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Riker-O'Brien disagreement?

Perhaps, like some people he would wait until he could see him by himself with no one else there to ask. What?

People can react a vareity of ways

1.>Say What are you talking about regardless of who is in the room
2.>Wait until they can see each other one to one.

And seeing as O'Brien is a noncomm, it only makes sense that his instinct would be to avoid having a public confrontation with a fairly high-ranking officer.
 
Well, it would have helped to start a new thread. Opening old threads is like stabbing the devil: his armies stab you right back! :devil: :devil:
 
I thought hard core trekkies would have a higher opinion of what it means to be a Star Fleet Officer.

:lol: I would think hard core Trekkies would be the ones to notice how appallingly incompetent and unprofessional Starfleet often is.

Maybe that's why the scene is confusing to so many. It's not that O'Brian acted inappropriately, it's that he acted outside of the pattern of sloppiness we've come to expect from the pajama brigade.
 
I thought hard core trekkies would have a higher opinion of what it means to be a Star Fleet Officer.

:lol: I would think hard core Trekkies would be the ones to notice how appallingly incompetent and unprofessional Starfleet often is.

Maybe that's why the scene is confusing to so many. It's not that O'Brian acted inappropriately, it's that he acted outside of the pattern of sloppiness we've come to expect from the pajama brigade.

HAHA!! Awesome :bolian:
 
Obrien, Sisko, and Dax are not afriad of her at all. Annoyed at times but not afraid. Technically she is not even Star Fleet. Her role of 1st officer is a bone for the Bajorans.

You seem to be forgetting DS9 is not Starfleet's space station - it's the Bajoran's space station. Kira is not just there to fill a seat in Ops.
 
It set's up in the audience's mind that something is amiss, but we don't yet know what.

Bingo!

Obrien is terrified of Kira.

Isn't everyone? ;)


No. Only week underlings and non Star Fleet officers like Quark are afraid of her. I am not even sure Quark is afraid of her. Perhaps at times.

Obrien, Sisko, and Dax are not afriad of her at all. Annoyed at times but not afraid. Technically she is not even Star Fleet. Her role of 1st officer is a bone for the Bajorans. I thought hard core trekkies would have a higher opinion of what it means to be a Star Fleet Officer. Obrien has faced death many times but he is supposed to get "uncomfortable" by some odd behavior just because his "first officer" is there? Really?? That is soo incredibly weak. Not only do these people accept this answer, they are quite smug about it and don't want anyone esle to discuss it ever! Like I said before, it says a lot about the character of the poeple flaming this thread to accept such an answer.

I thought it would be fun to come to the Star Trek forums to pontificate on plot holes and odd scenes. But it seems if some people accept an anwer the rest of us have to. People just cannot resist a thread they hate. And I guess the rest of us are not allowed to discuss it any further. I am disappointed. I grave dug a 3 year old thread and it pissed people off. But the scene is a decade old, not 3 years old! In fact ALL discussions on DS9 are old! The show has been off the air for years! Accept it.

You know, I was just trying to lighten the mood of this thread. :rolleyes:
 
I am sure as the chief engineer, whatever he was doing on the most important ship in the area wasn't important at all. Kira's (off duty) unofficial tour with Riker was much more important. He was uncomfortable. Yes. They are old friends. Been in life and death situations. But when Riker tells Obrien he won't even speak to him and he knows why, he would never question him because he is "uncomfortable" in front of Kira. Doesn't want to "start drama". Are you kidding?
Nobody said he wasn't planning on questioning Riker. He was just waiting for a more reasonable time to do so. Only a complete putz drags up a potentially bitter personal conflict with somebody in the middle of their date. All human decency and dignity says to deal with it later in private.
 
I am sure as the chief engineer, whatever he was doing on the most important ship in the area wasn't important at all. Kira's (off duty) unofficial tour with Riker was much more important. He was uncomfortable. Yes. They are old friends. Been in life and death situations. But when Riker tells Obrien he won't even speak to him and he knows why, he would never question him because he is "uncomfortable" in front of Kira. Doesn't want to "start drama". Are you kidding?
Nobody said he wasn't planning on questioning Riker. He was just waiting for a more reasonable time to do so. Only a complete putz drags up a potentially bitter personal conflict with somebody in the middle of their date. All human decency and dignity says to deal with it later in private.

plus a senior NCO will wait till a private moment to ask a "WTF" as you don't do that in front of a number of officers.
 
