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While watching Pixar's Ratatouille, I noticed something...

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I would actually argue the reason it's funny is because it's STILL a Male dominated society.
So if some kind of disaster were to wipe-out three-fourths of society's men, thereby creating a matriarchal society, there would eventually develop the potential for riotous humor in men striking ladies?

Nay, IMO. This sort of thing goes to our hard-wired instincts.

Well, I guess until that disaster happens, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
^ And if it does, and we both survive, and I turn out to be wrong, I'll buy you a round of beers to make up for it. :rommie:
 
Actually there are times when a man striking a woman has been used for comic effect, usually gender role reversal but not always.
 
There is a little known 1970s TV series titled: All That Glitters.

I remember it usually came on late at night..never in prime time. Remember this was the period of time when Three's Company was considered risqué. But as you may know the 1990's made the 1970s look like the 1950s, and we are currently living in the Dark Ages of moral compromise.

Anyhoo, All That Glitters is an alternate universe where women run society and men stay at home barefoot and pregnant.

It was quite the eye opener and if you can get copies of the episodes, I recommend it.

It may not have the same impact now it had back then though given women are closer to "male behavior" now then they were back in the 70s..
 
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I don't remember the scene in question, but acts of violence are never okay, regardless of who has perpetrated them. Also I've been rewtching Third Rock From The Sun, and there's a scene where Mary slaps Dick and he slaps her right back. I think there's some making out in between. I don't remember any outrage over that.
 
I don't remember the scene in question, but acts of violence are never okay, regardless of who has perpetrated them. Also I've been rewtching Third Rock From The Sun, and there's a scene where Mary slaps Dick and he slaps her right back. I think there's some making out in between. I don't remember any outrage over that.

Dick is not a man...he's an alien. That softens the social indignation of a man hitting a woman a bit. Furthermore I've noticed (in cinema and TV) if a man strikes a woman in response to her having struck him first, it tends to be OK for some reason. An eye for an eye I guess.
 
Surely the characters in question being animated "soften the blow" a bit as well.

Ah, but the characters in this animation are a reflection of real people, not aliens.

Granted, the line is drawn when a rat starts to cook meals, but as with all things marketed for children, what they (children) take from it (the movie) comes into question.

Little Susy may understand that real rats dont cook meals, but it's OK to slap little Johnny because an animated Collette did it without consequence.
 
Dick is an alien, pretending (and trying) to be a man. I don't understand why you are so insistent on picking and choosing.
 
Dick is an alien, pretending (and trying) to be a man. I don't understand why you are so insistent on picking and choosing.

Not only that but would Little Susy know the difference between an alien pretending to be a man and a man anyway?
 
we live in a female dominated society now (yes we do, admit it)
Bzzz! Wrong answer. You post is dismissed.

What is it with white dudes that they think they are oppressed and having a hard time?
Taking away arbitrary privileges = oppression. Just ask some Christians in western nations. (aaand now, with the inclusion of religion, we've got a full house of the usual debated topic. :lol:)

I gave up gentlemanly conduct when women gave up being ladies.

They can open their own doors, pay their own way and take life like a man. They want equality? I will give it to them. You cant have your cake and eat it too.
I see someone is bitter.
 
You can blow hot air from your mouth all day long, but talking about "reality" doesn't make it true.

People have reported to you numbers and figures about gender discriminations: job disparity, pay grade comparisons, violence (the real kind, not the one you see on tv), sexual objectification and glass ceilings. What you've got? Sit-com and cartoons.

Reality is not really on your side, mate.
 
You can blow hot air from your mouth all day long, but talking about "reality" doesn't make it true.

People have reported to you numbers and figures about gender discriminations: job disparity, pay grade comparisons, violence (the real kind, not the one you see on tv), sexual objectification and glass ceilings. What you've got? Sit-com and cartoons.

Reality is not really on your side, mate.

My existence has shown me different..so I guess it's all relative then huh?

I'll share this story with you: I once worked for a phone company. I was hired through the temp agency so I was being paid by the temp agency, not the company.

This was during the recession of the late 80s early 90s and the phone company wouldn't hire me directly even though I begged and the pay from the temp agency was shit.

I worked in the IT capacity. One secretary took a liking to me...which is fine. But I wasn't interested. I was also involved in with another girl at the time and I dont screw around.

She didn't take kindly to my rejection so one week she failed to turned in my pay paperwork to the temp agency. I didn't get paid for that pay period and I didn't find out until payday came.

Now, my circumstances were such that I was living hand to mouth, I NEEDED THAT PAY CHECK!! When confronted, she argued that it was not her responsibility since she works for the phone company and not the temp agency...although she had been doing this for several month already and never told me otherwise.

Fine, from that point on I submitted my own paperwork but I suffered during that pay period. I needed rent money, I needed food money...I needed money for the bus to get to work. I was completely broke and had no other resource to get help from. My girlfriend couldn't help me either since she was a college student financed by her parents.

I remember, I would buy a loaf of French bread, break it down the middle. The first half was for breakfast, the second half for dinner. That was it. Times were tight enough as they were but what she did just made it worse. Hunger pains are not pleasant.

I suffered because I bruised this woman's ego. Nothing more. I never flirted with her, or was overtly friendly to her in any way. I kept a professional attitude with her.

So dont talk to me about any fucking glass ceilings or the oppressed female. I treat ALL women now like I do men with no special consideration because they deserve none.

If that makes me bitter than so be it.
 
So someone was mean to you, so therefore society must be stacked against men?

Anyone in that job could have done the same thing if you pissed them off. Jesus :lol:
 
So someone was mean to you, so therefore society must be stacked against men?

Anyone in that job could have done the same thing if you pissed them off. Jesus :lol:

Obviously you have never been hungry. Not the "I just missed lunch" hungry but the "I havent had a decent meal in days hungry."

As for society, I see society made up of individuals..not as a whole entity. If female individuals in this society are capable of overt, discriminatory action then is it a reflection of their gender?

Men are universally labeled as assholes when it come to their interactions with women. Are all men the same? No, but we all get the same label right?

Therefore the "victim" label shouldn't apply to all women either. But they know it does, and they play it very well.

If that makes me bitter than so be it.
So it seems I was right. It's a cross I have to bear, I guess.

My condolences.

Sometimes "gifts" are personal curses.:)
 
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