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How to control bodily responses

Deranged Nasat

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I'd like to ask for some general advice; medical, psychological, spiritual. As some of you know, I'm in the on-going process of trying to regain full control of my emotions, and this means I need to learn to control my body. For the last few years, I've been in a near-permanent state of physiological arousal (no sex jokes, please :p). My body's always primed for fight-or-flight without reasonable cause, and it really takes its toll on me. Not only do I hardly ever relax, but those odd times where I do find myself relaxing it feels so alien it's nearly intolerable, and I end up inducing a state of physiological alertness before even realizing I'm doing it. Naturally, I want to stop this and learn to "turn off" my physiological alarm system.

This state is artificial; it's a learnt response that became permanent, like the TARDIS being stuck on "blue police box" for camouflarge. In fact, my state of mind is aligned towards a sense of peace and non-aggression, and the physiological influence on my mood often leaves me torn between a "genuine" sense of my feelings and a "false" mood stemming from whatever my body's pumping, which I can't switch off. In my "normal" state, believe it or not, I'm actually not prone to extreme reactions - indeed, during my childhood, tantrums or large emotional displays were nearly unheard of. I did cry a lot, but even that was silent tears, never demonstrative. I was a quiet, controlled, peaceable boy. It even took me literally years to learn how to actively assert an opinion around other people, because challenging other people's worldview in any way struck me as an imposition, and I wasn't comfortable with "attacking" them. My response to being "attacked" myself was to assume either misunderstanding on their part or error on mine, and calmly aim to do better next time. Aggression had no part to play.

Now, I acknowledge that adolescence is obviously going to knock you around chemically, but I'm now settling into post-adolescence and my body is seemingly stuck on overdrive. For the last few years, not only am I constantly on edge but I'm jerked around like a puppet by bodily reactions that don't match up with my frame of mind, and confuse my mood. Any unexpected noise, for example, and I experience a massive rush of chemicals and nerve responses that really tax my body. I'm nearly always exhausted - sometimes I literally struggle to climb the stairs. And I'm always hovering on the edge of underweight no matter what I eat.

So, given how useful this little community is with advice and general observations, I ask you: how do you learn to control your body's response to external stimuli? Make it relax and ease it into a standard setting of non-arousal?
 
For the last few years, I've been in a near-permanent state of physiological arousal (no sex jokes, please :p). My body's always primed for fight-or-flight without reasonable cause, and it really takes its toll on me.

Does it feel like adrenaline, like a fire in your blood? Or do you feel it more in your mind, like a twitchiness?

Either way, do you have an outlet for this energy, such as a sport? Does it help at all?
 
For the last few years, I've been in a near-permanent state of physiological arousal (no sex jokes, please :p). My body's always primed for fight-or-flight without reasonable cause, and it really takes its toll on me.

Does it feel like adrenaline, like a fire in your blood? Or do you feel it more in your mind, like a twitchiness?

Either way, do you have an outlet for this energy, such as a sport? Does it help at all?

Adrenaline. Fire in the blood is a good description, and it's often not in line with what my mind is doing - though inevitably my state of mind is complicated or altered by it. And my actual energy levels are often very low even while my body's arousal is high.

As for the outlet question, I don't, which is my own fault - I don't play sport. I do walk long distances at speed (power-walking :lol:), as a form of exercise, and I often feel a compulsion to get walking and move, when I'm not too exhausted to do so.

It's like my body is in a permanent state of panic while my mind isn't - indeed, my mind's often in a "flat" state due to depression, and a complete 180 from the body. It is, to put it bluntly, inconvenient.
 
Well the difference between panic and excitement isn't that big, as they both involve adrenaline. You could try reinterpreting your feelings of panic, and transform it into something positive. Think of it as excitement, and direct that energy into something energetic, like running. It might help to raise your mood at the same time.
 
It is certainly possible for depression and an anxiety disorder to exist simultaneously. It is even possible for a person with certain types of bipolar disorder to experience mania and depression simultaneously, though it's not too common.

Now, one of the first things I do when I am experiencing a panic attack is to regulate my breathing.

It's also possible to move excess energy that is in your muscles and nerves out towards your extremities and out of your body--though I am not exactly sure what the basis of that is except to suggest that it has to be some sort of biofeedback I've learned to do, since I need stillness to do it. It's similar to when I get the hiccups and stop it with my mind.

Prayer and meditation are important to me, too. But it requires some care as to how you do it, I've discovered; the more you focus on how bad you feel, and how desperate you are, the more you get a self-perpetuating cycle. Prayers of thanksgiving and adoration are much better for me in times like that, to actually put myself (or at least, the part of myself causing the problem) aside.

Things to watch out for if you're trying to sleep...don't let your lack of sleep distress you. I know that's really, really hard, especially if you have to get in the morning, but if you let your lack of sleep upset you, you'll make it worse. Also, if you get "thought-fragments," obsessive worries that aren't really logical thoughts but that keep circling and circling and circling, there comes a point where you may need to get up and get yourself a glass of water or do some very small (not strenuous) task, and then try again once the obsessive thought is broken.