Here, I'll clear it all up for all time (yeah right)

Tom: (Oh shit not only is it a guy from the Enterprise, but the transporter Chief. He probably spent days on the technical debrief concerning my creation AND he knows Will pretty well. He's gonna see through me right way. Think fast Tommy Boy.) "Bugger off, you know why!"

Miles: (Oh shit, I can't believe he's still pissed at me for leaving the Enterprise. I thought that 'I'll never forgive you' goodbye speech was a joke.) "I've got no idea what he's mad about."
 
Here, I'll clear it all up for all time (yeah right)

Tom: (Oh shit not only is it a guy from the Enterprise, but the transporter Chief. He probably spent days on the technical debrief concerning my creation AND he knows Will pretty well. He's gonna see through me right way. Think fast Tommy Boy.) "Bugger off, you know why!"

Miles: (Oh shit, I can't believe he's still pissed at me for leaving the Enterprise. I thought that 'I'll never forgive you' goodbye speech was a joke.) "I've got no idea what he's mad about."
:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:
 
What the...?!

Three year thread bump? And it continues stronger than before? Maybe the rapture did happen.
 
The only evidence for the rapture even being a possibility would be if it continues to be needlessly bumped.
 
The Rapture did happen. It happened back in early Jan 1997. I don't know what everyone's getting so worked up about. Contrary to all doomsayers predictions though, the rapture followed the trials and tribulations, err, tribble-ations, though.
 
Yup. BUMP! Wasn't going to since this thread is so old but this is the main reason I came here, to find the answer to this question.

Usually in a forum a stupid question is asked, a link to the faq is provided (which ACTUALLY has the answer) and a series of overused memes are then spammed with vast amounts of smugness. I know, I've seen it.

The answers provided in the FAQ are not answers. They are weak, speculative, and nonsensical. The scene implies they had some sort of past, that there was an incident. There was no incident. There is no past. It was just a bad scene, bad writing.

I guess hard core trek fans don't like this question. It has been asked a bunch of times. Too bad. There is a reason it's asked a lot. It is a good question and there is NO answer. I am disappointed in the answer, but I am more disapointed in the response. I always find it funny when people hate a thread yet contribute to it bumping it up the ladder with yet another facepalm.

It was an awkward scene, but it was clear to me that Thomas was just trying to get rid of somebody who could see through his plan-- and so he made him uncomfortable. O'Brien is clearly confused, but he leaves anyway.

Oh, and calm down--- people like using face palms and "oh no" images because they are funny (and this topic is truly a dead horse around here).
 
I read a theory somewhere that O'Brien was actually helping the Maquis, hence why he was on the Defiant, and that is why Riker behaved so abrasive towards him, and O'Brien didn't talk back or question him- as to illude any suspect that he may be involved at all.

Going with the theory that Riker said what he did to prevent O'Brien from realising it wasn't true Riker-wouldn't his outburst at him cause more suspicion than just have saying something along the lines of "I'm busy right now/talk later/see you later", rather than say what he did. If anything it was more risky because O'Brien could have started questioning him, or brought it to other staff members.

Also the way he added "and you know why", was proper creepy because what is the reason? Did O'Brien think he'd done something wrong, that leaving the enterprise made Riker really angry...it was just so out of place, and it looked like it was intending to lead somewhere but never did... fuming, i hate this, i wish they had addressed it again....but then again I love drama lol!
 
Must be some sort of record a 6 year bump. ;)

First of all welcome to the boards Hirdy, as you're still finding your feet here a helpeful tip for future referrence reviving threads which have been in-active for over a year is generally frowned upon. If you have something new to add to a topic such as this it is preferred that you start a new thread.

That being said enjoy your time on the boards.
 
First of all welcome to the boards Hirdy, as you're still finding your feet here a helpeful tip for future referrence reviving threads which have been in-active for over a year is generally frowned upon. If you have something new to add to a topic such as this it is preferred that you start a new thread.

That being said enjoy your time on the boards.

Well, I'd say that pretty well covers it. However, I do like to give new recruits a free pass on their first thread necromancy so I'll leave this open for now. Welcome aboard!
 
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