
I think any 70s/80s SciFi, that isn't High drama and has obvious 70s/80s hair and attitude is going to appear campy to today's audience. But, there's a big difference between aiming for campiness at the time, and being seen as campy 30-40 years later by a new audience.
I don't believe Buck Rogers was aiming at Campiness, and don't think it was at the time, but, of course, it's a product of it's time, and could now easily be seen as campy (I own the box set, BTW, and enjoy watching S1, so this is not meant to be sleight on the show)
I don't know. I'm not sure BUCK ROGERS ever took itself too seriously. I mean, when you're doing episodes about intergalactic beauty pagents and cruise ships and Gary Coleman, I think you're deliberately going for a slightly goofy, kid show vibe.
Granted, it wasn't an out-and-out spoof like, say, QUARK or Adam West's BATMAN, but I think it was always meant as light, Saturday matinee entertainment with no pretensions to seriousness.
Which is fine. I actually prefered it to the old BSG just because BUCK ROGERS never pretended to be anything more than what it was. (As opposed to old BSG which was just BUCK ROGERS with delusions of grandeur.)
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Exactly. If characters in any show aren't raging sex fiends or alcoholics with mommy and daddy "woe is me" complexes, or bitching about some other damn thing every nanosecond, then today's audience finds that show campy.
Exactly - one has to be deaf to style and tone to believe the producers were taking Buck Rogers seriously.
I mean - "the off-thinking?" That was classic.
And it was so much more entertaining than oldBSG for that reason.
Kirk.
Scotty.
Spock.
McCoy.
...then today's audience finds that show campy.
Lost in Space was so much better than that stupid "dark and gritty" NBC competitor.
^ Yeah, and what about Kirk and Pike always bitching about the heavy responsiblities of command and wishing they could just retire to an island somewhere? Or Pike ending up a disfigured hulk trapped in wheelchair until finding an illusory paradise with an equally scarred and disfigured woman? Or Kirk finding out that his ugly, primitive side is what he needs to be captain? Or Chapel finding out that her first love has been resurrected as a soulless robot . . . ?
Nope, no angst or darkness there!
Nope, no angst or darkness there!
Expo67
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Hate to point this out to you, but the old BSG was a serious science fiction/fantasy adventure. A space opera that touched a nerve when it came to the origins of the human race, itself.
The only thing it had in common with Buck Rogers is the fact that it had the same producer.
One Glen A. Larson.
Christine Chapel's fiancee was an android near the end of that episode. Not a robot.
Old BSG serious? LOL ROFLOL LOL HAHAHAHAH Casino Planet LOL HAHAHA ROFLOL Cowboy planet LOL LOL Human race wiped out...no wait we find a planet full of humans almost every single episode. LOL LOL LOL You are such a pill! LOL LOL
What nerve would that be? Aside from the "you've gotta lotta" nerve of Erich von Daniken and his ancient alien fantasies.
Expo67
Captain
Exactly - one has to be deaf to style and tone to believe the producers were taking Buck Rogers seriously.
I mean - "the off-thinking?" That was classic.
And it was so much more entertaining than oldBSG for that reason.
Obviously, Bailey, you would not know good entertainment if it were right in front of you. Which goes to show that you, like RDM, are DEFINATELY from the Fred Frieberger school of television writing.
I would hate to see how Polaris will come out in the following months.
"Old BSG serious? LOL ROFLOL LOL HAHAHAHAH Casino Planet LOL HAHAHA ROFLOL Cowboy planet LOL LOL Human race wiped out...no wait we find a planet full of humans almost every single episode. LOL LOL LOL You are such a pill! LOL LOL
: rofl: "Judging by that last post, Aeolusdallas, I'm beginning to wonder how much LSD you dropped. It must have been a whopper!
"What nerve would that be? Aside from the "you've gotta lotta" nerve of Erich von Daniken and his ancient alien fantasies."
Simple, Silvercrest. One that humanity has always wondered about since the dawn of man. Where the human race had originated from. How mankind first began.
I wouldn't be so quick to condemn Erich Von Daniken and his ancient astronaut theories(which were similarly used in two Star Trek adventures - Who Mourns For Adonais? and How Sharper Than A Serpent's Tooth? - and the Space:1999 episode The Testament Of Arkadia). Let alone Glen A. Larson's use of them.
As Jim Kirk stated in the former Star Trek episode, "Most mythology has its basis in fact."
Anything in the universe is possible.
Who is to say that mankind did not evolve from the stars?
Just because some don't like that theory, doesn't mean that it should be discarded.
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Exactly - one has to be deaf to style and tone to believe the producers were taking Buck Rogers seriously.
I mean - "the off-thinking?" That was classic.
