Awesome, I haven't tried in a long time.
Firefox 4
- Thread starter Owain Taggart
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Awesome, I haven't tried in a long time.
The core of the problem is, apparently, the Windows API for drawing text in any hardware accelerated program (DirectWrite). IE9 has the same issue. It seems to depend on some other variables as well, the fonts were unacceptably blurry on my work machine with a year old ATI card, but much better on my home machine with a 4 year old Nvidia (both Win7 64).
Personally, I'm staying with Chrome for now, but I really liked the ability to see tabs open on other computers... if I'm in the middle of reading some stuff at work, I can just pick up where I left off without making throwaway bookmarks.
I'm enjoying it so far...although it keeps on messing around with remembering my passwords for some reason. I've had to reset all my previous parameters.
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maria3johnsons
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I am also not much happy with Firefox 4. Look-wise it is awesome but FF4 is not much good while working as far as my experience. Its getting hang when I use more than 2 tabs, now have to reinstall FF3!
^ I'm seriously debating about reinstalling FF3.
You seem rather happy with it then.
Oh no, you seem to have changed your view point in the six hours that those two posts were made.
I've decided to stick with FF3.6 for now.
I second Netflix on Chrome. I hadn't tried it until this past weekend, when my girlfriend came over and she has a Netflix account. My computer is crap (old Pentium 4) and Netflix worked great under Chrome. Even fullscreen HD playback was smooth.
Sometimes I use Hulu Desktop and I have to turn down the quality to run it fullscreen and it's still kinda choppy.
Honestly, I'm tempted to get a Netflix subscription now just so I can do the streaming, now that I know the quality is also superb on my crappy old computer.
Reading the comments here, I'm glad I decided to stick to my policy - adopted after installing a Mac system upgrade a couple years ago that disabled several programs I needed for my work, forcing me to do a reinstall of my original OS - to wait at least 3 months before installing "upgrades" of system software and new versions of things like browsers until a) the bugs are worked out and b) I hear the horror stories.
Biggest lesson I've learned as a computer user - and it took me much longer to learn it than it should have - is to not jump when automatic update (Windows and MacOS both have them) says you must install something right away. Unless it's a "super critical, your computer will explode if it's not updated" update, and even then I'll do a Google search first. It's saved me a few reinstalls.
In the case of FF4, I was thinking of installing it, but I'm holding back. Sounds like a 4.1 isn't too far away if these complaints are widespead. At least it's free. I nearly went out and bought Office 2011 for Mac until I found out the Home edition (which is several hundred dollars less than the "Pro" version) doesn't include the Outlook/Entourage e-mail program - you need the more expensive version for that. Nuts to that.
Alex
Biggest lesson I've learned as a computer user - and it took me much longer to learn it than it should have - is to not jump when automatic update (Windows and MacOS both have them) says you must install something right away. Unless it's a "super critical, your computer will explode if it's not updated" update, and even then I'll do a Google search first. It's saved me a few reinstalls.
In the case of FF4, I was thinking of installing it, but I'm holding back. Sounds like a 4.1 isn't too far away if these complaints are widespead. At least it's free. I nearly went out and bought Office 2011 for Mac until I found out the Home edition (which is several hundred dollars less than the "Pro" version) doesn't include the Outlook/Entourage e-mail program - you need the more expensive version for that. Nuts to that.
Alex
Sam McCord
Lieutenant Commander
How can you get it to the older look? I just updated the other day, and so far, I hate the new version, lol.
EDIT: Never mind... I just re-installed the previous version, lol.
My Firefox 4 experience sucks so far. It's been crashing repeatedly on the add-ons tab and neither Sync nor Xmarks is working right all of the sudden. Firefox 4 is IMHO NOT ready for "prime time" yet I'm sorry to say (and I've been an avid FF user for a long time). I hope that the developers get in and fix a few things.
