May 21, 2011 rapidly approaching, doomsday - ready?
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Oh? I don't know much about Lutherans.
In retrospect, that was obviously too sweeping a generalization. I should have said "many" rather than "most."
By and large since the onset of non-denominational, fundamentalist, conservative, Darbyist, or RTC (meaning "Rapture Theology Christians" or "Real True Christians) in the last 100 years, Christianity has become regrouped into about three distinct groups in the US:
1.) The Oriental Orthodox and Eastern Orthodox Churches. They are two groups of autocephalus Churches who worship according to ancient Rites, and largely have little to do with ecumenicism or public proclamation of their faith.
2.) Western mainline Christianity, which includes the 22 Particular Churches of Catholicism, the Anglican Communion (and many of its splinters), Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, and so forth. The bulk of the denominations in this category adhere to the Nicene, Apostles', or Athanasian Creeds.
3.) The "in-your-face," "are-you-saved-like-me?!," Joel Osteen, Pat Robertson, Rapture Theologists.
If you belong to groups one or two, every Sunday you probably recite a prayer that has a line in it that goes something like, "I (we) believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church." If you're in group one or two, you know you recite this prayer on Sunday, and you believe in the Rapture, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.
Rapture theology is incompatible with all Christian denominations that profess one holy catholic and apostolic church. It is a heresy in these denominations. If your pastor is preaching Rapture theology yet you profess one holy catholic and apostolic church, contact his superiors IMMEDIATELY. No Creedal Christian should be doing what the people in that NPR report did. No Creedal Christian should be preparing for the Rapture on 5/21. Creedal Christians should be assured of their salvation through the grace of their baptism and as witness of their salvation they should continue to be doing good works and continue living properly through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
If you've dropped everything because you believe you'll be Raptured on 5/21, that would actually be evidence AGAINST your salvation.
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Are you sure about Joel Osteen? I actually quite like him, even though I wish he'd take a more firm stance in favor of gay marriage (he had nothing against it until the Evangelical community pushed). In fact, one of the very reasons I like him is that he's disliked by so many of the hardcore fundamentalists. They berate and mudsling at Joel, which endears him to me more than a bit. I also like his very positive approach to his faith.
^ There's something about Joel Osteen that just ... doesn't sit right. He looks like a Romulan. 
And I am well aware that they are theologically inaccurate (and the prequels are flat-out lame) but by and large I like the Left Behind novels.
And I am well aware that they are theologically inaccurate (and the prequels are flat-out lame) but by and large I like the Left Behind novels.
How can anything be "theologically inaccurate"?
Bring it on I say. If the four horsemen want a fight, I'm going to give them one
Well, sweeping generalizations aside....my point was really about the decline of traditional Protestant historicism, and the rise of "rapture theology," as you call it--among Protestants. And how, ironically, Seventh-Day Adventists are some of the most prominent defenders of the traditional interpretation, despite the Great Disappointment.
Obivously Catholics have always held a rather different view, and are unlikely to subscribe to a belief system in which their own church and its leader have been identified frequently with the Beast and the Whore of Babylon.
I personally don't give any credence at all to any Christian prophecy. In fact, I once sat down and worked out a complete alternative interpretation of Revelation, which "proved" that it "really" predicted the Christianization of the Roman Empire and the Middle Ages. Just to show that it could be done, and that Revelation could be interpreted to mean--well, anything, really.
Oh trust I'm not. I just wish I was in the bus shelter/bill board sign sales businesses to reap some of the financial benefits form the end of times announcements.
Well.. I'll be going to see Avery Brooks at a con on the 21st. Hopefully this won't happen before I get to see him.
At the risk of derailing my own thread but curious minds want to know, generally how is Brooks to meet [does anyone know] and what are his opinions of his character Sisko? I love DS9, my personal favorite in Trek and watched Brooks grow into the character. [from over reaching stage actor into the beginning to someone who grew into it]
The couple of times I met him he was gracious, patient with the fans, and had a good sense of humor. Seemed to enjoy, at least in these instances, his role as Sisko. I also saw him sing at the Carlyle in NY - pretty good singing voice too!
Talks like one too.^ There's something about Joel Osteen that just ... doesn't sit right. He looks like a Romulan.
I've not read them, but I might read a few just for the pure entertainment value.
Likewise, but on the 22nd. Unless this actually happens.
These people are liars because the Bible clearly states only God knows the day and hour when He shall return and I highly doubt He told them.
Also they predict after Jesus' return on 21 May the world will officially end in Oct 2011. Well that is contrary to what the Bible states. After the rapture the world will endure 7 YEARS, not months, of Tribulation.
I am a Christian and believe in the rapture, but I don't believe it will happen on 21 May because God said "NO ONE KNOWS" therefore these folks are liars.
Also they predict after Jesus' return on 21 May the world will officially end in Oct 2011. Well that is contrary to what the Bible states. After the rapture the world will endure 7 YEARS, not months, of Tribulation.
I am a Christian and believe in the rapture, but I don't believe it will happen on 21 May because God said "NO ONE KNOWS" therefore these folks are liars.
Well if the rapture DOES happen it will just be a somewhat shorter line for the autographs.
These people have used bible quotes they claim support their claim. The guy Geroge had on Coast quoted several quotes...and then the callers basically quashed him lol. Yeah so George is putting out invitations for that guy to come back on the May 24th show and he put a offer out to the guy that wrote the book they all follow. I can't recall his name now.
