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Anti British and Anti French views

No, now stop wrting about wanting illigal immigrants and know that not only the UK and Ireland would need that border, but the whole darn EU.
 
You're still sounding like you're high or something. UK has no more problem than anywhere else, in fact since it's an island it's harder to get here than into EU European countries.
 
So you think that it's fair to be a hypocrite and hold other countries to a standard you don't hold your own to?

now stop wrting about wanting illigal immigrants
Que? :confused: I don't want illegal immigration, I just don't fear it in any way.

and know that not only the UK and Ireland would need that border, but the whole darn EU.
...which is why I want our countries to join the Schengen area. :confused:
 
You're still sounding like you're high or something. UK has no more problem than anywhere else, in fact since it's an island it's harder to get here than into EU European countries.
Yeah, but I wouldn't get mad at us for blocking something like that. and that EU UK/Ireland border specific argument was almost as pointless as this retort.
 
You're now categorising your answers by degree of pointlessness? Well, it's refreshing but I suspect the dreaded T word might be whispered in the background.
 
You're now categorising your answers by degree of pointlessness? Well, it's refreshing but I suspect the dreaded T word might be whispered in the background.

Would it involve a person who tosses some coins?
 
Perhaps my fellow Europeans can help clarify if I'm right or wrong but mainland Europe is more to the left on the political spectrum whilst the UK leans more to the right.

That's an odd perception. The EU consists of so many different countries with different traditions and different political landscapes that it's impossible to tell in what direction it leans, politically. Also, what timeframe are we talking about here?

Sometimes, there are some overarching trends but they usually do also occur in Britain, like the more or less recent swing towards Conservative governments and the rise of right-wing populist parties disguised as EU skeptic.

It should be noted however that the previous Labour Government back in 97 made a move from the left of the political spectrum moretowards the centre i.e. a move to the right. of course in both the 97 and 10 election the electorate were sick of them and wanted them gone.

You can sort of tell how a country in general leans by looking at which party that holds office the most leans. true every now and then a party is elected to office that leans in a different direction.

The UK won't be alone with more extremist parties but as thr bulk of the ones in the UK are anti EU that does tend to indicate a disconnect between the electorate and those in office. The EU needs to do a better job of selling its positives to the citizens of the EU as I said earlier in recent times when the people have been asked to vote they vote no and thats not in the UK as the UK electorate hasn:t had a vote on recent EU legislation. But the EU could swallow whole threads in itself.

suffice it to say most people donMt have issue with nationalities they tend to have more issue with that nations govern ent. freedom fries instead of French Fries?
 
It should be noted however that the previous Labour Government back in 97 made a move from the left of the political spectrum moretowards the centre i.e. a move to the right.

Funnily enough, this was a general trend among Social Democrats in Europe at the time, though I'm not sure where it started.
Back in the day, there was even a manifesto about the whole neoliberalism/New Labour thing written by Tony Blair, Gerhard Schröder and another European Social Democrat I can't recall right now.
I also remember that after the 1997 election, the German Social Democrats put up some placards that said, "Congratulations, Tony! In xyz days (it was the number of days till the next general election in 98) we will do the same." And they did. It's a nice example of those pan-European trends I talked about earlier.


You can sort of tell how a country in general leans by looking at which party that holds office the most leans. true every now and then a party is elected to office that leans in a different direction.

Yeah - although I think that there are a number of countries where that's difficult or even impossible - but "mainland Europe" isn't a country. So, how would you measure its political leanings? Rate that of the individual countries and then calculate an average? Or count left and right countries and whatever political direction has more countries to its name, wins?
It just seems very odd to me to think of such a vast and diverse area as homogenuous. Some countries are more left leaning than the UK (e.g. Greece), others more right leaning, others pretty much the same. Some countries even lack the statistical basis in my opinion because they haven't been democracies for very long.
 
iBender said:
Freedom and Democracy started in England in the year 1215 with the creation of the Magna Carter in London.
I knew that it was called the Magna Carta back when I didn't even know what it was and thought it was a bloody boat (the Niña, the Pinta and the Magna Carta).

I thought maybe he had an idea for an awesome X-Men/Stargate crossover.

magnacarter.png
 
France - The only good thing about them is the French Foreign Legion.

I know the stupid title of this stupid topic is basically asking for it, but cut the shit.

What. The. Fuck. is that thread?
:wtf:
Well, as topic starter, I feel I must say something;

...remold the diplomatic framework of our community!

The winning nation shall, as a French knight of my acquaintance put it, taunt the loser a second time!
This post for me justified this thread, what you said about the diplomatic framework of this community; This right there opened the doors it seemed, for a mutual Anglo Franco dicussion where all was fair; How ever, the first sign I see of anybody ganging up on Shaytal because, she's like the only French poster here 'that I've noticed...' I'd ask for the thread to be closed, but hey, it's 2011, I say it's about time we look stuff square in the eye, and have fun... My patriotism is UK love, not French hate.
 
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