Moffat - "you can imagine how much I hate them"

[Bob The Skutter]

I wonder why productions like Doctor Who don't engage in disinformation to counter spoilers and keep fans guessing. It shouldn't be hard to do, just lie every now and then in an interview, or stage a few "behind-the-scenes" photos intended to be leaked.

"I think the fans will really get behind the new paisley Dalek," Moffat enthused in a recent interview. "Matt thinks they're cool!"

Yeah I wonder this as well. I know when either Life on Mars or Ashes to Ashes was finishing they talked about filling two endings to throw people off but it was BS because apparently they could only afford to film one!

Of course sometimes people just get spoilers plain wrong, I still recall that Harriet Jones was supposed to be inside the Supreme Dalek, and I'm still glad that the identity of who knocked four times was kept really secure.

RTD once said the phone scandles and the thing with the Queen made the BBC very twitchy about them lying to the audience about anything, he said sod it and did it anyway, but the BBC wasn't very happy about it a lot of the time. So that might account for the fact that there's not a lot of disinformation and false spoilers actively put out by the production team.

 

[PorthosShadow]

I wonder why productions like Doctor Who don't engage in disinformation to counter spoilers and keep fans guessing. It shouldn't be hard to do, just lie every now and then in an interview, or stage a few "behind-the-scenes" photos intended to be leaked.

"I think the fans will really get behind the new paisley Dalek," Moffat enthused in a recent interview. "Matt thinks they're cool!"

Yeah I wonder this as well. I know when either Life on Mars or Ashes to Ashes was finishing they talked about filling two endings to throw people off but it was BS because apparently they could only afford to film one!

Of course sometimes people just get spoilers plain wrong, I still recall that Harriet Jones was supposed to be inside the Supreme Dalek, and I'm still glad that the identity of who knocked four times was kept really secure.

RTD once said the phone scandles and the thing with the Queen made the BBC very twitchy about them lying to the audience about anything, he said sod it and did it anyway, but the BBC wasn't very happy about it a lot of the time. So that might account for the fact that there's not a lot of disinformation and false spoilers actively put out by the production team.

That's kind a strange attitude because it's not like the audience is being deceived about something that impacts their lives. It's a freaking TV show, not life and death. Also, when the audience is being "lied" to regarding a TV show, we know we will get the truth in short order. I can't say the same for the government methods of lying to it's people.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Yeah I wonder this as well. I know when either Life on Mars or Ashes to Ashes was finishing they talked about filling two endings to throw people off but it was BS because apparently they could only afford to film one!

Of course sometimes people just get spoilers plain wrong, I still recall that Harriet Jones was supposed to be inside the Supreme Dalek, and I'm still glad that the identity of who knocked four times was kept really secure.

RTD once said the phone scandles and the thing with the Queen made the BBC very twitchy about them lying to the audience about anything, he said sod it and did it anyway, but the BBC wasn't very happy about it a lot of the time. So that might account for the fact that there's not a lot of disinformation and false spoilers actively put out by the production team.

That's kind a strange attitude because it's not like the audience is being deceived about something that impacts their lives. It's a freaking TV show, not life and death. Also, when the audience is being "lied" to regarding a TV show, we know we will get the truth in short order. I can't say the same for the government methods of lying to it's people.

Makes about as much sense as the BBC News team not being allowed to make fake news reports for David Mitchell's show The Bubble because it might confuse the audience, yet being allowed to make fake news reports for shows like Spooks. Surely there's more danger in the public being confused by a news report about a nuclear attack than a funny news story for a comedy show.

 

[PorthosShadow]

RTD once said the phone scandles and the thing with the Queen made the BBC very twitchy about them lying to the audience about anything, he said sod it and did it anyway, but the BBC wasn't very happy about it a lot of the time. So that might account for the fact that there's not a lot of disinformation and false spoilers actively put out by the production team.