And it was so much more entertaining than oldBSG for that reason.
Obviously, Bailey, you would not know good entertainment if it were right in front of you. Which goes to show that you, like RDM, are DEFINATELY from the Fred Frieberger school of television writing.
I would hate to see how Polaris will come out in the following months.
"Old BSG serious? LOL ROFLOL LOL HAHAHAHAH Casino Planet LOL HAHAHA ROFLOL Cowboy planet LOL LOL Human race wiped out...no wait we find a planet full of humans almost every single episode. LOL LOL LOL You are such a pill! LOL LOL
Judging by that last post, Aeolusdallas, I'm beginning to wonder how much LSD you dropped. It must have been a whopper!
That's fresh coming from a poster who thinks old BSG is serious and nuBSG which was one of the most critically acclaimed shows of the last decade belongs in a "worst SCI-FI shows post 1964" Then there is you incredibly dishonest debating tactic in this thread. Not to mention your insistence that all remakes are bad. Even more amusing when you listed movies that were already remakes as if they were originals.
He's right that there was an improbable number of human populations out there. The RagTag Fleet was supposed to be the last survivors of humanity, but that became less impressive as they kept running into other humans. Again and again.
Expo67
Captain
Exactly - one has to be deaf to style and tone to believe the producers were taking Buck Rogers seriously.
I mean - "the off-thinking?" That was classic.
And it was so much more entertaining than oldBSG for that reason.
Obviously, Bailey, you would not know good entertainment if it were right in front of you. Which goes to show that you, like RDM, are DEFINATELY from the Fred Frieberger school of television writing.
I would hate to see how Polaris will come out in the following months.
"Old BSG serious? LOL ROFLOL LOL HAHAHAHAH Casino Planet LOL HAHAHA ROFLOL Cowboy planet LOL LOL Human race wiped out...no wait we find a planet full of humans almost every single episode. LOL LOL LOL You are such a pill! LOL LOL
Judging by that last post, Aeolusdallas, I'm beginning to wonder how much LSD you dropped. It must have been a whopper!
That's fresh coming from a poster who thinks old BSG is serious and nuBSG which was one of the most critically acclaimed shows of the last decade belongs in a "worst SCI-FI shows post 1964" Then there is you incredibly dishonest debating tactic in this thread. Not to mention your insistence that all remakes are bad. Even more amusing when you listed movies that were already remakes as if they were originals.
Dishonest debating tactic? Funny, I thought they were honest.
Don't you mean YOUR incredibly dishonest debating tactic? Might want to run a diagnostic on your PC's spell check.
Silvercrest, you may not remember this from the original BSG, but those small pockets of humanity that the Galactica and her fleet stumbled across were descendants of the lost 'Thirteenth Tribe' of Man that chose to seek out and find Earth, instead of colonizing the twelve colonies of man. So, in essence(or technically speaking), those small pockets also represent the last strain of humanity, despite their seperation from the survivors of the Cylon holocaust.
Umm, the better half and I always found "Quark" to be hysterically funny. We loved that it took the mickey out of itself (and science fiction for that matter).
Exactly - one has to be deaf to style and tone to believe the producers were taking Buck Rogers seriously.
I mean - "the off-thinking?" That was classic.
And it was so much more entertaining than oldBSG for that reason.
Obviously, Bailey, you would not know good entertainment if it were right in front of you. Which goes to show that you, like RDM, are DEFINATELY from the Fred Frieberger school of television writing.
I would hate to see how Polaris will come out in the following months.
"Old BSG serious? LOL ROFLOL LOL HAHAHAHAH Casino Planet LOL HAHAHA ROFLOL Cowboy planet LOL LOL Human race wiped out...no wait we find a planet full of humans almost every single episode. LOL LOL LOL You are such a pill! LOL LOL
Judging by that last post, Aeolusdallas, I'm beginning to wonder how much LSD you dropped. It must have been a whopper!
"What nerve would that be? Aside from the "you've gotta lotta" nerve of Erich von Daniken and his ancient alien fantasies."
Simple, Silvercrest. One that humanity has always wondered about since the dawn of man. Where the human race had originated from. How mankind first began.
I wouldn't be so quick to condemn Erich Von Daniken and his ancient astronaut theories(which were similarly used in two Star Trek adventures - Who Mourns For Adonais? and How Sharper Than A Serpent's Tooth? - and the Space:1999 episode The Testament Of Arkadia). Let alone Glen A. Larson's use of them.
As Jim Kirk stated in the former Star Trek episode, "Most mythology has its basis in fact."
Anything in the universe is possible.
Who is to say that mankind did not evolve from the stars?
Just because some don't like that theory, doesn't mean that it should be discarded.
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