As a former Chrome user (and former-former FF user), I have had any of these issues. o.0 With a few judicious addons, I have the UI exactly the way I like it, and I haven't seen any noticeable bugs.
Maybe it's because I did a fresh install, instead of updating it? *shrug*
Maybe it's because I did a fresh install, instead of updating it? *shrug*
Y'know, I had several crashes while I was testing Chrome last week.
I was using it to download multiple crossword puzzles from the NYT archive, because I heard it was faster.
I had it set to save to a specific directory so I didn't have to double-Enter and every so often it just up and crashed.
Can't remember the last time FFx3.yada.yada crashed.
I was using it to download multiple crossword puzzles from the NYT archive, because I heard it was faster.
I had it set to save to a specific directory so I didn't have to double-Enter and every so often it just up and crashed.
Can't remember the last time FFx3.yada.yada crashed.
Everytime I click on a link it redirects me. It is driving me insane.
I tried FF4 for a little while and I decided I didn't like it overall. It ran considerably slower that its predecessors and it follows in Mozilla's trend of bigger memory/process footprints every subsequent release. What was once a slim, streamlined and efficient browser has now gotten almost as bloated and over-engineered as Internet Exploder.
The non-relocatable refresh button pissed me off immediately and they removed the history drop-down option. Yeah, I know, you can right-click, but when software removes such a high-level of customization capability from the users' hands in favor of a "we know what you want better than you do" attitude is when I start to lose interest. It also took me way too long to figure out how to upgrade add-on's. That little "gear" button wasn't to intuitive to me. Reverted back to 3.16 today on my WinTel platform. A much better user interface design overall.
Not an epic fail with FF4, but certainly not a win, either. My overall grade: C-
Note to legacy PPC Mac users - Mozilla has stopped supporting the legacy G5's in FF4. I had to get TenFourFox which is an interesting non-Mozilla exact-replica build. Seems to work slightly better than the real thing, surprisingly. Either way, though, another big minus in my book for Mozilla not supporting the PPC's. Couldn't have been too difficult to do, considering how quickly someone else did it after the main initial release.
The non-relocatable refresh button pissed me off immediately and they removed the history drop-down option. Yeah, I know, you can right-click, but when software removes such a high-level of customization capability from the users' hands in favor of a "we know what you want better than you do" attitude is when I start to lose interest. It also took me way too long to figure out how to upgrade add-on's. That little "gear" button wasn't to intuitive to me. Reverted back to 3.16 today on my WinTel platform. A much better user interface design overall.
Not an epic fail with FF4, but certainly not a win, either. My overall grade: C-
Note to legacy PPC Mac users - Mozilla has stopped supporting the legacy G5's in FF4. I had to get TenFourFox which is an interesting non-Mozilla exact-replica build. Seems to work slightly better than the real thing, surprisingly. Either way, though, another big minus in my book for Mozilla not supporting the PPC's. Couldn't have been too difficult to do, considering how quickly someone else did it after the main initial release.
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I was annoyed about the reload button location, but as it turns out you can move it back to where it was:
- Firefox button (orange, upper-left corner) ===> Options ===> Toolbar Layout.
- Drag & drop the Reload button to the left side of the address bar
- Click Done.
- Firefox button (orange, upper-left corner) ===> Options ===> Toolbar Layout.
- Drag & drop the Reload button to the left side of the address bar
- Click Done.
AH! Very cool. Thank you for that. But that actually also adds to my frustration over the interface design in this new release. Much like every major release with Microsoft Office, they change all the menus around so that it makes it virtually impossible to find anything you need to customize an app. Why break what is familiar and change just for the sake of change and not anything else?
-sigh- Guess I'm going to have to find a new browser soon if they don't fix things. I refuse to use either Chrome or Safari. Been hearing some good things about Opera lately. Maybe that...
-sigh- Guess I'm going to have to find a new browser soon if they don't fix things. I refuse to use either Chrome or Safari. Been hearing some good things about Opera lately. Maybe that...
What do you have against Chrome?