That's kind a strange attitude because it's not like the audience is being deceived about something that impacts their lives. It's a freaking TV show, not life and death. Also, when the audience is being "lied" to regarding a TV show, we know we will get the truth in short order. I can't say the same for the government methods of lying to it's people.

Makes about as much sense as the BBC News team not being allowed to make fake news reports for David Mitchell's show The Bubble because it might confuse the audience, yet being allowed to make fake news reports for shows like Spooks. Surely there's more danger in the public being confused by a news report about a nuclear attack than a funny news story for a comedy show.

Not getting on a political soap box here but doesn't the government have more pressing issues to deal whether or not a TV show protects it's story lines? Personally, I appreciate the care and effort that goes into preventing spoilers. Because of the Internet, it's really difficult to remain spoiler free and no matter how old I get, I still love to be surprised.

 

[Skywalker]

I don't understand why some people actually go out of their way to uncover spoilers. I mean, why would you want to know ahead of time what's going to happen? That's kind of going against the whole point.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

That's kind a strange attitude because it's not like the audience is being deceived about something that impacts their lives. It's a freaking TV show, not life and death. Also, when the audience is being "lied" to regarding a TV show, we know we will get the truth in short order. I can't say the same for the government methods of lying to it's people.

Makes about as much sense as the BBC News team not being allowed to make fake news reports for David Mitchell's show The Bubble because it might confuse the audience, yet being allowed to make fake news reports for shows like Spooks. Surely there's more danger in the public being confused by a news report about a nuclear attack than a funny news story for a comedy show.

Not getting on a political soap box here but doesn't the government have more pressing issues to deal whether or not a TV show protects it's story lines? Personally, I appreciate the care and effort that goes into preventing spoilers. Because of the Internet, it's really difficult to remain spoiler free and no matter how old I get, I still love to be surprised.

It's not the government saying they can't do that, it's the BBC themselves. They've had a lot of bit scandals lately, and they are trying hard, too hard in my opinion, to not give the tabloids any ammunition to throw at them.

 

[PorthosShadow]

I don't understand why some people actually go out of their way to uncover spoilers. I mean, why would you want to know ahead of time what's going to happen? That's kind of going against the whole point.

Yeah and a lot of times I go out of my way to avoid spoilers for a TV show but if I "accidentally" happen upon one it's not a big deal, just a bit of a let down.

 

[StCoop]

As I recall the BBC released photos of the Doctor being shot and starting to regenerate the night before the series started, which was one of the things Moffat says he wanted to keep secret.

So does he "hate" his employers too?

 

[Bob The Skutter]

^Yes, yes he does.

 

[Cyke101]

I hope all those people who would rip in to RTD for making even the most mildly negative comment about any section of Fandom will show the same response here.

To be honest, if RTD said the same thing Moffat did, I'd support him 100% as well. While people are free to enjoy the show however they want, if it's at the cost of other people's enjoyment and/or it interferes with how creators want viewers to at least judge the show, then there's a problem.

 

[Takeru]

I truly feel for him, ...

I don't. The reason spoilers got out was because he and the BBC showed the episodes to fans to get free publicity, it's their own fault.

It's like telling a little girl "You and your sisters are getting a pony for christmas, look at it, touch it, isn't it awesome? You wanted one for years, but don't tell your sisters!" and then getting angry when she does tell her sisters. Of course she was going to ruin the surprise, she's a girl who wanted a pony!

It's not rocket science, if you don't want fans to spoil the entire plot, don't give them access to the entire plot.

 

[MacLeod]

Well given that DW is a British show, wouldn't the writters be nore concerned about spoilers in their home market. Rather than say what a foreign broadcaster shows?

 

[Psion]

I don't understand why some people actually go out of their way to uncover spoilers. I mean, why would you want to know ahead of time what's going to happen? That's kind of going against the whole point.