I'm not 100% sure whether I would qualify for a mental illness diagnosis or not, but that is how I have dealt with it without medications.

Bear in mind every person is unique, though. My belief is that the best treatment comes from a combination of secular and spiritual counseling (I think both perspectives are valid and useful), and medication if truly necessary. I think that all parties, in collaboration with the patient, should decide on that.

(Unfortunately mental health treatment does not often work that way in real life, but I think it should.)
 
It's also possible to move excess energy that is in your muscles and nerves out towards your extremities and out of your body--though I am not exactly sure what the basis of that is except to suggest that it has to be some sort of biofeedback I've learned to do, since I need stillness to do it

Yes! I do this, and I'm glad to have found someone else who describes the technique. :) I never know how to describe it other than as semi-conscious dispersion of clogged energy, and yes, it requires either stillness or - sometimes - excessive movement to agitate the nerves, then stillness to "pulse it out". "Pulsing" is a good term for how it feels when I shift a lot of energy in one go.
 
Have you tried guided meditations rather than just simple relaxation? When I was having difficulty coping with stress going to a guided meditation class did a lot of good for me. Nowadays you can download guided meditations from Amazon and probably other places as well.
 
It's also possible to move excess energy that is in your muscles and nerves out towards your extremities and out of your body--though I am not exactly sure what the basis of that is except to suggest that it has to be some sort of biofeedback I've learned to do, since I need stillness to do it

Yes! I do this, and I'm glad to have found someone else who describes the technique. :) I never know how to describe it other than as semi-conscious dispersion of clogged energy, and yes, it requires either stillness or - sometimes - excessive movement to agitate the nerves, then stillness to "pulse it out". "Pulsing" is a good term for how it feels when I shift a lot of energy in one go.

Hmm...I'm not exactly sure what term I would use for it myself. In my mind I perceive it as lights and darks much like I see sounds, and I think that maybe it's another form of synesthesia in addition to the ones that I already know I have, that is a further guide to me in what I do.

There's nothing pseudoscientific about synesthesia, of course; its existence is scientifically proven. The other part I suspect to be a type of biofeedback, which in my case may be aided by the coupling of my visual cortex to other parts of the brain.
 
@Deranged Nasat. Do you have trouble sleeping?

If so, then know that one of the symptoms of having surplus adrenaline is difficulty falling asleep. Adrenaline keeps your body alert and stimulated. An hour of strong physical exertion (running) on an evening would be good to burn it off. It will help you to sleep. Having good sleep is important. That alone could be responsible for your depression. :)
 
Deranged, have you and I talked about this before, or am I confusing you with someone else? What you describe sounds a lot like what I experience with PTSD.
 
I would really try speaking to a doctor of some kind about this. If you've got some kind of anxiety disorder, they may be able to help you--definitely more than talking to anyone on here who, though well-intentioned, aren't professionals and, in any event, couldn't diagnose you without physically examining you.
 
If so, then know that one of the symptoms of having surplus adrenaline is difficulty falling asleep. Adrenaline keeps your body alert and stimulated. An hour of strong physical exertion (running) on an evening would be good to burn it off. It will help you to sleep. Having good sleep is important.

Champion. This explains why I couldn't sleep last night :bolian:
 
Have you tried guided meditations rather than just simple relaxation?

On occasion. I'm not particularly good at it anymore (I had a rather jarring experience once while in deep meditation and it sort of soured me on the the whole thing). But I might pursue it again.

@Deranged Nasat. Do you have trouble sleeping?

If so, then know that one of the symptoms of having surplus adrenaline is difficulty falling asleep. Adrenaline keeps your body alert and stimulated. An hour of strong physical exertion (running) on an evening would be good to burn it off. It will help you to sleep. Having good sleep is important. That alone could be responsible for your depression. :)

Yes, I have great difficulty sleeping. I probably should take up physical activity in the evening (and I did of course assume that the problems I have with sleeping are due to my overly-alert body).

Deranged, have you and I talked about this before, or am I confusing you with someone else? What you describe sounds a lot like what I experience with PTSD.

We did indeed talk about it before, Ziyal, and I appreciated it. :)

I would really try speaking to a doctor of some kind about this. If you've got some kind of anxiety disorder, they may be able to help you--definitely more than talking to anyone on here who, though well-intentioned, aren't professionals and, in any event, couldn't diagnose you without physically examining you.

Thanks. I might then go ask a doctor, but I'm a litle wary of reducing things to a diagnosis - I'm not sure I'd trust attaching a name to what feels somewhat like a multitude of issues working in concert

Thanks for the advice, everyone. It's most appreciated. :)
 
I would try logic.

How is applied logic to govern the body's responses? The whole point of my post is to explain that my body's responses do not follow a rational framework, and that I'm seeking a means to realign its workings with reality. These are involuntary physical reactions I'm talking about. I already know when the response is unwarrented - my intellectual framework is dissassociated from the physical, which is my entire point.
 
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