Well, it's a bit like detective work. It's a challenge. And it's fun to know things before anyone else does. In my case, I loathe hearing story spoilers, but I can't resist the lure of art department stuff. There's a new Enterprise? SHOW ME NOW! There's a link showing pictures of the new TARDIS interior? That thing's opened before I think about it! While those are the rules that apply to me, I'll be damned if I'll apply them to someone else, and it's as much Moffat's and the BBC's responsibility to keep spoilers from prying eyes as it is the duty of fans to resist temptation.

 

[PorthosShadow]

I don't understand why some people actually go out of their way to uncover spoilers. I mean, why would you want to know ahead of time what's going to happen? That's kind of going against the whole point.

Well, it's a bit like detective work. It's a challenge. And it's fun to know things before anyone else does. In my case, I loathe hearing story spoilers, but I can't resist the lure of art department stuff. There's a new Enterprise? SHOW ME NOW! There's a link showing pictures of the new TARDIS interior? That thing's opened before I think about it! While those are the rules that apply to me, I'll be damned if I'll apply them to someone else, and it's as much Moffat's and the BBC's responsibility to keep spoilers from prying eyes as it is the duty of fans to resist temptation.

Yeah, I have to admit that I went out of my way to see what the new TARDIS looked like before it aired. However, that was only because it would be about a month before "The 11th Hour" aired here.

 

[Samurai8472]

Semi offtopic

I remember when filming for series 5 began on June/July 2010

The crew were filming "The Time of Angels" near a vacation spot

Moffat was on set and checked out pictures someone had snapped at that location.

Moffat got a little scared when a photo of him standing right there had been uploaded


Fan- Uploading image now. The eagle has spotted the target.

 

[StCoop]

Oh look, DW Brand Manager Ed Russell confirms that the Today Show's report's multiple spoilers, sorry "teasers", were done with their consent.

http://twitter.com/#!/edwardrussell

(He also pretty much confirms the accuracy of the

Spoiler: Oh No, It's A SPOILER!

scene shot recently that reveals River is Amy's daughter

I guess Moffat will have to hate him too now...

 

[Lonemagpie]

According to Twitter it's actually just that last one - somebody filmed the filming for episode 13 on a cellphone, and spread the word - that got him mad enough to go off on one for the microphone...

But what can you say? He's from Paisley...

 

[StCoop]

According to Twitter it's actually just that last one - somebody filmed the filming for episode 13 on a cellphone, and spread the word - that got him mad enough to go off on one for the microphone...

Thing is it's something people have been guessing since before Series 5 even aired.

Maybe he's just embarassed at how predictable he turned out to be.

 

[Skywalker]

I don't understand why some people actually go out of their way to uncover spoilers. I mean, why would you want to know ahead of time what's going to happen? That's kind of going against the whole point.

Well, it's a bit like detective work. It's a challenge. And it's fun to know things before anyone else does. In my case, I loathe hearing story spoilers, but I can't resist the lure of art department stuff. There's a new Enterprise? SHOW ME NOW! There's a link showing pictures of the new TARDIS interior? That thing's opened before I think about it! While those are the rules that apply to me, I'll be damned if I'll apply them to someone else, and it's as much Moffat's and the BBC's responsibility to keep spoilers from prying eyes as it is the duty of fans to resist temptation.

Well, I was referring mainly to story and character spoilers. I don't really consider seeing the new Enterprise or the new TARDIS before the show begins as a 'spoiler.' I like to see the new Enterprise or TARDIS ASAP, too.

 

[Neroon]

Meh - I am not a spoilerphobe, especially good since I'm a moderator. What I cannot abide is the attitude some persist of just posting them without regard to fans, artists, authors, and other interested parties. Even so, the overkill kind of reaction we often see to revealed spoilers is almost as ridiculous.

I knew several things before Series 6 started, in large part due to what was revealed in here and my having to be up on things in the forum. It hasn't lessened my enjoyment of the work of Moffat, Smith et all one bit. Some folks get an even greater enjoyment out of the chase for spoilers, such as Psion explains. That's all cool, too.